Banning police unions is a no brainer.
Banning police unions is a no brainer.
they’re downright fucking evil, a hideous example of what a union should be doing. they protect the worst of the worst and keep the city and force paying for their bullshit. and they show no solidarity to other unions.
They are actually a classic example of what unions do.
^ name checks out
lolol sure thing bud
It’s spelled “lol”
Easy block, nothing of value to be had from this dude trying to spell check “lolol”
That’s a good way to keep people out of a profession.
Well, one win out of three isn’t bad for Utah :o
That’s now how this works. Time to beat the Governor to death.
I love picturing this being said matter of factly from a husband to a spouse over morning coffee.
“Oh no, well that’s now how this works at all… Time to beat the Governor to death, dear. Well, off I go for the day, see you at dinner”
He included police unions? He’s fucked. Republican voters don’t give a crap about teachers or firefighters, but he messed with the cops that they vehemently pretend to support.
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Whoa, is that speculation or in the article somewhere?
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God damn! This is insane 😮💨
My money is the police unions will just ignore this; or even more on brand, they’ll invent some new with that just means collective bargaining, but only for police.
that would be too blatantly illegal
Unlike 90% of the other shit they’re doing…
I think the Presudwbtsxrejease of rioters who attacked police officers on Capitol Hill made it pretty clear to cops that the GOP was never actually on their side.
Wow…this is gonna make America so great…
Union prevent heads in sticks, time for heads on sticks
They should strike anyways.
The police certainly had this coming, although I now feel very bad for firefighters and teachers in Utah
They’re going to privatise all three.
Yeah. Because limiting wage is gonna really improve the quality of candidates applying.
Police departments don’t hire “quality candidates“. They use IQ and personality tests to keep smart people excluded from the job, and for good reason: they want brutal authoritarians who will follow orders without question.
Police are not exploited workers. They’re armed agents of the state who have far more power than the average citizen. Most other developed nations have completely banned police unions to prevent them from amassing too much power. And that’s exactly what they do here.
Post secondary education should be a requirement for all police positions. It’s pretty damn unlikely in the US for the exact reason you’ve mentioned, though.
I would say plenty of humanities and liberal arts secondary education.
My opinion is that over time, some unions get too powerful and start getting unreasonable demands met. Then they need some kind of break up or what not. This would be a way to do that I suppose. Though there must be a better way. I think the police union has crossed over the tipping point. But I don’t think I would back this approach either.
Honestly surprised by cops being included in this. Wonder if that will bring major backlash in such a conservative state.
Narrator: it won’t. They are too far gone with the indoctrination. They’ll lament and get back in line, to cheer for the next one who got fucked that isn’t them
You forgot that they’ll also all go to Church on the weekend and tell each other what good people they are. Was it not Jesus who said, “No unions on my watch, pal.”
Fucking strike anyway. What are they gonna do?
I agree with your sentiment but they know what will happen sadly. Back in 1981, Reagan fired all 11,353 air traffic controllers who were “illegally” striking. He also banned them for life from working for the Fed Govt.
Who did he replace them with? Were all the planes just grounded for a year while they looked for and trained new hires?
The postal service is unable to legally strike. They struck in the 70s (?) illegally and got tons of concessions and no one went to prison for it. Seems like teachers could do something similar. We wouldn’t miss cops and, unfortunately, firefighters also wouldn’t be missed (we still love them, unlike cops).
I’m super pro union but your arguments are sloppy.
In 1981 Reagan fired and banned for life over 11,000 striking Air Traffic controllers. People sadly haven’t forgotten.
Without cops, what does a person assaulted or burgled do? How are the 20K+ murders a year investigated? Firefighters? They respond primarily to medical emergency. And about a million fire incidents a year.
Cops rarely, if ever stop, or investigate crimes. Cops have single digit clearance rates for homicides.
The world stops without teachers working. Many people rely on them for childcare so that they can go to work. Air traffic controllers are very important. But many orders of magnitude less important for our economy than teachers.
We can discuss abolition of cops some other time, but we aren’t going to see eye to eye on this. They and firefighters are not on the critical path of daily capitalism like teachers though.
Literally fire them all like Reagan did to the Air Traffic Controllers.
And then what? If you fire all a singular group listed above that’s striking (nurses, teachers, POLICE) who’s going to be there to pick up the reigns?
who’s going to be there to pick up the reigns?
Exactly. Read Project 2025.
That’s the point, you bring it to a screeching halt and they then need to come to the table. But without the social safety nets other developed countries have, people here are reluctant to push back hard. There will eventually be a tipping point in my view in the future.
Time for these cretins to get a history lesson first hand on why there are labor laws in this country. Why there is a forty hour work week. Why there is collective bargaining. Why its keeping them(the management) alive.
There isn’t management for these jobs though. The people are the management. Both sides of the table are the same in the public sector.
Isn’t that functionally banning unions altogether? Collective bargaining is the whole purpose of a union…
Not familiar with American union laws, but that’s protected federally is it not? (aside from the fact that this administration isn’t ‘protecting’ anything, let alone unions)
Correct!
If we can’t bargain legally I suppose we just need to remind them why they gave us a legal option for union organization in the first place.
There is a spectre haunting North America…
Before unions, it was the style at the time to go to the boss and ask for a raise by saying “hey boss, give us a raise, or we’ll burn your fucking factory down”
Just a reminder 🥰
Given the current political climate nothing is illegal.
Unless your not a ring kissing conservative.
I feel like people forgot that this was the compromise.
If they’d like us to go back to dragging the boss out of his home in the middle of the night and beating him to death in front of his family I’m cool with that.
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I keep thinking of the scene in Far and Away where they torch the manor house.
General strike from teachers, firefighters and police it is, then.
Don’t count on cops for solidarity, even with something this blatant.
