Summary

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau denounced Trump’s sudden 25% tariffs, warning they threaten American jobs and will inflate consumer costs.

He revealed that Trump refuses to take his calls and sharply criticized claims linking tariffs to illegal immigration and fentanyl crossing U.S. borders.

In retaliation, Canada and Mexico imposed matching tariffs, targeting crucial American exports like auto parts, agriculture, and red-state staples like famous Kentucky bourbon.

Trudeau warned American factories may shut, citing integrated supply chains.

  • Elaine Cortez
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    505 months ago

    Good.

    Imagine after less than two weeks in office, you’re threatening and blackmailing other nations into being annexed by you and thinking this makes you the good guy in this scenario.

    • @[email protected]
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      45 months ago

      Not any other nations, some of your closest allies and trade partners. It’s fucking bonkers…

    • Drusas
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      185 months ago

      I doubt he thinks he’s the good guy and I’m certain he doesn’t care.

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        5 months ago

        My impression is that he thinks morality is dumb, basically. He’s the protagonist of his own story, to the degree you’d expect from a raging narcissist, but not every story has a protagonist that’s good.

  • @[email protected]
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    225 months ago

    If Canada just stopped selling aluminum and steel to the US, it would heavily affect aerospace and military manufacturing.

    • @[email protected]
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      45 months ago

      Yeah during Trudeau’s speech the only thing I was thinking when he was listing all of Canada’s resources is, “are you trying to encourage a US invasion?!”

    • @[email protected]
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      75 months ago

      Potash and Canada exports a lot to the USA. This would affect the US agricultural sector.

      • @[email protected]
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        45 months ago

        Crank up the prices of 25-50% Potash too, its too short supply to get a different supplier and if they don’t use it the crops will fail. The US has worked our relationship carefully for decades to get some huge trade advantages from Canada, and Trump just blew it all up.

        USA has already lost more than they can ever gain.

  • Maple Engineer
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    715 months ago

    Here are some numbers to consider.

    The US sold $441 billion worth of goods and services to Canada in 2024.

    Canada sold $482 billion worth of goods and services to the US in 2024.

    The US has a populating of 334.9 million people.

    Canada has a population of 40.1 million people.

    Per capita, every American man, woman, and child spent $1,316.81 on Canadian goods and services.

    Candians spent $12,019. 95 on American good and services.

    Who isn’t pulling their weight in this trading relationship?

    This isn’t about illegal immigration and it isn’t about the 20 lbs of fentanyl that tried to cross the border from Canada.

    This is about the billionaire class raising taxes on the poor and raising prices for Americans.

    • @[email protected]
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      85 months ago

      That makes sense. And Congress is bought and just watching. Well, between calls to their brokers to buy!

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          Oh so this is just layperson’s math on the back of a napkin. Thanks for clarifying.

          Trump and his ilk are trying to spread the idea that the US doesn’t have to buy the $482 billion worth of goods ans services from Canada and its doing so essentially as a ‘favor’.

          Canada does not have the systems in place to sell to the rest of the world efficiently, especially oil. Which is part of why the Canadian economy is more dependent on the US than vice versa.

          It looks like ~20% of the $482 billion figure you’ve cited is oil which the US could reasonably procure from elsewhere, even domestically, if there was a will to do so. Especially considering that Western Canada Select is high in sulfur and needs more refinement, making it less valuable on the global market.

          • Maple Engineer
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            135 months ago

            Oh so this is just layperson’s math on the back of a napkin. Thanks for clarifying.

            Yes, I dumbed it down for the MAGA crowd and pedants on Lemmy.

      • Maple Engineer
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        35 months ago

        I wonder if this recent Redditfugee realizes that blocking on Lemmy doesn’t work the same way it does on Reddit? By blocking everyone he thinks is a “moron” he is taking himself out of the conversation, not them. Now we can talk about him all we want and he’ll never know. Of course he may just be trying to wrap himself in a comfort blanket of blocks to protect his fee fees.

