Hey guys, even LXC kinda sorta ditched Ubuntu. The creator gave away his baby LXD to Ubuntu and started supporting Incus instead.
Although i think it was just canonical that he wanted freedom from.
Ha, I had the same experience with Debian this week.
What happened with Debian? Just moved to Fedora? I ditched Ubuntu for Debian long ago, tried Fedora but prefer EndeavourOS (“polished Arch”) these days.
Yea no hate, Debian is a fine distro. I’ve always bounced between Debian and Fedora after abandoning Ubuntu years back but recently I’ve been using a Redhat based distro at work and got sick of typing dnf when I meant to type apt.
You can alias it 😅 (I think, or is the structure of arguments too different? It could probably still be done with regex but I haven’t tried aliasing with that complexity…)
Yea but last week I upgraded my laptop storage and decided to go with a fresh install of Fedora.
I was about to install Ubuntu, which I’ve used before, but decided to try out Mint. About to throw the switch right now in fact. Hope it’s a good decision.
Mint is great. I’ve been using it as my daily since mid last year after ditching windows.
Based as heck!
Ubuntu is just like Windows now, you have to run a debloater to make it usable.
The debloater? Debian.
I use popOS and never had a problem with snaps. They’re not nearly as bad as flatpak. I avoid those like the plague.
Both are rubbish in my experience - both on the development side and installation side. To be honest I don’t love building any of the package formats for Linux, and prefer installing deb/rpm. Old school I guess.
i ditched Ubuntu for Void Linux LXDE. Void Linux has runit rather than systemd
This predates snapd
Disclaimer: you have to setup the wifi and enable logind
I don’t get why you wouldn’t want systemd honestly
There is lots of complexity creep. And i’m one person with a finite lifespan. So had to decide what to spend time on.
systemd is ideal for those running servers. I’m publishing Python packages and wanted to keep focused on that.
If you wish to work for me for free, cuz i have zero access to labor or funding, to upgrade my tech infrastructure, i could be a useful person to know.
Especially if you believe strongly i should be running much better infrastructure.
Systemd makes life easier though. Everything is automatic and chances are all you need to to is run systemctl commands. If there is a problem you can filter logs with journalctl.
If your setup works that’s good but from my perspective systemd sounds easier. I also started using Linux around the time systemd was adopted so that’s probably why is seems easier for me.
so does zfs, so does wayland, so does trying out every distro, so does trying out every text editor and associated plugins, so does trying out ventoy, so does GrapheneOS, …
Everything makes life easier, but comes down to,
Linux isn't free, it costs you your timeWhich can be reframed,
what do you really want to spend your time on?If i really really really had to answer that overly honestly, want:
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my GUI apps non-blocking on heavy background processes
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distributing out tasks to many computers and runners
None of which screams or necessitates systemd or zfs or wayland or trying out every distro, every text editor every plugin, ventoy, or GrapheneOS.
Not in a house with a fox with a crow and a bow a knot on a cot or relaxed in the snow, i will not eat never ending random suggestions Sam, i will never eat them Sam i am.
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Arch time!
tldr: He left because of Snap.
-Just like the rest of us.
I dumped Mint for Fedora over upgrade issues. No ragrets.
I fucking love the “friendship ended” meme. It makes me laugh every time.
It is the gold standard!
LOL this is me. Bonus points for the immuteable versions. The first truly desktop linux that “just works” and dare I say improves over windows in basically every way.
Ubuntu no longer supplies value over Debian. Made the switch and can barely tell the difference. And no snaps.
Man I used to love Ubuntu. Then snaps…and it broke a lot of things. Now I’m on other oses. But I appreciate what they did to the Debian flavors of distos.
There is a reason I put arch on my latest computer. I will give it a few months to be sure but I’m thinking of swicthing. details matter so when printing doesn’t ‘just work’ in one program with a print dialog I know snap is not ready for ubuntus target.
