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It’s a fascist coup.
They took control of the judiciary some time ago, they recently seized the executive and now they’re destroying any remaining institutional power that can oppose them.
The current regime is not legitimate.
The current technically still is, but the regime they are transforming into won’t be anymore legitimate.
“Technically” is irrelevant. Functionally it’s compromised.
It’s not legitimate because most of the stuff they are doing is plain out-and-out illegal. But like they (Don Jr., etc) said before the election, they were going to go ahead and do it anyway and dare anyone including SCOTUS to try and stop them. It’s going to come down to our military to choose a side.
Honestly, if this gets bad enough, I won’t be surprised if the military indirectly allows him to be removed by force.
It’s incredibly rare for a tyrant to actually be removed by force by a mob of disorganized revolutionaries. When you see instances of this happening, what’s usually actually happening is that the military has lost all confidence in the dictator, and they simply stand aside and let the mob storm the palace.
Think about just what a precarious situation Trump and Musk are going to find themselves in after they fire half the federal government. The DC metro area is going to be at a level of unemployment that dwarfs that of the Great Depression. The whole population of DC will be wanting to see heads on pikes.
The military wouldn’t even have to intervene directly themselves. All they would have to do is stand aside and let the mob storm the gates. That exact scenario has brought down countless tyrants over the generations.
Dictators don’t tend to meet good ends.
Doesn’t the army already have little trust in Trump?
And the new SecDef can just throw out anyone who decides to get in the way or defy orders, no matter how illegal. They’ll keep digging until they either scare everyone into following orders, or they’ll deputize loyal GOP members as a sort of paramilitary (including their friends in the various militias).
He polls really well with them for whatever reason.
One thing I feel sure of is that at some point Trump will order the military to fire on civilians. I thought it would take some time to build up to that point, but I hadn’t factored the magnitude of the Musk variable into the equation. I’d love it if there really was a deep state that would step in and come to our rescue via some kind of “special operation”.
The whole population of DC will be wanting to see heads on pikes.
I wonder how dangerous a mob of laid-off middle-aged civil servants can be?
The military wouldn’t even have to intervene directly themselves. All they would have to do is stand aside and let the mob storm the gates.
Yeah, the military might not be 100% reliable in not attacking US civilians, but in this case those citizens would be rebelling against a tyrant who’s also trying to seize control over the military, destroy alliances, attack friendly countries and drag the military into direct involvement in genocide.
With all the voters suppression tactics, gerrymandering in the house, and all the ballots they had discarded, it’s not legitimate.
Elon’s cash for votes scheme, the amount of russian money and planning on one side, plus there’s a decent chance that the fascists just committed direct electoral fraud as well.
No one has convincingly explained away the abnormally high number of bullet ballots and odd ballot switching at 500 votes in swing states like AZ, IMO.
I saw a more reputable site say that they weren’t actually as high because counting wasn’t complete and the % more evened out and that guy also had wrong numbers in cases, but I really didn’t follow up enough on it to know if it was legit not a problem, or if that site was the one making up shit.
I believe you. Can you share where you saw this?
I don’t have time to verify this, I’m busy for a bit, but, a quick search brings up this
https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/11/21/stephen-spoonamore-letter-harris/
Again I haven’t even had time to go through this, but it might give you more details to follow and find other sources based on whats in there.
Except the current “president” isn’t constitutionally eligible to hold the office after inciting insurrection, so no, it really isn’t legitimate even now
It seems like they want to turn the US into kleptocratic empire ruled by organised crime.
Are there no drug tests for political advisors or something?
I’d have expected this for a position with much power - just like in the military.Or am I that far off here from reality?
Musk has no clearance, wasn’t voted in, is uncredentialed, and unqualified.
The fact that the government is just sitting back and allowing this is disgusting.
All of it to line their pockets with what will be akin to monopoly money once they destroy the country.
All of it to line their pockets with what will be akin to monopoly money once they destroy the country.
People that rich have reserves in other currencies and precious metals. They don’t really give a shit if the US dollar crashes.
government is just sitting back
They fired a bunch of FBI and DoJ, so if they’re sitting back it’s because they’re unemployed.
They’re why they’re so gung ho about crypto. They want to make everyone’s money worthless while they hoard all the gold themselves.
