Summary
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez denied claims that she is secretly wealthy, stating she is worth less than $500,000 and doesn’t trade stocks or take corporate money.
Her financial disclosures show modest savings and student debt.
Some conservatives on X, despite opposing her politics, praised her perceived integrity.
Accusations of political corruption have surged online, partly fueled by Elon Musk.
That’s a crazy amount of money. I’ve never had even 10% of that
If a republican said "I’m ONLY worth 500k…you’d all be sing a different tune…
You’re right. If someone who only cares about money and their own self interest comes out as having none, well that’s just embarrassing. Having sold your soul for something you have measurably none of? Disgusting.
Luckily AOC has never done conservative shit like that. lol
Oh brother…
Oh brother indeed, at you trying to rile people up against AOC. I mean, you’ve obviously got a lot of thoughts dinking around in that head of yours; with what, the maybe 12 words you’ve contributed here?
Why don’t you explain yourself if you’re so god damned intellectually and morally superior?
I’m not trying to rile up anything, I’m just pointing out the double standard. I couldn’t care less for AOC. Good for her if she’s considered “less fortunate” as a politician. I’m just simply saying that if a Republican politician says the EXACT same thing, they’d be crucified around here…
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the internet manifest:
1- blame her for having millions due to kickbacks
2- when she proves that her net worth is less than 500K make fun of her for having too little money
Because it’s ONE SIDED around here, just like Reddit… if a Republican said this EXACT same thing, they’d be crucified.
That’s because she’s actually trying to help people, and you don’t get rich helping people.
Well obviously you do. Or she isnt trying to help people. She admitted to having hundreds of thousands of dollars
Where are you from that you think hundreds of thousands of dollars in the US is “wealth”?
Do you know that 500k in the US doesn’t even get you a nice house? You need literally around 2 mil saved up JUST TO RETIRE BEFORE 70.
She is helping people in that she serves her constituency, she is a representative, nobody expects her to donate her money to anyone, but she does raise money in fundraisers all the time. She helps more people than most of her peers in congress. These fundraisers do NOT make you money, you may have some very backwards ideas about how money works in politics. Even the right respects AOC to an unusual degree, like they do Bernie Sanders. At least about policy and messaging. They care more about people than party.
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The pot accuses a bottle of milk of looking black
AOC is a prodigious fundraiser with a significant national following. She might only have a half-million in the bank, but her name and her reputation are worth orders of magnitude more.
Conservatives have a hard time believing someone like that isn’t getting rich quick on $AOCCoin or LeftyBear merch offerings.
Conservatives have a hard time believing someone like that isn’t getting rich quick on $AOCCoin or LeftyBear merch offerings.
Being dishonest you have a bigger selection of instruments to gain power. So politicians are more likely to be dishonest than the average person. And then a dishonest person would use the opportunity.
Anyway, cool for AOC to be honest, but unfortunately her views (specifically support of MMT) are a certain way to nuke the economy of the USA.
If we detach ourselves from the emotional part (suicides, hunger deaths), it may even be liberating, if USD as a currency takes a 10000x inflation in a year or so, while big businesses reliant on American system of connections grown by decades of stability die. US main capital is still human capital, competent people and their knowledge. No hyperinflation will kill that, if recovery is quick enough.
Except that’s not the way people like AOC promise.
The economy is getting nuked right now. The tariff dump and pump is just the beginning.
Trump coin is already a thing, and his minions now run the SEC. By the time Trump leaves office, the monetary theory we’re operating under won’t even be in President AOC’s hands anymore. The full faith and credit of the US government will be gone.
I’m optimistic about US economy and pessimistic about what Trump foreign policy does to ongoing wars.
So then if the economy does get worse for the average person over the next 3.5 years, would you reconsider voting for AOC?
I’m not a US resident or citizen. Haven’t even been on the North American continent.
3.5 years is a lot of time.
