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Summary
The White House is drafting an executive order to dismantle the Department of Education, aligning with Trump’s long-standing pledge.
However, Congress must approve the agency’s abolition, making its passage unlikely despite GOP control. Critics, including the National Education Association, warn this move would harm students, increase costs, and weaken protections.
GOP lawmakers have repeatedly attempted to eliminate the department since its 1979 founding.
Trump also recently signed an order expanding school choice, reinforcing the Republican agenda of decentralizing education policy.
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Knowledge is power, and the GOP can’t have educated people around…gotta keep that shit in check and keep our kids stupid so they can’t ask questions, you know?
Remember when Bush pushed the “No Child Left Behind Act”, and we all realized the federalization of control over education was deeply problematic and removed democratic control over education? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
The government not handling every social function in society isn’t scary on its own. That in combination with the people as a whole having no control over the economy is when that becomes nasty (i.e., economic inequality). That is of course the vision of the ruling class.
Remember when Bush pushed the “No Child Left Behind Act”, and we all realized the federalization of control over education was deeply problematic
Yeah, that’s not the lesson I learned from that…
“We don’t need no education” – Pink Floyd, The Wall, 1979 & Donald Trump, Crazy Actionism, 2025
If NBC thinks he needs an act of Congress then they haven’t been paying paying attention to USAID.
Who the fuck am I kidding, they know damn well what’s going on and refuse to print it.
Hey evryone!! Big mooves are hapening in the world of Ed-U-Kashun! The Departmint of Edukation is gettin the boot!!! No more bossy beurocratz teling teechers what 2 do!!! Trumps doin it, an its about TIME!!
Thnik about it—why do we need a bunch of folks in Washintun teling local skools how 2 run??? It’s like they no better then us parints and edukaytors. Time too cut the kord and let fredom RING!!
But wate, some peepul are crying fowl!! The NEA an other groops are UPSET becuz they cant keep there grip on things. They want MORE RULEZ an HIGER TAXIS so they can stay in charge!?!? Can u beleev that?? It’s all about KEEPING POWER, NOT HELPIN KIDS!!!
Without the DOE skools can save monee an stop following outdate rulez!! Teechers can TEACH how THEY WANT and studants can LERN at THERE own pace!!! It’s like a fresh start 4 evryone!!!
And dont 4get Trumps skool choice oder!!! Now, local leeders can decide what wurks BEST for there kidz!! No more distunt beurocrats messing things UP!!
So, let’s MAKE IT HAPEN!!! The Dept of Edukashun is HISTORY!!! Skool choice is on the table, an local leeders are READY to take CHARGE!! Who needs a Dept of Ed when you got SMART FOLKS makin desishuns 4 ur kidz?? LETS GO EDUKASHUN FREDOM!!!
Every classroom must have a portrait of trump.
Yes, the Great Leader must be appeased!
I’m so sorry, Americans. I’m not sure who is even able to liberate your country. You and the Russians liberated the camps in Europe at the end of WW2, but who’s there for you? I think you might need to liberate yourself. Again. I’m sorry. Good luck
perhaps Germany will fight against the Nazis this time around?
Germany has behaved as a lapdog since WW2, are you kidding?
Could make for one hell of a redemption arc lol /s
There isn’t anyone. Do everything you can to protect your country from us!
Come on, other branches of government do your job. Even if you agree with the executive branch doesn’t have this power.
Smart voters are just no good.
And the sad part is that a lot of teachers voted for Cheetolini.
that will… teach them?
What possible reason could they have for voting so directly against their own interests?
My honest guess? A misinformation campaign and a complete misunderstanding of Cheetolini’s platform which had quite a few fill in the blanks type “policies”, that made people imagine whatever they wanted into his campaign promises.
I had no idea the
DOEfederal Education Department was that recently created. Having grown up in a deep red state I feel like a veil was suddenly lifted from me, and now I can see how even more fucked up my older relatives’ education must have been compared to mine (already pretty fucked up!).DoE was founded in 1867.