That’s exactly what I don’t understand
There are safe guards for exactly that shit in law (at least I think/hope so), but seemingly no one has the guts to step upBut I have to admit, that I don’t know the American laws at all, and with that don’t know what their actual options are
The department of justice enforces the laws.
Trump is currently the head of the department of justice.
This is the problem
Musk doesn’t hold any official position.
So, how can he even do all that shit and the organisations don’t just tell him to go choke on a dick?
Mostly because it’s so brazen and fucking insane that people don’t even know what to do about it. If someone walked into your office building while waving a knife around and shouted, “get the fuck out or I’m gonna start stabbing people!” what do you think you’d do?
My guess is that everyone is going to run out because we’ve been engrained to recognize the mechanisms in place to prevent and protect from these types of things. Anyone thinking anything other than getting the fuck out would probably be thinking “it’s not worth it, let the police handle it.”
Let’s say you start shouting, “that’s illegal, go choke on a dick! C’mon y’all, there’s only one of him and many of us; we can’t wait for the police, ACAB!!!” I’d probably commend you when I read the article or your obituary, but everyone else in the office is going to be concerned with saving themselves and letting whatever contingencies kick in.
Everyone with the power to stop this is sitting on their hands while waiting for someone else to step up. And we, the people? We’ve been trampled and subjugated for so long that now that we’re being told to rise up, we don’t know how. “Rise up against the system you helped manufacture? How? Y’all arrest and kill us in droves just for threatening money, much less people in power.”
It’s pretty simple: shoot him in the face.
This 100%. Violence is the only language that gets through at this point.
Although this article I read a few days ago focuses on protests, it somehow resembles this situation imho
https://crimethinc.com/2025/01/28/its-safer-in-the-front-taking-the-offensive-against-tyranny
If you always just duck down to survive, they’ll just feel confirmed and encouraged.
Every bit of resistance costs them time and money, and signals to the rest, that there is another way, than to just buckle downPeace through being a hard target. Make it too costly and risky for them to fuck with us in any way.
If they push back, that person gets fired and replaced by a toady who won’t.
Yeah, talk about a hard place and a rock…
Fucking sucks, that there is seemingly no leverage against those idiots
Well. None that are within the rules.
Not an American, but my guess is that they would have to sue and then discover that the judges are all toeing the party line.
Yeah, the last years seemingly were a build up to let Trump live his dictator dream
The God-given right to do what we can’t stop him doing, that’s how.
Must be nice to have no idea what’s been going on.
Because I asked about a detail of how a foreign country runs their government?
Sadly I do get all the shit news. I mostly wonder how this is even possible to happen in a normal state with functioning jurisdictionI was serious. I’d like to not know any of this insanity
Ah, gotcha.
Thought you’re accusing me of not knowing anything, because I asked a question.Get your sentiment though…
Some Americans forget there are other countries. It’s unavoidable until education improves.
Step 1: Remove all the inspector generals
Step 2: Gain access to the U.S. treasury payment system
Step 3: Lock out all the rest of the treasury staff
Step 4: Impose a 25% Tarriff on your largest trading partners
Step 5: Profit!
Step 6: Realize Trump backed down on the Mexican Tarriffs because the president of Mexico called and stroked Trump’s ego.
inspector generals
I don’t want to be that guy, but the plural is “inspectors general”.
Now I’ll say it like that guy in Futurama. Inspectorses generals
I say always be that guy. You have the heart to speak up and help others to learn and grow - for example I was questioning which it was, but you confirmed for me that it is indeed inspectors general.
I’m never gonna forget inspectors general now because of this conversation. It’s with me for life.
You can file it under memories general
All words with that construction are pluralized that way. Inspectors general, surgeons general, courts martial.
Canada now as well. Trump is such a joke.
Wait what happened with the Mexican tariffs ?
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That’s not in any way what happened, but your sexism is noted.
Canada and Mexico both cracked today
What does that mean?
The main concession is Mexico putting 10k troops on the border. There were a few other things as well. I honestly have no idea what Canada gave Trump
You’re leaving out Trump’s own concession.
Trump backed off from both for 30 days, and they didn’t give him anything they hadn’t already promised Biden.
Trump has past form in failing catastrophically, all the while declaring victory. Just like Putin.
They didn’t crack. They played him.
