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“Online” needs to be broken down into “dating app” and “met playing World of Warcraft”
I know people that met in Everquest 2
Online is defined a what? Dating apps, Social sites and forums?
All of the above, but dating apps is likely the majority
Me and my wife didn’t technically meet online, but in college. We re connected online years after and started a long distance relationship until we decided to move together and have been 12 years since that.
I’d bet online has increased at least another 10% from 2017 until 2023.
I can’t bring myself to try online dating, my friend that hit the jackpot and ended up marrying the first girl he went on a date with through whatever app he used tells me it works, as if his experience is absolute, but I hear about too many people getting ghosted by shallow dates to want to try. My self esteem couldn’t take it.
It helps if you have thick skin. It is definitely tough if you don’t deal with rejection well. Though I will say that it can help you develop some of those traits.
Oh yeah that happens a lot, especially if you’re a dude. You just kinda have to learn to not take it personally, it’s just the nature of those platforms unfortunately, they want you to use the app for as long as possible.
Dating apps shouldn’t be for-profit businesses IMO, it just fucks everything up.
Yeah, it sucks that you really have to treat dating as a numbers game (as in if I meet enough people, I’ll eventually meet someone who likes me) and suppress the part of yourself that wants to get invested in each person you date.
I ended up together with my SO who I met online, but I wouldn’t wish the process leading up to meeting her on anyone.
If you’re a male seeking female you are in a crowd of 10-20 males per female on any given app or website. Good luck.
This is anecdotal of course, but probably a good 60% or more of my friends and younger family members have met their long-term partners “on Tinder.” I started dating my wife just weeks before the app launched in our area, but as far as I’ve seen it’s a valid way to find yourself a spouse if that’s what you’re into
I’d be curious to see a more year-by-year breakdown. I feel like a lot of those would fluctuate.
I met my future wife in irc in 1994. In 1996 she moved from where she was to my state, and then in 2000 we got married, and have been ever since. The Internet was way different back then. I tell that to anyone using one of the current/past crop of dating apps.
I met my wife on a MUD in 94, in 96 I moved in with her and we broke up shortly after that. In 2001 we got back together and married 3 months later.
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My wife and I met on match.com. We bonded over our love of cats. We celebrated our 20th anniversary of our first date in March. We lived 5 miles apart before we met. We never would have met without the Internet.
Odd to see so much hate on this thread for online dating. Maybe half of my relationships as an adult came from online dating, including my wife.
Visualization of our society becoming hyper atomized in real time. Can’t meet via friends if you have no friends.
On the one hand, on the surface, my wife and I seem to anecdotally validate the data since we met online. On the other hand, it was 1994, and it was just a discussion BBS, not a dating site. We talked online for a few months before we met, and even then it was just a site meet-and-greet at a pizza place. We didn’t start dating until months after that.
I’m getting back into online dating, but all I know is Tinder and get matched with 18 year olds. What is a site where I can look for actual dates and for people my age.
You can adjust the age filter in tinder I think. Never used the app though, but my friends say there is a setting for that.
OkCupid worked pretty well for me.
I’ve had the best luck with OKCupid, too. Other options with actual users include Hinge, Stir, and Bumble.
I still don’t understand the concept of online dating.
What’s so hard to make friends through hobbies, and from there develop your relationship from? It’s far more likely you will find someone compatible if you are already friends with them first, than trying to form a relationship with a stranger that you literally know nothing about except for what they advertise online.
Of course, this would require people to actually go out and meet people. Maybe this is what they’re afraid of in the first place?
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Plenty of people do hobbies because they want to do hobbies, not to find someone to date. If you date someone from your hobby group then break up, it can fuck up your hobby group. Same risk if you ask someone out and it’s poorly received. Depending on the hobby it’s harder to find new people for that than it is to find someone else to date. It’s similar to dating someone at work in a lot of ways.
The big benefit to online dating is that people are there because they want to date someone.
That’s not I meant. You don’t specifically go do hobbies to date people, but they are activities where you get to meet new friends.
And as you get to know them better, sometimes feelings are formed, and sometimes the feelings are reciprocated. That’s when you start dating and form a relationship. Even if the feelings aren’t reciprocated, you still have made a friend.
It’s a much more healthy way of forming relationship than trying to meet random people who most likely aren’t compatible with you. This was how most people met their spouses (as shown on the chart in the 1990s) - through friends and as coworkers. You get to know people better if you see and interact with them regularly.
If you think about it, dating people is really just getting to know each other first. So, I don’t understand why dating apps are designed to help with “dating” rather than “making new friends”. It’s much more healthy to use the online spaces to meet new friends rather than to specifically date someone through an app.
It can be both.
My husband and I met through an online forum, and were friends for a long time before we decided to try a romantic relationship.