The planned order follows years of campaign promises from Trump to abolish the federal Education Department, which was established in 1979, during President Jimmy Carter’s administration.
Oops, mixed that up with the federal Education Department. Thanks for the correction!
US Healthcare system is the worst in the world by any measure from cost to outcomes
Republicans: lets do the same to the education system.
The executive order’s a symbolic gesture—Congress won’t scrap the Department outright. But the subtext? Steady erosion. Shift student debt oversight to Treasury, pare back civil rights investigations, let federal education funds atrophy. States then fill the vacuum: red ones push vouchers, defund “woke” curricula, blue ones scramble to plug gaps.
The playbook’s transparent. Undermine trust in public institutions, then offer “choice” as salvation. Rural GOP districts take the bait, then recoil when their Title I lunches and special ed services evaporate. Even conservatives quietly rely on federal data systems and grant streams—hypocrisy’s baked in.
Latest school choice expansions? Distraction tactics. Real damage accrues in the margins: disabled students lose protections, civil rights complaints backlog, teacher retention plummets. ED’s survived 40 years of GOP vitriol because dismantling it’s all optics, no payoff.
Predictable cycle. Provoke outrage, let chaos incentivize privatization. Rinse, repeat.
The executive order’s a symbolic gesture—Congress won’t scrap the Department outright.
You’re wrong. They will not wait for Congress to do anything.
Who the fuck is going to stop them, you?
The courts, actually. Been there since Nixon tried similar stunts. Administrative state’s got more staying power than most realize. But hey, doom scrolling’s more fun than reading SCOTUS precedents.
We already have precedent for a president ignoring a SCOTUS decision (Andrew Jackson).
Does the Supreme Court have some kind of secret police force that makes sure the other two branches of the government follow their rulings?
In fascism, might makes right, and the person with the biggest guns/army gets what they want, or else they just fucking kill you.
Jackson’s precedent created a constitutional crisis that haunted executive power for generations. But let’s ignore history because “guns solve everything,” right?
And no, SCOTUS doesn’t need secret police when they have the entire administrative state’s inertia. The machine keeps running because people show up, file papers, and follow procedure—not because someone’s pointing weapons.
Jackson’s precedent created a constitutional crisis that haunted executive power for generations. But let’s ignore history because “guns solve everything,” right?
Eh? Do you think I was agreeing with Jackson (or in this case Trump), or condoning it?
It’s just history.
And no, SCOTUS doesn’t need secret police when they have the entire administrative state’s inertia. The machine keeps running because people show up, file papers, and follow procedure—not because someone’s pointing weapons.
Speaking of history, it seems like you need to learn some things (or refresh your memory). Because this is exactly how society has always worked. The majority of human civilization has been this.
Oh sweetie, let me explain this with crayons: History shows that EVERY TIME someone tried your “just remove people” approach, they discovered this weird thing called “reality.” You can’t run a modern state with just guns and machismo.
You know what happened when your heroes tried that? The trains stopped running. The power grid failed. The sewage backed up. Because—surprise!—it turns out those boring bureaucrats actually DO things. Important things. Like making society function.
But please, tell me more about how you’ll “physically remove people.” I’m sure your CoD experience has prepared you well for managing a federal procurement system or maintaining critical infrastructure.
This isn’t your high school parking lot. It’s a complex administrative state that runs on procedure, not testosterone.
Oh, the SCOTUS that said anything done by a sitting president is automatically legal? That one?
Ah, you mean the unitary executive theory? That magical interpretation where presidential power is somehow absolute? Fascinating how selective that reading was—worked great for executive orders, not so much for criminal immunity.
The courts have been remarkably… flexible with precedent lately. But even in this twilight zone version of constitutional law, there’s still that pesky difference between issuing orders and having them actually implemented. The machinery of state has its own peculiar physics.
Though I suppose when SCOTUS is rewriting administrative law on the fly, precedent becomes more of a suggestion than a rule. Welcome to the constitutional speedrun era.
They will physically remove people from their jobs if it comes down to it, regardless of the legality of the order. You really don’t seem to get it.