They “agreed” to stuff that they already had agreed to under Biden, plus one or two silly things to stroke trump’s ego.
What really happened was Trump’s donors saw the stock market crashing and yelled at him to cut the crap and make a deal.
Step 6 is how the cabinet members got their jobs and why all the TechBros gave him a million each.
I don’t think she stroked his ego, I think she played hardball and showed him how he was gonna get hurt a lot more than they were, then he backed off (saving face by saying she would send troops to the border). That and the fact that women intimidate the hell out of Trump. He knows how to bully men but women get him all discombobulated.
women get him all discombobulated.
Until he grabs em by the pussy
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it’s only a coup if it comes from the Coup d’Etat region of France, otherwise it’s just a sparkling government takeover.
Which is why the US has never actually staged a coup in a foreign country. Not many people know that
Hey, hey. Elon Musk purchased the US fair and square, we’ve known that for like 3 months now, no need to go acting all surprised!
The Incorporated States of America?
When does the USA invade?
The chancellor is taking power lol
Is it a coup if Trump and Republicans have given him permission and letting him do what he wants?
Yup, there is no legal due process and his team is forcibly taking control of federal organizations. This is an incredibly historical moment we are witnessing. Feast your eyes. While it often gets compared to Rome, United States for all its might will only have been a blip in the historical time frame. Supremacy not even lasting a century. It will barely be a footnote a thousand years from now. Or… Elon and Trumps gambit pays off and successfully annexes Mexico and Canada while turning the US into a true empire that prospers for another century, but not sure if I see that happening. You can only fail upwards so far.
Might have been true during the Roman era or even during the 1930s but in the age of mass communication, a generally informed or disinformed population (depending on how you want to see it), multi national corporations who really don’t care about nations and all mixed in with nuclear weapons … things will be much different. Whether or not that difference will be better or worse is anyone’s guess. But it will be something completely different.
But Trump is calling him a “special government employee”. So I guess he’s also getting paid to fuck over America. Yeah, he’s not elected, but Trump is overstepping his boundaries of power to do all this, but Republicans aren’t doing anything to stop him. So Trump is just going to keep pushing those boundaries and if Congress doesn’t do anything, he’ll just claim more and more power.
Trump is a stooge, giving him agency at this point is generous.
Yes. Since he wasn’t elected and the actions he is taking require actual laws to pass to occur legally
I don’t think that’s a coup though?
Like a coup is a specific thing. What’s happening might be fucked up, and unlawful, but not necessarily a coup.
But in another way he is kinda taking over the government and he isn’t the government
Not really. He has the president’s support. That’s not taking over the government.
Is it a dictatorship?
I didn’t think the president’s role was designed to have absolute power over all branches of government - but maybe I don’t really understand the us govt system.
I think “dictatorship” describes a style of government which may not really apply.
The POTUS is obviously intended to have absolute control hence the existence of executive orders. However, like most of the US constitution it relies on the assumption that the people wouldn’t knowingly elect an autocrat.
That is to say executive orders are intended to be used sparingly, with great caution, not for things like declaring a new official measurement for Obamas penis.
So while the US govt probably wouldn’t be considered a dictatorship generally, Trumps behaviour is certainly autocratic.
Does it have to be violent to be a coup?
If propaganda, conspiracy, and manipulation are also valid tools of a coup, this probably qualifies.
There have been many bloodless coups.
Staging? He is already inside.
if you think trump is bad, just wait to be ruled directly by those fuckers instead of via proxy.
Who’s to say we’re not already. Just look at how much golfing Trump has already been up to! I bet he ends up spending more time in Florida than in DC.
His mind is also mush. He’s signing whatever he gets handed to and rambles some incoherent soundbites he got told beforehand when in front of the cameras.
yeah, but that still has the limitation of having to at least pretend. I dread to think what will happen when they stop caring about that and just directly take control.
The coup has already happened.
Musk is who we deserve. The country that treats money as speech and corporations as people and bribery as political action has the worlds richest man controlling it. Finally, the world is making some fucking sense.
Yes.
Our last hope it seems:
Is Apple™️? I really hope not.
Oh the irony
The only irony I see is the people seeing it as the Apple message and not the message in the Apple ad.
The ad seems to have worked even on the unsuspecting.
It’s ironic because Apple kissed the ring
The hammer lady was absent.