Anyway, cool for AOC to be honest, but unfortunately her views (specifically support of MMT) are a certain way to nuke the economy of the USA.
I didn’t realize it was that part of the circus where conservative centrists clowns do a bit for us to laugh at them for.
Neither did I, turns out that yes and you are the clown. Why - because you’ve used a long comment for the sole purpose of “friend-or-foe” determination. I dunno how to call people doing that. If all this was incomprehensible for you - I’m not a conservative.
Anyway, cool for AOC to be honest, but unfortunately her views (specifically support of MMT) are a certain way to nuke the economy of the USA.
The US economy gets nuked every 8-12 years thanks to private equity and boom-bust capital trends. MMT just moves the ball out of the hands of a cartel of hedge funds and into the hands of the US Treasury. I’ll happily agree that its not sufficient to solving the problem of malinvestment and industrial waste. But that’s precisely because its an extension of Keynesian-cum-Friedmanite monetary theory of economics. At some point, you have to take account of real assets, not just float around fictitious capital.
if USD as a currency takes a 10000x inflation in a year
You don’t get inflation like that under Eisenhower/Carter era tax laws. MMT, in practice, is still predicated on some degree of currency recapture. You’re just replacing credit elasticity through private lenders with spending elasticity through public spenders. “Here’s a $500k loan, build a house and pay me back at 6% APY” isn’t meaningfully different than “Here’s a $500k grant, built a house and your builders are going to pay me back 6% VAT”.
Except that’s not the way people like AOC promise.
AOC promises a large public investment in value-adding infrastructure. She’s just proposing direct payment rather than tax-incentivized private investment.
The US economy gets nuked every 8-12 years
Reminds me of that Hashek quote about “sir, you’ve taken the pollen of my innocence” from a girl whose shoulder a boy touched.
Anyway, maybe you’re right.
I hope that AOC has a security detail, a go bag and plan, and an ideal state to reside in. It is my expectation for Yarvin’s Cabel to try to capture or assasinate her at some point, since she is one of the few major lightning rods to be the president of a Free America. We will need great people to organize the defense of our people against the fascist agenda.
Bernie, AOC, others, stay safe and strong. 🖖
I love AOC. I’d vote for her in a heartbeat in primary and general elections. Now, whether she makes it to the general depends on the DNC, and I have no faith that the political consultant/establishment class will let anything remotely progressive through. No money to be made.
I guess the only way forward would be to vote for her in the primaries to such a degree that the Dems have not choice but to confirm her through.
Or, get so much grassroots activism going that you can start a new party for her.
You might go a round of everyone flaming, “nooo! You have to support Dems or Repbs will win!!1!” But if enough people try a vote for your new party, next time it might have a chance.
She doesn’t have to start a new party. The left side of the dems should just use The Tea Party and MAGA playbook. They co-opted the GOP by pushing out Republican incumbents in local elections first. A shitton of money from the far-right went to these smaller elections. Then they moved on up and replaced Republican state senators. They created enough momentum that Trump became a viable candidate.
Push enough incumbents out and the Democrats have to take the left seriously. Plus it will normalize left wing rhetoric and policies among the populace. Screaming “cOmmUniSm” won’t work anymore when the people have seen these policies being implemented in their own communities.
So, how many decades will this take, and where are we gonna get this shitton of money?
The tea party did it in two Obama terms. And the money has to come from the public. Starting a viable third party isn’t going to be easier or cheaper.
Taking over an existing party would probably be easier.
The green party is currently a shell designed to launder foreign influence in US elections. But there ain’t a lot of green party members, and fewer still vote in their party’s primaries. Compared to getting the Democratic party to move in a direction other than right or starting an entire new party from scratch, stealing the green party might be doable. Time it right and you can even make russia waste time, money, and effort trying to keep it.
And it’s not like Democrats are ever going to hold honest primaries again.