  • Jyek
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    25 months ago

    I feel like a good countermeasure to tariffs would be to implement export tariffs. I’m not an economist but if you tax your own businesses exporting to the US and there are import fees on the other end as well, the importer gets absolutely screwed and will have to pass that along to the customer as well. Meaning a 25% tariff in the US could effectively be whatever price Canada wants it to be for the end consumer. Effectively turn the carrot into a stick.

    • @[email protected]
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      15 months ago

      And canadian bacon!

      I just watched it for the first time last week…

      I guess it was funnier in the 90s…

    • @[email protected]
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      55 months ago

      American alcohol is on the list of immediate tarrifs as well as orange juice, peanut butter, clothing, and cosmetics. There will be further tarrifs on dairy, beef, poultry, fruits and vegetables, steel, aluminum, cars, trucks, busses, and boats after a 21 day delay to give time for Canadian companies to adjust supply chains.

      • @[email protected]
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        05 months ago

        I was quite surprised to see coffee on the list. There’s only 1 state far enough south to grow coffee (Hawaii).
        That means they import the beans grown elsewhere for processing.

        It turns out that Folgers does its roasting and packaging in New Orleans. It’s unclear where the beans are from, but I’m sure it’s “everywhere”.

        To my friends in Canada, take this opportunity to upgrade from Folgers.

        • @[email protected]
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          15 months ago

          Costco has a great Colombian whole bean that they sail from Colombia to Quebec where it’s roasted and packaged. Cafe William’s Sailboat coffee. We love it. We’ll be buying it exclusively now!

      • MedicsOfAnarchy
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        15 months ago

        Coupled with the weather Florida has been having, “oranges from the United States” will probably no longer be a thing. They waited until Anita Bryant died. Coincidence? I think not. /s

  • @[email protected]
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    225 months ago

    There is nothing other countries can really do about this except impose tariffs in kind. When american inflation goes up I hope Americans put stickers on gas pumps and more eating “Trump did this”

    • @[email protected]
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      55 months ago

      Though Trump will most likely absurdly blame Biden & democrats somehow and MAGAs will dumbly eat it all.

      • @[email protected]
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        15 months ago

        If they make this year as shit as possible and it evens out next year they can say they saved the failing economy.

    • @[email protected]
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      15 months ago

      I want to make ones that say “YOU did this” to maybe MAYBE give the trump dummies/non voters a moment of self reflection.

    • @[email protected]
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      55 months ago

      I’ve considered making some for exactly this purpose. This biggest hurdle is I would feel bad vandalizing the pumps and forcing someone else to clean up after me.

      • @[email protected]
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        5 months ago

        Don’t feel bad for the gas companies. Also he put an exception on “energy”. That’s only getting 10%.

        • Troy
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          25 months ago

          He doesn’t want to hurt Alberta – they’re his future fifth column

        • @[email protected]
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          25 months ago

          I don’t feel bad for the companies; I feel for the poor bastard that has to scrape it off.

          • @[email protected]
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            75 months ago

            They can just take their sweet, sweet time to take them off, time they get paid for. Probably more relaxing too.

            I used to be a pump jockey, I personally wouldn’t have minded. Thats just my take of course.

    • @[email protected]
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      05 months ago

      Tariffs don’t work that way, putting the tariff up was stupid and putting a reactionary tariff up would also be stupid.

    • @[email protected]
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      15 months ago

      Canada could start ignoring American intellectual property rights, or shutting off power exports to places like NY.

  • @[email protected]
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    5 months ago

    So be it.

    I can’t wait for the layoffs at my UPS hub. I told them it was gonna happen before the election. His shit business tactics will lead to economic devastation and was poo pooed and hand waved away. Let the hammer fall. Maybe it will wake up people.

    • toomanypancakes
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      55 months ago

      It won’t stand a chance of waking anyone up unless we rub it in their stupid selfish faces at every opportunity and they can’t get a reprieve from learning about how stupid their fucking choices are. Make sure to tell the trumpists laid off “Your president!” on the way out.

  • Bakkoda
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    25 months ago

    The state of most manufacturing facilities is already abysmal. They barely need any help going under.