Signature /= footer
Resist
MAGA voters couldn’t identify a pronoun in high school. How are they supposed to figure it out now?
They could read the Bible: I am he
Isn’t that protected speech?
I always thought “uh, this thing with the pronouns in email signatures is just woke Nonsens, everyone knows what gender I am and want to be seen as” (and i still don’t really get neo-pronouns, to be frank), but I now work in a very international environment, and I am so glad if people give me their pronouns, because I can’t always tell which gender an Indian or Chinese name is. Honestly, it’s just smart to add them and they just save everyone a lot of time/confusion.
I thought the same thing as well.
I have a few trans friends and neighbors who told me that basically when they came out and tried to change gender, no one would acknowledge their new identity. So it’s a subtle way to inform other people.
Also, I have met more than a few people whom I had no idea of their gender. So it’s actually great to read that pronoun because I don’t like playing guessing games.
Small government regulating pronouns in worker’s email signatures.
Regulations For Thee but Not for Me
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2069436850145993
50 States, 50 Protests, 1day
Feb 5 @ your downtown.
Pass the word!
Sucks for anyone named Jamie or Alex. Trump is acting like he won in a landslide, even though he wasn’t even able to scrape together a majority of votes; more people voted against him than for him.
Or Kim!
I thought he actually got the majority of voters this time?
He got a plurality of the voting population, not quite over 50% though.
Sadly it’s a mandate until people actually start pushing back.
even though he wasn’t even able to scrape together a majority of votes; more people voted against him than for him.
What makes you think he cares, or that it makes any difference? He’s steamrolling ahead regardless and most of people in his way seem much happier to bend their knee than to resist in any meaningful way.
There’s good reason we say you can’t vote fascism away.
And yet again, the Tangerine Palpatine is focusing on stupid shit.
Farmers unable to gather their harvest? The working and middle classes being squeezed into oblivion? Grocery prices skyrocketing? Unknown drones taunting our military bases? Military helicopters colliding with commercial jets?
Nah, none of that stuff matters! Instead we just focus on fucking pronouns in emails!
What an absolute fucking joke.
Edit: fixed a typo.
Nah, none of that stuff matters!
No, not to him, that’s the point.
How much more deliberate in their oppressing and exploiting do those in power need to be before people stop expecting any different?
They’re there to serve themselves, not society
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Isn’t president just a regular noun?
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Thanks for the hot tip!
Not being a smarmy goit is cool
Go for it
So…so fragile
This is so stupid. I know plenty of cishet people who include their pronouns in their sig because they have a gender neutral name.
Or, in my case, for solidarity and normalizing it.
Yes, this is why they care. It’s part of woke ideology.
is the woke ideology in the room with us now?
Of course it’s daft to mandate what people can and can’t put in their email footers but I don’t get why people put pronouns in footers.
I’m cis male and he/him. Others can call refer to me as it/them or she/her if they wish.
I dislike bananas but I don’t put that in my email footer.
I haven’t seen it in a while anyway. I thought it was a fad from the late 10s
Privilege. Privilege is the reason you don’t understand.
Ok, me and everyone else who doesn’t publish their preference for bananas in their footer I guess.
Is your dislike of bananas an important part of your identity, both personally and how you are treated by society at large? Does making it known that you dislike bananas either verbally or through your appearance lead to a realistic possibility of facing abuse and opression, not limited to potential loss of livelihood or life?
If not, perhaps, you can see how the two things aren’t very comparable.
No, but how people refer to me in the third person is also not an important part of my identity.
Someone’s choice of the pronoun to assign to me says more about them and the nature of our relationship than it says about my identity.
I know a guy who saw skin tone bandages at a school and lost his mind. He ranted about it for days. People I know still refer to him as the “skin tone bandage guy”
Believe it or not, there are a number people who are “upset at pronouns in email guys” who lose their minds over this and its actually a public service to identify people with anger issues before they do real harm
This is why those policies exist. If everyone has their pronouns in their bio/email, the people with uncontrolled anger issues don’t have clear targets.
Assuming everyone with an opinion contrary to your own has uncontrolled anger issues is probably a pathology. Maybe get that looked at.
