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This is so stupid. I know plenty of cishet people who include their pronouns in their sig because they have a gender neutral name.
Or, in my case, for solidarity and normalizing it.
Ty for being an ally, king.
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That’s why I do it too!
That is why I do it three!
My name tag at work also has my pronouns on it.
Yes, this is why they care. It’s part of woke ideology.
is the woke ideology in the room with us now?
Of course it’s daft to mandate what people can and can’t put in their email footers but I don’t get why people put pronouns in footers.
I’m cis male and he/him. Others can call refer to me as it/them or she/her if they wish.
I dislike bananas but I don’t put that in my email footer.
I haven’t seen it in a while anyway. I thought it was a fad from the late 10s
Privilege. Privilege is the reason you don’t understand.
Ok, me and everyone else who doesn’t publish their preference for bananas in their footer I guess.
Is your dislike of bananas an important part of your identity, both personally and how you are treated by society at large? Does making it known that you dislike bananas either verbally or through your appearance lead to a realistic possibility of facing abuse and opression, not limited to potential loss of livelihood or life?
If not, perhaps, you can see how the two things aren’t very comparable.
No, but how people refer to me in the third person is also not an important part of my identity.
Someone’s choice of the pronoun to assign to me says more about them and the nature of our relationship than it says about my identity.
I know a guy who saw skin tone bandages at a school and lost his mind. He ranted about it for days. People I know still refer to him as the “skin tone bandage guy”
Believe it or not, there are a number people who are “upset at pronouns in email guys” who lose their minds over this and its actually a public service to identify people with anger issues before they do real harm
This is why those policies exist. If everyone has their pronouns in their bio/email, the people with uncontrolled anger issues don’t have clear targets.
Assuming everyone with an opinion contrary to your own has uncontrolled anger issues is probably a pathology. Maybe get that looked at.
There’s no assumptions. The guy was red faced and ranting for days over. Because he saw bandaids marketed at diversity.
“I don’t care about misgendering” says person of the always assumed gender.
I think that’s kind of reductive honestly.
Like most people I try not to be an ass, and generally try to get through the day without offending anyone.
If I know someone well enough to care about their gender obviously I’d do my best not to misgender them.
OTOH if I’m emailing customer support to ask where my order is I just couldn’t care less what the person’s gender is.
A persons right to identity is not dependant on how much you care about the interaction, or any other factor. Say you have to escalate the customer support ticket, and you want to say “your colleague X was helping me. He said X was not possible blah blah” this is easier if those pronouns have been visible to you, you don’t have to make an assumption or default to gender neutral pronouns which may not be appropriate depending on the individual.
I’m not imposing of anyones right to identity and frankly to suggest otherwise in any professional context would just be silly.
Like a great many people I send and receive emails all day, corresponding with people from all sorts of organisations.
An infinitesimal portion of people include pronouns in footers, and I suspect the people who do are cisgender with vanilla pronouns.
I get that I’m the only one here being blunt about it, and I’m happy to take the downvotes, but honestly how does anyone navigate the day to day without imposing on people’s “right to identity” if no one is announcing their pronouns in their email footers?
The obvious answer is, very few people care very much about this.
Why would you assume that the people who have their pronouns on display are cisgender? That’s baffling
Trans people, like myself, put their pronouns on display so that they can avoid being misgendered in the exact way I’ve described to you.
The only cis people, I’d imagine, who bother to do the same are people who are doing it in allyship with trans folk.
Very few people care very much about this
Sure, okay, yeah. And the people who do care, put their pronouns there for you to respect.
Quite frankly, if an infinitesimal set of your emails even include pronouns in the footer to begin with, why is it such a bugbear for you?
Small government regulating pronouns in worker’s email signatures.
Regulations For Thee but Not for Me
And yet again, the Tangerine Palpatine is focusing on stupid shit.
Farmers unable to gather their harvest? The working and middle classes being squeezed into oblivion? Grocery prices skyrocketing? Unknown drones taunting our military bases? Military helicopters colliding with commercial jets?
Nah, none of that stuff matters! Instead we just focus on fucking pronouns in emails!
What an absolute fucking joke.
Edit: fixed a typo.
Nah, none of that stuff matters!