You could steal the green party but it’s not going to get you anything. You’d have to do the exact same thing of building up the party from local, to state, to federal offices. And you don’t get to drag along the people who are lifelong Democrats. You’d have to build up the green party and then take on both the Democrats and Republicans.
You could steal the green party but it’s not going to get you anything. You’d have to do the exact same thing of building up the party from local, to state, to federal offices.
Without the full might of the Democratic Party stopping you from winning primaries.
You’d have to build up the green party and then take on both the Democrats and Republicans.
As opposed to having no party and having to take on both Democrats and Republicans.
Democrats can’t put their putrid ancient mummy thumbs on the scale for general elections, unlike primaries, if we ever have any of those ever again.
Dems have no choice but to confirm her through.
That was the Bernie plan in 2016 & 2020 during the primaries. Clinton had the support of the established Democratic party and with superdelegates Clinton took a commanding lead. Similar situation with Biden, most dropped out before Super Tuesday and endorsed him.
Now both of these instances could be considered “smart politics”. If you’ve got the political maneuvering to win the primary, then maybe you’ve got the same maneuvering to win the general.
It didn’t work out for Clinton. It did work out for Biden.
When we look at our most recent election, it’s clear there was a little bit more of a rift, but Harris was chosen and there was no primary.
Now, some of this is simplified and there is plenty to argue. But suffice to say we can’t just vote for AOC “so much” that she’ll win. I don’t see the Democratic party supporting her.
Now it’s too early to talk about 2028 realistically and a lot can change between now and then, but if she were running today she’d have my vote.
I think regardless of whether you are Republican or a Democrat, AOC is probably the closest to what a representative should be. Now whether you agree with her or not is a different discussion entirely, but that’s not the point I’m trying to make. She’s just the only one that actually seems to give a shit about who she represents. Whereas both for Republicans and Democrats the vast majority of our “representation” are crotchety and corrupt old people that don’t give a shit anymore.
She’s just the only one that actually seems to give a shit about who she represents. Whereas both for Republicans and Democrats the vast majority of our “representation”
While I agree with almost everything you said, there’s really no good reason to make a statement like that and leave Bernie in with the “vast majority” group. 🙂
The man has walked the walk for a very long time. (Yes he’s too old to run for office now, but he deserves his due!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders#Political_activism
My bad. Wasn’t trying to throw Bernie aside. He’s fantastic as well.
All good, I wasn’t throwing shade on you just wanting to put in a word for the Bern. 🙂
I saw a recent interview Bernie did with AOC and I learned that she got into politics specifically because she was inspired by Bernie during his presidential run in 2016. Thats something I didn’t realize and it explains a lot why we feel a lot of the same energy from them.
That’s a pretty interesting thing to know, thanks for mentioning it!
Most Americans want progressive policies, they’re just convinced from Cold War propaganda that progressivism/socialism is always the opposite of good.
Bernie stopped running for president after the DNC told him to. He’s proven he doesn’t have what it takes to stand for his principles in a presidential run.
I loved Bernie, even donated to him twice, but he’s a coward and only does lip service these days.
Bernie stopped running for president after the DNC told him to.
What do you mean by this?
I mean that’s objective, observable reality. It’s history.
The DNC pressured him to drop out for Hillary in 2015 after they didn’t like the attention he was getting. The emails came out and the head of the DNC resigned.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/23/us/politics/dnc-emails-sanders-clinton.html
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/
Everyone could clearly see the DNC rigged the primary against him, and then forced him to drop out when he started beating their neolib canidate despite running 7 other progressives against him in the primary. (This is how Elizabeth Warren became well known, the DNC pulled her into the primary to siphon votes from Bernie, the first progressive they ever let primary with them.)
His time has unfortunately passed to be president
Right, I’m aware of the general history and not debating any of it. What I meant was the democrat establishment back-stabbed his campaign both times, but it sounded like you were blaming him for it.
I suppose they are referring to 2016.
Man, if you don’t agree with her views, fine whatever. But for people to hate her so much to claim she’s corrupt when she’s clearly not is just silly.