There’s no assumptions. The guy was red faced and ranting for days over. Because he saw bandaids marketed at diversity.
“I don’t care about misgendering” says person of the always assumed gender.
I think that’s kind of reductive honestly.
Like most people I try not to be an ass, and generally try to get through the day without offending anyone.
If I know someone well enough to care about their gender obviously I’d do my best not to misgender them.
OTOH if I’m emailing customer support to ask where my order is I just couldn’t care less what the person’s gender is.
A persons right to identity is not dependant on how much you care about the interaction, or any other factor. Say you have to escalate the customer support ticket, and you want to say “your colleague X was helping me. He said X was not possible blah blah” this is easier if those pronouns have been visible to you, you don’t have to make an assumption or default to gender neutral pronouns which may not be appropriate depending on the individual.
I’m not imposing of anyones right to identity and frankly to suggest otherwise in any professional context would just be silly.
Like a great many people I send and receive emails all day, corresponding with people from all sorts of organisations.
An infinitesimal portion of people include pronouns in footers, and I suspect the people who do are cisgender with vanilla pronouns.
I get that I’m the only one here being blunt about it, and I’m happy to take the downvotes, but honestly how does anyone navigate the day to day without imposing on people’s “right to identity” if no one is announcing their pronouns in their email footers?
The obvious answer is, very few people care very much about this.
Why would you assume that the people who have their pronouns on display are cisgender? That’s baffling
Trans people, like myself, put their pronouns on display so that they can avoid being misgendered in the exact way I’ve described to you.
The only cis people, I’d imagine, who bother to do the same are people who are doing it in allyship with trans folk.
Very few people care very much about this
Sure, okay, yeah. And the people who do care, put their pronouns there for you to respect.
Quite frankly, if an infinitesimal set of your emails even include pronouns in the footer to begin with, why is it such a bugbear for you?
That’s why I do it too!
That is why I do it three!
My name tag at work also has my pronouns on it.
Ty for being an ally, king.
<3
Trump and all his legions are unwiped assholes.
The communist leader of northern Venezuela is mandating how to conduct your business, how to write, how to speak.
Party of small government, rule of law and free markets.
Mexican here. We’re Northern Venezuela. We’ll let you have Northern Cuba.
Finally. Something that will bring down the cost of groceries…
Don’t you know that adding your pronouns to an email costs an entire 6-10 bytes? There are children starving in Africa and you’re wasting your bytes on pronouns! Shame on you.
And, the tariffs will bring them up
Try stopping eating animals. Huge cut in groceries
Legal disclaimers often have pronouns, right?
“The information contained in this email message is intended only for the personal use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not an intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please immediately notify me by replying to this message and then delete this email from your system.”
Malicious compliance it and replace all of the pronouns: “The information contained in this email message is intended only for the personal use of the recipient(s) named above. If the recipient is not an intended recipient of this email, the recipient is hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If the recipient received this email in error, please immediately notify John Doe by replying to this message and then delete this email from the recipient’s system.”
Fuck 'em. I’m sure with a bit of work they could come up with some stuff that renders it nearly unreadable.
Um, I didn’t see where it said to replace pronouns with anything, only to remove them. So the correct verbiage would clearly be:
The information contained in this email message is intended only for the personal use of the recipient(s) named above. If are not an intended recipient of this email, are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If received this email in error, please immediately notify by replying to this message and then delete this email from system.
What about the people who often have DDoD, OCIS, NCIS, CCNA, CCNP, A+, Ph.D, MA, MBA, BA, BS, K12, SCRUMDIDDLYUMPTIOUS after their names? Can we get rid of title abuse then never focus on pronouns?
Man, I spent a lot of money and time for my post-nominals, I don’t care if they’re 100% irrelevant to what I do, they’re getting used in every god damn email.
(Helps that I only have one, though. And to be clear, I am happy to vehemently argue this point for months/years to steal focus from pronouns).
App can go except for “SCRUMDIDDLYUMPTIOUS”. Because that one is SCRUMDIDDLYUMPTIOUS!
Mr,Mrs, Miss, JR, the III is dumb as fuck also.
snrk A+… i always get a giggle when somebody actually includes that one