No, not to him, that’s the point.
How much more deliberate in their oppressing and exploiting do those in power need to be before people stop expecting any different?
They’re there to serve themselves, not society
The communist leader of northern Venezuela is mandating how to conduct your business, how to write, how to speak.
Party of small government, rule of law and free markets.
Mexican here. We’re Northern Venezuela. We’ll let you have Northern Cuba.
What about the people who often have DDoD, OCIS, NCIS, CCNA, CCNP, A+, Ph.D, MA, MBA, BA, BS, K12, SCRUMDIDDLYUMPTIOUS after their names? Can we get rid of title abuse then never focus on pronouns?
Man, I spent a lot of money and time for my post-nominals, I don’t care if they’re 100% irrelevant to what I do, they’re getting used in every god damn email.
(Helps that I only have one, though. And to be clear, I am happy to vehemently argue this point for months/years to steal focus from pronouns).
Mr,Mrs, Miss, JR, the III is dumb as fuck also.
snrk A+… i always get a giggle when somebody actually includes that one
App can go except for “SCRUMDIDDLYUMPTIOUS”. Because that one is SCRUMDIDDLYUMPTIOUS!
So…so fragile
All fascists need to take dirt naps
Does that include Mr. Mrs. and other gendered titles?
Of course not, those are heteronormative.
That’s not a pronoun, but it could function as a replacement to skirt this ruling, assuming it doesn’t include gendered honorifics.
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that’s not so much a joke as it is a genuinely good idea
Jesus fucking christ.
This would make a great pronoun or title attached to your name. Sign off every email with …
John Doe
Jesus Fucking ChristI sometimes wish I were petty enough to legally change my last name to be she-her (i don’t think that slashes are allowed?l
(They / Them)
I’ve never done this, but this would make me start doing it
I, too, dislike being employed.
But seriously most people will not risk their livelihood for it. It is almost guaranteed to end up in court like so many other of Trump’s bullshit policies.
They’re getting fired eventually anyway, they had pronouns in their sig in the first place.
Got a source for that, or are you making up your own inflamatory “facts” again?
…Trump offered all federal employees 7 months salary to quit. He signed two executive orders today to unilaterally dissolve some federal agencies.
You logically cannot believe hes not in his night of long knives period. Someone with the care to put pronouns in their work communication isn’t loyal to Trump, and thus logically wouldn’t survive the firing and agency shutdowns Trump is currently actively doing.
I get you disliked China and Chinese people but are you really letting that poison your logic to the point you’re ignoring reality. Is your insistence that Chinese people are wrong in all things worth not paying attention to the half dozen executive orders a day which is actively getting the US government?
So no. Just more lies and distortions. Trump is plenty bad without making up lies.
My antipathy is towards those who, like you, consistently advocate for the authoritarian CCP, whilst also trying to incite people against their own governments.
I quite literally lied about nothing. I’m sorry you don’t have access to any mainstream news sites in the US, or any commentators for us news.
Still no source though. Cool.
I’ll start requesting people to use thee/thou soon.
Of course. How else will we prevent future aviation disasters?
And lower the price of eggs
Eggs costing a lot is a good thing. Fossil fuels too. Switch to something better for the climate
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Isn’t president just a regular noun?
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Thanks for the hot tip!
Not being a smarmy goit is cool
Go for it
Doesn’t go far enough, remove pronouns from the email body too.
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You used it
Someone’s about to get fired…
Don’t think whom is a pronoun, is it?
Sucks for anyone named Jamie or Alex. Trump is acting like he won in a landslide, even though he wasn’t even able to scrape together a majority of votes; more people voted against him than for him.
Sadly it’s a mandate until people actually start pushing back.
I thought he actually got the majority of voters this time?
He got a plurality of the voting population, not quite over 50% though.
Or Kim!
even though he wasn’t even able to scrape together a majority of votes; more people voted against him than for him.
What makes you think he cares, or that it makes any difference? He’s steamrolling ahead regardless and most of people in his way seem much happier to bend their knee than to resist in any meaningful way.
There’s good reason we say you can’t vote fascism away.
MAGA voters couldn’t identify a pronoun in high school. How are they supposed to figure it out now?
They could read the Bible: I am he
