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Next president, assuming there is one, will just change it back to repair relations with our allies.
Even if it never gets changed back, it’ll be a generation before people actually start calling it that. No one alive now is going to give a fuck about the Gulf of America or call it that.
Hey conservatives, not that you’re intelligent enough to figure out how to get on Lemmy, but if by some miracle one of you reads this, why is Trump doing this and floating invading our allies and annexing their territories instead of lowering the price of groceries as promised on day 1?
Cool.
In not at all related news disabling Google maps on your Android device can often be a source of delight! I never knew how capable organic maps was and it has a very nice auto integration.
I’m in the process of migrating my saved locations and addresses to Organic Maps. Bye Google.
I don’t honestly see a big issue with this. First of all: It’s called Gulf of America, not Gulf of USA. Considering it’s a gulf between south and north American continents it’s actually a more fitting name and in no way excludes Mexico.
And secondly, you can just move on with your life and keep calling it the Gulf of Mexico and everyone will perfectly understand what you mean. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and telling you to adopt the new name. Same applies to Twitter and Facebook too for example.
+1. Couldn’t care less. My life will go on. I’m not going to use GMaps anyway.
Changing facts to suit a nationalist and fascist state, purely for jingoism, is appeasement.
This doesn’t really have anything to do with facts, though. Names of people, objects and places change all the time.
Yes, based on nationalist reasons, to chnage facts to suit governments.
This is no different to google kowtowing to China’s imagined borders.
The fact is the worls knows this is the Gulf of Mexico. Not whatever Trump imagines it to be callled. Denali is still Denali, as well.
Nobody is holding a gun to your head
Give them a few months
Allright. Let’s revisit this in 6 months to see what happened - or didn’t.
The “big issue” with this it that it is being done entirely to appease the vain whims of an egocentric wannabe dictator, and for no other reason.
Also, report an error to google maps:
It reads: I read “Gulf of America”. That must be a mistake.
I can’t seem to do this from the phone app
Obviously that’s not going to make one iota of difference. They’re an American company and they have been ordered by the president of the country to do this. They already do similar things in other authoritarian countries like China and Turkey, because anything else would risk the safety of Google employees.
If you don’t like it, change to a non-American product and/or vote for a different president.
The American president can only order so much. As of yesterday, the BGN has changed the name, but this affects Federal Government usage. Google as a private company could continue to use the common name if they wanted to.
This is why Open Street Maps has a “name” field and “official name” field, for where these two aren’t the same. This is already the case for the English names “Saigon” and “Ho Chi Minh City” which refer to the same place in Vietnam.
Well, that’s apparently for the courts to decide. In the meantime they have an executive order to contend with. Google has reclassified the U.S. as a “sensitive country” along with other authoritarian regimes and I’m convinced that this is partly out of concern for the safety of Google employees. Who knows what maga cultists might do if they don’t comply.
Personally I think that obeying in advance only makes it a riskier place for the employees, but it is not my decision to make.
Regardless, I don’t see what issue the courts would have with a private company using the common name of a geographical feature instead of the official government name. That would be a violation of the 1st amendment protection of free speech from government intervention.
I somehow have a feeling that being president of the USA does not mean you can do whatever you want and people have to follow… Google Map, for one, is a product of a private company, not a Federal Service of the USA - so if they want to call it “Gulf of Google”, they could!
Then you’re right, they already protect/black out places and some places’ names, however the Gulf of America, like the Channel of Washington are just bs that in the worst case scenario will live 4 years. So it’s a joke and I like joking too
Would be shame if google are snowed under with reports the name is wrong :-)
Just tried: the ‘report an issue’/‘suggest an edit’ button doesn’t appear when The Gulf of Mexico is selected.
It does for other locations, but not for the Gulf.
I mean Google’s a huge pushover anyway. Who cares what they think.
Apple Maps currently shows it as Gulf of Mexico, fwiw.
What’s that sucking sound?
They are coming for our freedom fries next.
Had to check.
