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Slowly working towards a viable OpenStreetMap in my area. If you want to help, you can make a free account and begin editing: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/new
You can also contribute on mobile by using Street Complete or any number of great mobile apps that allow limited editing and full map features like Organic Maps
Edit: I didn’t know about Vespucci, which is a full-featured OSM editor for Android. Thanks, @[email protected]
Also be sure to check out [email protected]
Thanks for providing that link. I knew about OSM, but didn’t fully grasp that (duh) it’s open which means I can help with the data. Time to get busy! :)
Vespucci is also full editor for android.
There is also Go Map! A primary editor for IOS.
Every door is a mobile editor that allows you to add new things and edit existing ones.
ID is the main OpenStreetMap website editor.
Rapid, essentially just ID but with a special edition of automatic building suggestions and such or what they call mapwithai.
JOSM a full on editor for desktop, does everything ID or Rapid can do and a whole lot more. Its more of an advanced editor.
Recently began contributing to OpenStreetMap. Information on my place is quite outdated, lots of work to do!
Did not know about Street Complete. Thanks for the recommendation!
Gulf of Cuba
:)
Cuba
United States
Mexico
Gulf of C.U.M.
you mean of course, to put the US on top, right. #USANumber1
/s of course, if it wasn’t obvious
Street Complete is amazing! Perfect for people who find going on a walk too boring, like me
Did the same in my area. The roads are good, but the businesses are either missing or outdated. I probably added 100 over the last few months.
It’s kinds fun! When I go out, I check OM and see what’s missing, take some pictures, and then go edit a bunch of stuff that night. It doesn’t take long, and I feel like it’s worth my time.
Also, report an error to google maps:
It reads: I read “Gulf of America”. That must be a mistake.
Obviously that’s not going to make one iota of difference. They’re an American company and they have been ordered by the president of the country to do this. They already do similar things in other authoritarian countries like China and Turkey, because anything else would risk the safety of Google employees.
If you don’t like it, change to a non-American product and/or vote for a different president.
The American president can only order so much. As of yesterday, the BGN has changed the name, but this affects Federal Government usage. Google as a private company could continue to use the common name if they wanted to.
This is why Open Street Maps has a “name” field and “official name” field, for where these two aren’t the same. This is already the case for the English names “Saigon” and “Ho Chi Minh City” which refer to the same place in Vietnam.
Well, that’s apparently for the courts to decide. In the meantime they have an executive order to contend with. Google has reclassified the U.S. as a “sensitive country” along with other authoritarian regimes and I’m convinced that this is partly out of concern for the safety of Google employees. Who knows what maga cultists might do if they don’t comply.
Personally I think that obeying in advance only makes it a riskier place for the employees, but it is not my decision to make.
Regardless, I don’t see what issue the courts would have with a private company using the common name of a geographical feature instead of the official government name. That would be a violation of the 1st amendment protection of free speech from government intervention.
I somehow have a feeling that being president of the USA does not mean you can do whatever you want and people have to follow… Google Map, for one, is a product of a private company, not a Federal Service of the USA - so if they want to call it “Gulf of Google”, they could!
Then you’re right, they already protect/black out places and some places’ names, however the Gulf of America, like the Channel of Washington are just bs that in the worst case scenario will live 4 years. So it’s a joke and I like joking too
I can’t seem to do this from the phone app
I’m gonna start creating new pubs, bars and so on, everywhere I go, and call them Trump’s Mexican Deli, Donnie & Elon’s vacancy hotel, and so on. Please contribute (use an alternative google account)I mean Google’s a huge pushover anyway. Who cares what they think.
Would be shame if google are snowed under with reports the name is wrong :-)
Just tried: the ‘report an issue’/‘suggest an edit’ button doesn’t appear when The Gulf of Mexico is selected.
It does for other locations, but not for the Gulf.
I don’t honestly see a big issue with this. First of all: It’s called Gulf of America, not Gulf of USA. Considering it’s a gulf between south and north American continents it’s actually a more fitting name and in no way excludes Mexico.
And secondly, you can just move on with your life and keep calling it the Gulf of Mexico and everyone will perfectly understand what you mean. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and telling you to adopt the new name. Same applies to Twitter and Facebook too for example.
Nobody is holding a gun to your head
Give them a few months
Allright. Let’s revisit this in 6 months to see what happened - or didn’t.
Changing facts to suit a nationalist and fascist state, purely for jingoism, is appeasement.
This doesn’t really have anything to do with facts, though. Names of people, objects and places change all the time.
