ASHEVILLE, North Carolina, Jan 24 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday said he would sign an executive order to begin the process of fundamentally overhauling or eliminating the Federal Emergency Management Agency. “FEMA has turned out to be a disaster … I think we recommend that FEMA go away,” he said during a tour of North Carolina to see damage done by Hurricane Helene last year.
So trump thinks that a president is king and that royal decrees (executive orders) can just do whatever the hell he wants, bypassing senate and all, ignoring existing law
It’s not how that works, it’s not how anything works, but for some weird reason the Senate just goes with it and for existing law, well, so far judges are striking down all his shit but something tells me that the supre court will just say with the first trial that cheeto is always right and that will be it.
That is how it works as long as no one does anything to stop it.
Same as how Trump is not eligible to be President by the constitution, but that didn’t stop him.
It’s very demonstrably how that works in the context of recent US history. It shouldn’t, but it does.
In other words: It is exactly how it works.
The south hurt itself in its confusion.
I think you misunderstand his goal here. This won’t stop him from giving aid to the people/states who help him. This will only stop FEMA helping everyone unconditionally. He isn’t trying to stop aid. He’s trying to stop aid without strings attached. This is a power play.
States would need to create an emergency bureaucracy redundant to each other state. California or Texas could do it but good luck South Dakota.
Plus read about how he specifically didn’t want emergency response people ready to jump in and help, just money. Money to be allocated on personal choice, not need, to the governor. Money for the governor to allocate by personal choice, not need, to communities and companies. This is about buying favors all the way down.
…again
Goodbye New Orleans, Miami, Jacksonville, Virginia Beach, all those Florida cities that are underwater from hurricane surge every year now, etc
Asheville North Carolina received 63 million in FEMA aid just a few months ago to help recover from hurricane season. He lied trying to say they didn’t have the money and now he’s making that the case.
They say they have a plan to give money directly to the states instead. So far nobody has seen or heard this plan.
Even if such a plan exists, that still sounds like they’re taking a stockpile of vehicles and personnel and getting rid of it all only to be unprepared for all future disasters.
The plan is to give money to states that kiss trump’s ass, and none for the blue states or cities that don’t.
All those hurricane victims that complained about “illegals” getting some FEMA (but it wasn’t FEMA money, not that they cared) money got their wish. They won’t get any more FEMA money. Maybe nobody else will, either.
Florida’s about to be unaffordable for millions of Americans. FEMA’s NFIP program had been disproportionately keeping cost of flood insurance low for millions of people in hurricane/flood regions along the Gulf coast, but now the market alone will dictate rates if FEMA is taken out of the picture.
now the market alone will dictate rates if FEMA is taken out of the picture
Nah, Florida will just pass a law making it illegal for insurers to leave the state. Surely that will work!
They’d save more effort by making it illegal for hurricanes to hit Florida. Borrow Trump’s marker and make them hit Alabama instead.
Don’t worry. They’ll make sure handouts to red states won’t stop. It’s only blue states that’ll get fucked.
“But my egg prices” - morons about to have a very bad 2025 Atlantic hurricane season.
We all warned you this would happen. This move was plainly outlined in Project 2025. Nobody tricked you, you’re just fucking morons.
B b but Trump claimed he never heard of project 2025. He wouldn’t just lie to the American people right?
Accusing gentle Mr. Trump of a misdeed?
I’m sorry but it’s either just Trump or Mrs. Trump now. Respect the law.
Mrs. Trump
At least now we know who’s the bottom.
Absolutely not, I love Trump mister TSS officer
HAHA SUCKS TO BE YOU — any red state that needs FEMA money… Florida, Texas, Louisiana, basically any Gulf of MEXICO state. Eat poop and choke.
So maybe that - and trump can also withhold money from states that don’t kiss his ass. Think of it this way…if people are hit hard by some disaster and the state can only do so much, trump can just say your governor sucks, get rid of him/her and I’ll see that you get money from the fed. Trump puts a favored talibangelical candidate forward, and sees what happens.
He’s already trying this with California, telling them they need to pass restrictive voting laws in exchange for fire aid.
Okay I feel what you’re saying, but also know that not every person in those states is not a trump loving sycophant.
I live in a blue island in Alabama and this is very disheartening news, most of my family and friends are bluer than blue. So I’d appreciate if everyone on the left didn’t look at red states the exact same way people on the right look at red states.