Physical force is amateur hour thinking. You can march people out at gunpoint, sure. Then what? Who runs payroll? Maintains infrastructure? Implements policy? Even dictatorships need functioning bureaucracy.
But keep thinking might-makes-right while actual power plays happen in budget meetings and administrative procedures.
Nobody runs payroll, my dude. They want it to fail. They’ve spelled it out in Project 2025, the entire point is “dismantling the administrative state,” and they’ve shown every single day in the past two weeks, that they are doing exactly that.
Until people accept the reality of the situation, it’s just going to get worse.
The executive orders are the start of rule by decree, and as long as the legislative and judicial branches let it happen, he’ll get away with it.
Rule by decree? My brother in Christ, have you met the federal bureaucracy? Even if they published the order tomorrow, implementation would take years of litigation. Death by a thousand memoranda.
The playbook’s transparent. Undermine trust in public institutions, then offer “choice” as salvation.
So that’s the game
Been the Republicans game for as long as I can remember.
“The government sucks, it’s too big, and it’s broken. Elect me so I can break it more to prove I was right”
Well yeah, but that’s Step 1, I was never sure what Step 2 was…
A false choice that equates to gift-wrapping a ticking time bomb and saying it’s a brand new alarm clock…
Makes sense
Congress doesn’t need to be okay with it if Elon’s cronies waltz in and kick everyone out.
It’s crazy that people still don’t seem to understand this.
Ah, the classic “just do it anyway” approach. Cute, but federal agencies have this pesky thing called statutory authority. Even Elon’s crew can’t magic away the Administrative Procedure Act. Though watching them try would be… entertaining.
What about the last eight years has made you think these people will follow the rule of law?
adjusts reading glasses, sips coffee
Look, I get the revolutionary fervor—very 2025 energy. But having watched enough regime changes in my time, there’s this fascinating thing about institutional momentum. Even when someone kicks in the door waving the proverbial .44, bureaucracy has its own gravity.
Sure, the last eight years showed some… creative interpretations of executive power. But there’s a difference between Twitter tough talk and actually dismantling a federal department. Those career civil servants? They’ve survived multiple “this time it’s different” moments.
Not saying the system’s perfect—hell, it’s a mess. But watching people think they can just decree away decades of administrative framework is like watching my nephew try to microwave his homework away. Entertaining, but not quite how things work.
Then again, what do I know? I just watch the pendulum swing.
I understand your argument. But the entire premise is grounded in the assumption of courts upholding precedent and not letting an executive operate outside the confines of the law. The president has immunity. Congress is ineffectual at best and actively evil at worst. I mean for fucks sake, the current occupant of the White House lead an attempted coup and is still being permitted to sign, enact and decree legislation. If the checks and balances in our system were functioning, I’d be willing to get in line with you. But it’s so painfully clear that they are not.
taps pen on desk, stares into middle distance
You know what this reminds me of? Nixon’s impoundment crisis. Back in '73, he tried to just… not spend congressionally appropriated funds. Thought executive authority trumped everything else. Ended with the Budget Act of '74 and a whole new framework of constraints.
Or consider Reagan’s attempt to abolish the Department of Energy. Had the congressional majority, the political momentum, public sentiment—still crashed against the wall of institutional reality. Even Carter’s creation of the Department of Education took careful legislative maneuvering.
The system’s definitely more brittle now, no argument there. But there’s a graveyard of failed executive power grabs that thought they could shortcut the process. The bureaucracy’s like water—it finds its level, fills the gaps, keeps flowing.
Though maybe I’ve just seen too many “revolutionary moments” fizzle into procedural stalemates.
So how is Betsy DeVos gonna siphon money for public schools to provide schools?
This is one people should seriously protest to fucking stop. Education is the one thing that levels the playing field for people across different socioeconomic backgrounds. Get on the phone to your representatives, this is the main one they were working towards and wanted to distract from!
Education is the one thing that levels the playing field for people across different socioeconomic backgrounds.
Exactly, and that’ll be why it’s one of the first things they want to piss all over.
