I was expecting a generic alien invasion movie, and I was pleasantly surprised
I watched it for the first time last year without knowing anything about it and, as someone who loves to nerd out about anything linguistics related (am translator, for context), I cannot describe how gleeful I was that such subjects had center focus in a big blockbuster like that. Obviously the other aspects of the movie were amazing as well and the story got me very emotional by the end, but I will never shut up about how interesting and important that translation/communication aspect of the movie was.
The world is shocked to discover that Terry’s Chocolate Oranges are actually seed pods for intelligent extra terrestrial life.
It’s not Terry’s, it’s Extraterrestrials.
It’s based on a short story called “Story of Your Life” by Ted Chiang. He’s published only eighteen stories in his career (starting in 1990), nothing longer than a novella and mostly short stories. Despite that they’ve won him four Hugos, four Nebulas, and six Locus Awards. He’s worth reading, is what I’m trying to say.
I wonder if Ted Chiang was inspired by Vonnegut’s Slaughterhouse-Five
He’s written some “Notes” on the story when it was printed in his first short story collection and said that it has the same theme but that he wasn’t inspired by it directly. The roots were Paul Linke’s play “Time Flies When You’re Alive” and the principle of least time in optics – if you treat light as a ray, it has to know its future destination in order to know the path with the shortest time it will take to get there (though not if it’s a wave). Then there’s a bunch of diagrams and discussions about the principle’s implications for free will that will stretch your brain. It’s pretty fun.
Thanks for the reading recommendation!
The short story was OK but this is one of the few cases where the movie did it better, added flavor to it that wasn’t in the book but carries the emotional hit farther.
The short stories in that book felt very “woah dude” to me, in the end I finished it but didn’t like it all that much. I’ve been downvoted for this opinion before, but oh well.
I put him up there with Asimov, Clarke, and Heinlein, easily.
That’s exactly what I was going to say. His prose is breathtaking.
Well that’s got me interested then
I will say I read the short story and it made me love the movie even more. It rare for me to say the movie was better than they book and the books was great as well.
Ya know I have to say I feel nearly the same about Dune. I haven’t gotten to the the later books but the first 2 have made me love the movies more. Not that I love the the books any less though. There is very little nuance lost in the movies and the changes that are made I can understand from a film making point of view. I guess what I mean to say is I appreciate the differences and it makes me like both more rather thank either any less.
Don’t bother with the rest of the books unless you’re into heavy philosophy. The new movies are pleasantly close to the books which made me love them as well
Yeah Denis Villeneuve is a wonderful story teller. The book gives great context to what the characters are thinking and that was where Lynch failed trying to put that on screen when it wasn’t needed for the medium.
If you haven’t read The Merchant and the Alchemists Gate by Ted Chiang I can’t recommend it enough. Here’s a PDF Link
It’s lesser known than his big hits like Exhalation, but I think it’s phenomenal.
Oh, I’ve read all of his stuff! It’s a red letter day for me when a new story is published. None since 2019, though.
My odd choice of his would be Seventy-Two Letters. I find him most interesting when he follows through in the consequences of an old disproven scientific theory or theological explanation of the universe, and he manages to fit two of them in here.
I read the story and found it very entertaining. I’m not sure what impact it had on me, but it made me marvel at the idea of the inevitability of fate and how often our suffering and regrets of the past are the reason we’re regarded so highly by others.
How did it strike you?
It’s also featured on a two-part episode of LeVar Burton Reads.
I couldn’t agree more. I read them quite some time ago, and still find myself having philosophical discussions about them somewhat often today. Most are really thought provoking in a non-judgmental way.
I know that I enjoyed this movie but I don’t remember it at all. Yay, I get to watch it again like it’s new.
Me rewatching a movie:
“Oh yeah, I remember this part…”
“Oh yeah, I remember this part…”
The rule is simple: if uts by Denis Villeneuve, YOU WATCH IT
B E A N
space bean
Now you have to watch it again. Seriously
I just did it.
Yeah, genuinely one of my favourite original sci-fi movies I’ve watched in the last decade. I did a linguistics course in high school so just really loved that side of it. It also really felt like they did a great job building the tension and making it feel like there were high stakes to her work.
It’s not original, though it expands on Ted Chiang’s short story “Story of Your Life”.
I suppose you are going to tell everyone that Dune was based on a book the next time someone compliments the pacing and direction of that movie?
The poster art for Arrival says it’s based on a story by Ted Chiang, it isn’t some secret nobody knows but you.
What does being original or not have anything to do with what the original commenter wrote? MOST movies are based on previously existing stories. They were focusing on the movie. If you read the book and want to show everyone how much more you know than they do, it would be more impressive if you had said “i read the story the movie was based on, and comparatively, <your opinion here>”. It might have even made for an interesting and productive comment.
Usually when the word “original” is used in the context of media, it means it’s a new idea/concept/story, in opposition to an “'adaptation” from another media (like a movie to a videogame, or a book to a movie). This movie is an adaptation.
I’m not criticizing your opinion, as I really like the movie too (including pacing and direction). Only the terminology.
genuinely one of my favourite original sci-fi movies I’ve watched in the last decade
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Then I guess NO movie can be called original, because at a minimum they begin with a written screenplay, so that screenplay is the ORIGINAL work in pedanticland.
And here I thought the grammar police were bad.
A screenplay is part of (the process of making) a film. It’s not an independent work.
Watched it last week for the first time. Really enjoyed it
Genuinely one of the best movies of all time IMO
Really is a good view.
Yeah its one of my favorite movies
Definitely a top 20 in my book, one of my wife’s top 5. I also love the book, it’s very short story, you can probably read it in the time it’d take to watch the movie (I’m a slow reader and did it in a few hours), it doesn’t add too much, but it’s a bit of interesting mathematical philosophy which I found quite endearing.
Don’t remember much of this movie , but what I did see wasz very beautiful
Alien Linguistics. Love this movie
I don’t remember much about the movie, but isn’t it one of the movies where time gets wacky?
Almost
Spoiler
Memories are what get wacky. The main character (as well as the aliens who “arrive”) can remember the future as well as the past due to learning the alien language. It’s based on the possibly-not-linguistically-sound Sapir-Wharf hypothesis that says the language you speak influences the way you think. The aliens use a circular rather than linear writing system so they think of time in a non-linear way