I think it’s a fallacy to assume “online” only means dating sites these days. Many people’s social lives are online, so that’s where they meet friends and partners
Yes, that’s what I meant. You start out as friends (whether you meet online or in real life), and develop from there as you get to know each other better.
Perhaps I’m just paranoid, anxious and completely unfixable but I personally hate the concept of online dating. I feel like it’s the same problem I have with most online services, being a product to advertisers and nothing more then a number. Once again it’s probably me being paranoid but I’m at a point where I would rather just not go through the trouble of dating at all, especially since this data is from 2017 and has most likely favoured online dating further
I guess you’re just using that as an excuse, because you’re afraid of actually opening yourself up to the gender of your interests.
I’ve never been the most confident or outgoing person, it’s just not who I am. I’m also not gonna fill this thread with outcry or a winded sob-story. Instead I will say, use whatever medium you choose to find the person you wish to spend your time with. It’s a short life, live how you wish to live, I’ll do the same.
Assuming they’re a man it makes sense considering online dating has overinflated women’s sense of worth to a ridiculous level to the point that even the smallest flaw is an “ick”
That’s never been different. The fact that women don’t just take anyone isn’t a sign of “overinflated worth”, it’s a sign that the market is working.
There are roughly as many men as women. So almost everybody should be able to find someone. If there’s too many men on Tinder, that only means that men are too eager to go on Tinder.
Yes that’s how most relationships start. The man is the one initiating contact. If a man doesn’t initiate contact he doesn’t get a girl. Men are left wanting while women have several options almost at all times.
I know the current view of men is that we’re all just potential rapists or abusers but that’s exactly why so many men are trying to prove themselves. They’re just trying to prove they’re not what most women today think all men are.
Meanwhile women just exist. That’s literally all they have to do.
That’s almost a textbook incel comment.
If women don’t want you, that’s because you are not desirable. It’s that easy.
I’m not a “chad” by any stretch and rather introvert. Yet even I was hit on by women. And I had good times with them. Didn’t always work out, but that’s expected.
What you’re trying to do here is essentially shifting blame. As I wrote above, there are about as many men as there are women. That means, if you can’t find anyone, that means your imagined “worth” and your desired partner’s “worth” are not the same - and not in your favor.
I’m not desirable because I have resting bitch face. I always look like I’m angry even when I’m not. I’m also 6’3" so I’m imposing. I’m also covered in tattoos and scars some of which are obviously from self harm.
All of these individually are reasons for women to be uninterested in me. All of them together make me damn near impossible to approach.
And even when I do approach women they’re so busy being afraid of my physical appearance they can’t see that I’m not even close to a threat to them.
And that is not any women’s fault.
BTW: there’s a good chance, that your way of approaching other people is far more threatening/aggressive than you might think.
Same, I agree mostly. Though I find being able to date offline and in real life, for lack of better terms, to be worth it. It also puts you ahead of all the people who just use online dating in a way, because you have a real connection with the person you are talking to.
Those seem like depressing trends.
Why do you say so?
It seems like the methods that would have a better chance of lasting bonds are trending down, while more shallow stuff is in the rise.
Meeting through friends would, you’d think, mean there are some similar values and interests, as well as social circles, which would all serve as a decently solid foundation. That’s dropping (probably because friendship in general seems to also be on the decline), while stuff like meeting in a bar is going up… which is generally more associated with hook up culture.
Considering the extreme gender disparity of online dating, I’m inclined to agree. Funny how no one cares about that inequality.
No one cares about any inequity where men are on the losing side.
A portion of men have no control over their sexual desires so I can’t say I blame those people for not caring.
How is that relevant?
Huh?
Male rape: exists
Comedy writers: oh man this would be a hilarious scene in a movie
This is a really weird graph and kinda the opposite of “data is beautiful” lol
care to expand on that?
There’s nothing particularly pretty about this graph. It’s basically an infographic that has two data points and a bunch of lines.
My 3 year olds made prettier graphs from “join things on the left with things on the right”.
In the spirit of this comm, the data itself is secondary to the graph itself. So replace the text with gibberish and ask yourself if it’s still a nice graph. It isn’t particularly beautiful, no. You can feel strongly about the topic, but that’s not important.
what would you have done differently to communicate the data then? assuming the numbers are correct.
Use more than two data points. It is possible that online dating was huge in 2017, but not before or after it. It’s also possible that online dating was much bigger in 2015, and went down in 2017. This graph paints a fake tendency.
As haohao said, more data would make for more interesting lines. Also, since the data should add up to 100%, maybe use a stack graph? Don’t use straight lines. I would also try to experiment with pivoting the data; show evolution over time of a single trend (in multiple graphs). Merge a bunch of low percent items into “other” to clean up.
Just ideas, making a great looking graph is mostly art.
Yeah, it’s more of a “data exists, kind of.”
Data is man made horrors beyond my imagination
Data is manmade horrors beyond my imagination