Slowly working towards a viable OpenStreetMap in my area. If you want to help, you can make a free account and begin editing: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/new
You can also contribute on mobile by using Street Complete or any number of great mobile apps that allow limited editing and full map features like Organic Maps
Edit: I didn’t know about Vespucci, which is a full-featured OSM editor for Android. Thanks, @[email protected]
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Gulf of Cuba
:)
Cuba
United States
Mexico
Gulf of C.U.M.
you mean of course, to put the US on top, right. #USANumber1
/s of course, if it wasn’t obvious
Thanks for providing that link. I knew about OSM, but didn’t fully grasp that (duh) it’s open which means I can help with the data. Time to get busy! :)
Did the same in my area. The roads are good, but the businesses are either missing or outdated. I probably added 100 over the last few months.
It’s kinds fun! When I go out, I check OM and see what’s missing, take some pictures, and then go edit a bunch of stuff that night. It doesn’t take long, and I feel like it’s worth my time.
Did not know about Street Complete. Thanks for the recommendation!
Recently began contributing to OpenStreetMap. Information on my place is quite outdated, lots of work to do!
Street Complete is amazing! Perfect for people who find going on a walk too boring, like me
Vespucci is also full editor for android.
There is also Go Map! A primary editor for IOS.
Every door is a mobile editor that allows you to add new things and edit existing ones.
ID is the main OpenStreetMap website editor.
Rapid, essentially just ID but with a special edition of automatic building suggestions and such or what they call mapwithai.
JOSM a full on editor for desktop, does everything ID or Rapid can do and a whole lot more. Its more of an advanced editor.
(viewed from Canada)
Same, but in Japan.
If you zoom in does it change? Mine does. I’m in the us
No
Same in Europe
Same in a little bit to your west Europe.
Time for a repeat comment: Organic Maps does everything Google Maps does (except traffic conditions), and is FOSS. Please encourage places to contribute business information to Open Street Maps.
Just swapped apps. Thanks for the suggestion!
I’m all for swapping apps, but Organic Maps doesn’t even have my home address. And I live in a major metropolitan area.
My test search for the UPS store up the street sent me 4km away. So…not great.
Add it to OSM?
That solves the problem this time, but it doesn’t help if I’m trying to navigate somewhere new.
If it doesn’t have the address for a 30-year-old house in a major metropolitan area, then I just don’t think it’s a viable replacement for Google Maps, unfortunately.
Every time I try to navigate to an address that’s missing in OSM, I just navigate to the nearest one instead. It’s not a big deal.
And when I have 5 minutes of free time, I add the address.That’s how OSM works. There isn’t a dev or company to blame, you can literally fix the missing data yourself. And that’s the only way it works.
I wish OSM had the resources to make something akin to Pokemon Go but instead of capturing something, it adds it to the database.
You are in luck my friend: https://streetcomplete.app/
They have made it super easy and fun. I have been playing it for nearly a year and have made a pretty big dent in my local dense metro area.
oh yay!!
I use Google maps mostly to find out where things are, and unfortunately OSM does not have as many places as Google Maps. I can add one or two places I notice are missing (even though the phone interface isn’t that easy) but Google Maps consistently has better information, so I mostly use organic maps for when I already know the address or already know the location is in its database.
Huh, do they really change names of international things when only one party says so?
Denali/McKinely is one thing, it’s part of the US. But the Gulf of Mexico is a mix of US, Mexico, Cuba, and international waters. I wonder what they show Google Maps users who are in Mexico.
Naming things is complicated.
It’s not really a case where some organisation has the authority to name something. Rather people just call something a name, and organisations adopt that name.
I found this paragraph…
Can Trump change the name of the Gulf of Mexico? Maybe, but it’s not a unilateral decision, and other countries don’t have to go along. The International Hydrographic Organization — of which both the US and Mexico are members — works to ensure all the world’s seas, oceans and navigable waters are surveyed and charted uniformly, and also names some of them. There are instances where countries refer to the same body of water or landmark by different names in their own documentation.
From this webpage… https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/can-trump-change-the-name-of-the-gulf-of-mexico-to-gulf-of-america
They have clear rules for contested areas… that they follow in an as clear way as their user support rules.
That’s reassuring. We all know that google is the best at user support.
What the fuck is this shit?
A born rich low IQ loser jerking himself off while we’re all forced to watch, courtesy of the average low IQ American voter.
Expect in the near future:
Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America) (Gulf of CUM)
Greenland (New Alaska) (New Siberia)
Gaza Strip (New Houston)
Falkland Islands (Las Islas Españolas) (Les Îles Napoléon)
Antarctica (American Liberty Glacier)