I feel for you, I promise. But you can leave Alabama at any time. If you want to talk about how you can make that happen, I’d love to help you brainstorm.
It’s not actually that easy to move states. It’s expensive and you’re leaving your entire network behind.
I’m aware. But at this point, they aren’t flipping blue. I get that it’s not something people want to think about, but shit is not going to stop hitting the fan for a long while.
I also think the urgency depends on whether or not a person is in a threatened group. Trans people, for example, need to have been packed and ready on Inauguration Day.
Complain about state being red. Tell blue people to leave, making it even redder. profit???
Tell people to stay and suffer??
These budget cuts are getting weird.
It’s almost like we are losing the cold war in real time.
As has been Russia’s playbook since at least the late 90’s. It’s just now all coming to head
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Yeah, they’re not cutting subsidies to businesses, rolling back tax breaks, or anything that affects the deep pockets. Nope. They’re cutting stuff that helps people at home and abroad. Cut FEMA here, cut foreign aid. Eliminating housing and food help.
I mean, they kind of said they were going to take this tack pretty clearly
Sure. But the people that needed to understand that weren’t listening.
Leopards ate my face is a thing for a reason
Selectively listening I think
This is money that will just stay with the states. For the best for places like California and Washington. For the worst for places like Florida.
Which is to say that this is terrible, but if states aren’t giving money to FEMA, the money will stay there.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t FEMA funded out of the Federal budget? Meaning if they cut FEMA, that money will just go elsewhere, not “just stay with the states”.
EDIT added clarification.
‘elsewhere’ as in tax breaks for the wealthy and funneled to lord diaper’s designated recipients.
Hmm, I’ll have to look into it. Not sure.
Yes, but it’s blue states that contribute the most and red states that take the most. Without the federal government distributing these tax dollars, red states won’t be able to afford disaster recovery.
florida, louisana, and texas. far and away the largest recipients of fema dollars over the last decade.
https://www.axios.com/2024/10/08/fema-direct-payments-state-recipients
I’m willing to bet that the “problem” with FEMA is that, due to its vital role in dealing with emergencies, it has particularly stringent safeguards in place to prevent it becoming a partisan tool. And since Trump’s stated goal is to turn the entirety of the federal government into a partisan tool, it has to go.
Nah, it’s just really hard to steal from it without people noticing.
How hard can it be? They have to buy supplies and resources somewhere. And in an emergency no one is looking where you get stuff, from who, or how much. I’m surprised it isn’t ripe for abuse…
Ironically, the Republicans installed a lot of oversight against single source contracting. You can do it but it’s very obvious. So privatizing the entire thing makes it easier to grift.
Used to be that easy. Then Bush 2 and his fleet of RVs happened.
I would bet it was as stupid as someone (or even naturally by group via social media) inventing a narrative during the Biden administration because everything he does is evil. Then the destruction of the agency being the natural conclusion of said narrative. It wins points for Trump since people living in that reality see this as a win over evil.
Then later, when it all blows up, likely during the next hurricane, they can just figure someone else to blame. Everything is probably purely off the cuff.
It’s what con men do. Just roll with everything and keep it up for as long as they can. It’s worked for Trump his entire life.
Maybe there are some buddies of the trump crime family that would be happy to privatize aid to disaster victims for a nice fee, and trump would like to withhold or bestow aid on States and individual officials that kiss his ass. So you bet the Left Coast won’t be getting any, but Mar a Lago will get a new roof every year.
The amount of americans this will kill would demand retaliation if putin had used kinetic warfare instead.
He’s going to form the department of paper towel throwing
Tornado, hurricane, and fire seasons, here we go! Jippy kayey! Modafakas!
How long until we start hearing about politicians having legitimate discussions about secession? The whole point of the Union is to help each other out.
Here in Michigan I am all for it. Fuck these stupid ass southern morons, I don’t want to share anything with them let alone a country. Fuck off and no you can’t have our water, eat shit redneck.
California already is having those discussions. They’re collecting required signatures.
That’s just normal CA ballot measure BS. It’s the actual senators and reps that I’m wondering about.
Putin wins
I know this is stretching it, but given how stupid of a timeline we’re in, I have to allow for the possibility that FEMA is being disbanded because CA Gov. Newsom is taller than Trump.
California apparently is in the news regarding secession again. But we have to also consider that it’s BS designed to create more divisiveness.
It’s established what happens should a state decide to secede. There was a war fought over it. It’s not worth speculating about unless it’s happening.