Yes, based on nationalist reasons, to chnage facts to suit governments.
This is no different to google kowtowing to China’s imagined borders.
The fact is the worls knows this is the Gulf of Mexico. Not whatever Trump imagines it to be callled. Denali is still Denali, as well.
The “big issue” with this it that it is being done entirely to appease the vain whims of an egocentric wannabe dictator, and for no other reason.
+1. Couldn’t care less. My life will go on. I’m not going to use GMaps anyway.
Genuinely curious… How does Google handle other oceanic naming that isn’t agreed upon Worldwide?
Next president, assuming there is one, will just change it back to repair relations with our allies.
Even if it never gets changed back, it’ll be a generation before people actually start calling it that. No one alive now is going to give a fuck about the Gulf of America or call it that.
Hey conservatives, not that you’re intelligent enough to figure out how to get on Lemmy, but if by some miracle one of you reads this, why is Trump doing this and floating invading our allies and annexing their territories instead of lowering the price of groceries as promised on day 1?
That’s a weird flex by South Canada.
The change reflects Google’s policy of adhering to official government names for geographical locations.
OK, so why am I seeing Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America) from Canada?
If Justin Trudeau gets active on this, you can probably get it to Gulf of Canada (Gulf of Mexico) (Gulf of America).
From the Wikipedia for Gulf of Mexico:
While the Interior Department confirmed that the Gulf of America name was effective for U.S. federal agencies, on January 24, the change does not apply in an international context.
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Same here in Europe.
This is highly irregular for several reasons:
Google adheres to official government positions, yes, but as far as I’m aware the American government hasn’t made the name change official yet. Members of the government have said that they’d do this, but I don’t think this idea has passed any process yet. So then why is Google “updated” their maps?
When Google adheres to official government positions, they are local. In example, when you’re in China and look up Taiwan, it’ll appear as part of China. In other countries it’ll appear as either an independent country or a disputed territory, depending on that government’s official position on the matter. What we DON’T see is something like “Taiwan (China)”, as Google supposedly has no intention on forcing the policies of one government upon another government, and as far as I’m aware the rest of the world hasn’t agreed to changing The Gulf of Mexico to The Gulf of America.
If anyone’s interested, here’s what it looks like in Europe. The good news: this is the first time I’ve had to use Google Maps in a loooong time (ignoring embedded maps in other sites). OpenStreetMap is wonderful and there are some superb apps powered by it, including the ever-excellent Organic Maps.
Huh, do they really change names of international things when only one party says so?
Denali/McKinely is one thing, it’s part of the US. But the Gulf of Mexico is a mix of US, Mexico, Cuba, and international waters. I wonder what they show Google Maps users who are in Mexico.
They have clear rules for contested areas… that they follow in an as clear way as their user support rules.
That’s reassuring. We all know that google is the best at user support.
I found this paragraph…
Can Trump change the name of the Gulf of Mexico? Maybe, but it’s not a unilateral decision, and other countries don’t have to go along. The International Hydrographic Organization — of which both the US and Mexico are members — works to ensure all the world’s seas, oceans and navigable waters are surveyed and charted uniformly, and also names some of them. There are instances where countries refer to the same body of water or landmark by different names in their own documentation.
From this webpage… https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/can-trump-change-the-name-of-the-gulf-of-mexico-to-gulf-of-america
Naming things is complicated.
It’s not really a case where some organisation has the authority to name something. Rather people just call something a name, and organisations adopt that name.
I’m in the process of migrating my saved locations and addresses to Organic Maps. Bye Google.
Interesting discussion about this on the OpenStreetMap forums.
The resolution is introducing “official_name” tags, referencing “en_us”, because “en” is not just the U.S.:
https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571/11
So when OsmAnd or OrganicMaps start to support them, maybe your locale settings will change the displayed name there as well.
Current description of that node: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305639190/history/80
So maybe that could be a reason for everyone around the world to stop using en_US locale settings. XD
(viewed from Canada)
If you zoom in does it change? Mine does. I’m in the us
No
Same in Europe
Same in a little bit to your west Europe.
Same, but in Japan.
And you’ll see Amerida right at the bottom of the picture, that’s the capital of Floricatan in the country of America… Have you guys noticed how our country’s name is not America? I would be a fucking retard if I named something “of America” when my country’s name isn’t America. As an example, all Mexican coins say “estados unidos mexicanos” or something like that. But the country is Mexico. Mexico is in America, but they don’t say “mexico of America”, because they are not fucking retarded.
