This demographic I’m not popular with shouldn’t be allowed to vote
Sounds like the terrorist GOP
I kind of agree. 16 is way too young to legally drive, 18 is way too young to be able to join the military, 60-whatever is way too old for retirement, etc.
In a perfect world, I would agree. But in this Mephisto timeline, we gotta work with what we got.
Shit, even Mephisto would be like “Y’all too fucked up for me. I’mma bounce.”
Yeah, well I feel 37 is too young to run for president. Maybe he should pause his campaign.
Anyone over the age of retirement shouldn’t be able to run for any publ office.
I’d rather go the other way and restrict voting to folks under 70. At least 18 year olds are going to have to live with the consequences.
Disagree. I understand where you’re coming from but it’s short sighted to write off everyone over 70.
I understand where you’re coming from
Not if you thought I was in any way serious.
Misleading headline. What it should say is:
GOP Contender Vivek Ramaswamy Thinks Voting is A Privilege to be Earned
And that is far, far scarier.
The GOP is too corrupt to breathe our air.
Then make sure they pay zero taxes of any kind please.
Can go die in a war at 18, but can’t buy a gun until you’re 21
Can’t drink beer until you’re 21, but can vote in general elections at 18
We need to just pick one and go with it, either 18 or 21
I was in a US history class in high school when the teacher said that the drinking age used to be 18, and the voting age used to be 21, but they switched places. He then asked “Why?” And started calling on random students.
When I got picked, my answer was “Fewer drunk voters?”
But more uneducated voters
Education isn’t a requirement to vote, so doesn’t make sense to play a part in age restricting voting. A now-30 year old who dropped out of high school at a young age is allowed to vote.
He likely doesn’ he just know what the GOP wants to hear.
the choices some folks make I’m not sure if 30 is too young to vote
Should anyone at all be allowed to vote is what I’m thinking…
In a perfect world society wouldn’t let anyone reach adulthood without a well rounded education to bolster them against the kind of fear based tricks the Republicans use. This is why the Republicans have been trying to dismantle public education every chance they get and cut assistance programs. Keep the people dumb, poor, and tired and they’re easier to manipulate.
If you’re cool with sending an 18 year old to battle, you should be cool with letting them vote
Also can we please just let them have a beer, too?
If I’m going to be forced to die in a desert for some rich dude profit margin I’m going to do whatever the fuck I want
Service guarantees citizenship.
**I would like to know more. **
No no, if we let them vote they might vote for people who want to not send 18 year olds to war
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Yeah, while I don’t want to restrict anyone’s voting, any logic against younger people voting is not nearly as strong as logic against older people voting. It’s not just that they won’t be a part of the world for as long (that said, it’s entirely possible a 70 year old gets another 2 decades, so I don’t think that’s necessarily compelling reasoning). Mental decline is also an issue and arguably more relevant.
The alt right doesn’t like young voters because they claim they’re too immature. But senility is very similar on the opposite end of the spectrum. Senile voters can be simply disconnected from reality and thus unable to make good choices.
That said, you can’t just draw an age limit and expect that to cover senility, since one person can be 65 and senile while another is 90 and of sound mind. So I don’t think we should be restricting voting on either side of the age range (though we should let people as young as 16 vote – we already trust them to do dangerous things like drive).
Let’s call this what it is: a call to repeal the 26th amendment
The party of forced birth for child rape victims says what?
Wasn’t there this whole defining thing for America? Something about taxation without representation, right? So the 18 year olds have to pay taxes on the wages they earn by working and therefore should be able to vote. The retired, however…
The idea that the right to vote is tied to your tax contributions is very flawed.
Paying taxes without the right to vote is absolutely ridiculous (so either link the right to vote to the age you’re allowed to work, or tax exempt any work done under the voting age), but the inverse is ridiculous as well. People, above the voting age, that don’t pay any taxes for whatever reason, should not have their voting rights stripped. This reasoning gets dangerously close to a plural voting system, where you get multiple votes if you’re rich enough.
If you want to disenfranchise retired people, use some other reasoning (like decline in cognitive abilities), not because they are no longer actively paying taxes.
Note that I am not in favour of disenfranchising anyone. Keep the lower limit for voting age, or even reduce it, and no upper limit. Also make voting as accessible as possible.
Alas, I’ll have to learn to indicate the right level of cynicism more explicitly on here.
As cynical but slightly more in earnest: if voting rights were only given to those who can prove basic reasoning abilities, it might actually make a difference. Since there is no reliable way to prevent authorities from abusing such a criterium, I see no other option than to have no restrictions on any generic criterium. Perhapa a voting obligation would be more effective.
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Students - all non-wage-earners - shouldn’t be able to vote by your logic?
Plenty of high schoolers and college students have jobs. Many before the age of 18.
Students - all non-wage-earners - shouldn’t be able to vote by your logic?
I don’t know how you could possibly derive that conclusion from what they said, unless you lack a very basic understanding of how to interpret logical statements.