We live in a stupid timeline. More politicians should be like her. We’d all be better off, regardless of which party they were from.
AOC feels like the only hope America has at any improvement.
I hope that we can also get a younger white male progressive to work along side her. Not because I think they’d be better, but it might help draw emotionally fragile men who can’t accept a woman in charge. Also, it would mean another progressive reaching the masses, which is always good.
A lot of men are sick of being told they’re emotionally fragile for not wanting to be accused of thoughtcrime. Both sides are responsible for this situation and it doesn’t help to attack the base you’re seeking support from. Dems and you need to learn this.
You seem emotionally fragile.
You seem to be deliberately missing the point.
Take a peep into Jeff Jackson, NC AG. Hoping for big things out of him.
Just looked him up and he looks shit.
AOC is great because she is outspoken and holds actual left wing values compared to 99.9% of her party.
This clown seems like a Kamala-lite with his boasting on his law enforcement and military service history.
she’s the real deal, but i fear she’s been too vilified by the diaper and his cult, and the far-right wastes of humanity that broadcast all the bullshit that enable him, to make successful run for the white house.
Any effective progressive is going to be vilified. They will be attacked from all sides, and all of their dirty laundry will be made public. Every flaw, every misstep, every gaff, all of it will be blown out of proportion by the machine they threaten.
And Trump hasn’t been vilified?
Vilification doesn’t matter, getting people to turn up matters.
We would need 60 of her in the senate, or literally anybody else on the blue team, for America to have any hope. Otherwise Republicans will filibuster any spec of salvation.
Which is why, for now, the Democrats need to be pulling all the tactics McConnell demonstrated for them under Obama.
FILIBUSTER EVERYTHING.
This is not the time for Democrats to be the Party of smooth-running government.
Use those loopholes the Right-stealers gave themselves in the rules. The only thing they should be voting for is bills that entangle, delay, or reject Trump’s blitzkrieg.
And if they have to talk across the aisle, it should be to remind them that if they hand the Power of the Purse over now, they’ll never get it back and they’ll lose all their value to lobbyists, all their stock-market prescience, all their importance back home.
That’s the fun part, the Republicans in Congress are hardly even attempting to pass any laws. All they’re doing is appointments, which can’t be filibustered as of 2013, except for SCOTUS which can’t be filibustered as of 2017.
All they have to do now is not stop Trump and they win, because Congress is in charge of reigning him in.
You cannot filibuster against doing nothing.
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I’m also a Jasmine Crockett from Texas fan.
A millionaire lawyer who
was named as co-chair of the 2024 Harris-Walz campaign and is currently a part of the Democratic Congressional Progressive Caucus.
While giving her husband huge security contracts and buying houses in Hawaii?
Hard pass
Go on you valiant crusader.
Continue to shit on anyone who isn’t perfect,
Please let us know when you find the correct candidate.
I did, it was AOC. I said so up above.
The last thing anyone needs right now is more of the same Democrats who never walk the walk, we need more AOCs.
I mean let’s be honest with ourselves: Anyone who had any relation with the braindead mess that was the Walz-Harris campaign should be instantly made out of consideration.
Walz seemed like a pretty decent choice and I liked him a bit. Is there something I’m not realizing about him?
I’m talking more about the absolutely moronic way the campaign was run than the candidates themselves. Harris and Walz themselves were salvageable (sans Gaza, they were genuinely hopeless there) but anyone who was involved in actually running the campaign and deciding the platform is either braindead or a corporate stooge and either way shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near future elections.
Also to answer your question Walz is the “Israel has a right to expand its borders” guy.
Always Israel lurking in the background. Not sure how I missed that one.
For texas, that’s a step in the right direction lol.
I’m glad it seems that many democrats are quitting their Gatekeeping bullshit with AOC.
So frustrating to see people so concerned about the perception of some strawman caricature the right manufacture for our best fighters that we turn on our own. If it wasn’t obvious, they attack her so relentlessly because they fear her and know her potential more some of our own.
Nancy Pelosi dedicated the month before Trump was inaugurated to ensuring AOC, a spoiler leftist in a sea of her crony neoliberals, didn’t get an oversight committee seat.
Neoliberals Democrats hate actual leftwing politicians far more than they hate their fascist opposition party. Makes sense, Fascists and neoliberals have the same bosses and take the same bribe checks.
Nuh-uh! DNC only takes money from the GoOd billionaires.
There are no good billionaires. But pretending the techbros aren’t destroying society at a much faster rate than the old leaches who just sucked the country dry slowly, is just closing your eyes to reality.
I did the capital lowercase thing but only for the word good, so I can see how it is hard to miss. It was supposed to indicate sarcasm, but I probably should have extended the formatting to the word “billionaires” too
A thought I had a few days ago,
The left is all about inclusivity and forgiveness unless you’ve made any amount of mispropriety, then it’s a race to drop you as quick as possible.
The right is all about being held accountable for your transgressions, law and order, you do the crime you pay the time, but they have 0 cares about their leaders being held accountable.
I feel like each party is the watchdog for the others politicians, and the left is way too accepting of the right wings transgressions, while the right wing hammers the left as quick and hard as possible (except we just do it to ourselves!)
I agree with you, except the Democrats are only “left” when compared to Republicans. The USA has a conservative party and a fascist one.
What is this gatekeeping about AOC?
I’m more moderate and have always respected AOC, but thought she was too extreme to make a good president. I genuinely believe that the president should be someone who wants to build coalitions and steer the country towards a better future without allowing it to fracture. I still believe that, but I recognize now that my way of thinking can’t win elections in this modern era of politics. Now is the time for a firebrand - someone who would rather lose than compromise. I would still be worried about civil war if AOC became president, but I’m already worried about that now, so no point in holding it against her.
Absolutely no respect for the people, using the most obvious bullshit trolls now?
Please projrct all the corruption that exists because you were part of commiting it.
AOC 2028
Naive of You thinking, there will be an election in2028.
She’s only 35, give it time
Literally the youngest a person is allowed to become president.
I think if we don’t start WW3 and nuke the planet she’s gonna be the first woman president in the US
I sure hope so, she’s got what it takes.
The DNC would murder her if she broke through their primary defenses and got close enough.
They’re fine with losing, the pendulum is part of the grift, what they aren’t fine with is losing their half of that bipartisan oligarch gravy train. Our capitalists don’t bribe both parties to have those parties stand against economic metastasis at all human cost.
We can have affirmation ribbons and be sucked dry by the oligarchs, or we can have scapegoating and be sucked dry by the oligarchs, that is the extent of our “freedom.” Reagan and Kemp saw to that by getting their former opposition on the take.
Serious talk. When are people going to start calling them DINOs. Democrats In Name Only from the Jurassic period.
You think Trump took over the RNC because the old guard liked him?? No he built on the backs of the tea party.
Bernie and the squad were the lefts tea party. What they need now is a charismatic leader to build on it and kick the DINOs out by force.
The DNC is not that powerful. We outnumber them. Stop forgetting we outnumber them.
Now would be a great time to just put the democratic party out of its misery. Looking around the party, we can be comforted that at least it will go peacefully, in its sleep. Let’s at least see if we can get a fresh new party out of all this shit.
Slave mentality is an unhealthy coping mechanism.
Good thing I don’t have that.
If I did, I’d help protect the system when the molitovs start flying at it like a good house slave, I hope to assist when it isn’t just me, as that would just be suicide by cop.
This isn’t class war, this is 50 years of class occupation and counting. Peaceful positive change has been made impossible here on multiple levels by the owners. I put my hope in the other thing, as that’s the only rational place left to put it.
I’m betting this is less of a “look at her integrity” and more of a “why would a woman have money” thing
