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    I’m gonna be dog piled on for this but Zelensky should have just kissed the ring and moved on, he never had to even accept any deal at that time. But he shot himself in the foot with this administration and now has to play catch up.

    Nb4 “trump evil, pj Vance is turd”

    Yea I get it. The usual bot response. But think critically. This dudes country is being crushed and America, regardless of administration, is helping them. Zelensky came to the oval office for help but let his pride dictate policy. Rather than play to Trump’s tiny dick syndrome and get what he wanted.

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      Trump is demanding mineral resources as well as forfeiture of the 20% of Ukrainian territory currently occupied by Russia in exchange for enacting some unspecified plan to get Russia to stop invading Ukraine.

      Zelenski said sure, but he needs a security guarantee that if Russia continues invading Ukrainian territory the US will help defend Ukraine. This very reasonable

      Trump refuses to offer that guarantee and offers no details on any plan to keep Putin from invading further.

      From Zelenski’s perspective this is the US stealing his country’s mineral wealth for a Trump handshake, which is completely meaningless. It’s a bad deal and is unlikely to help the people of Ukraine

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        Can I ask a question in good faith? If Zelensky agrees to this deal without any “securities” how many Americans, and how much of the Army Core of Engineers are deployed to Ukraine to setup infrastructure?

        What does a “mineral resource” look like? Is that a parcel? Or an operation? Who owns it?

        And how is this not creating a defacto military base in Ukraine, Unspoken. And providing Ukraine with the American seal of security?

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          That was like seven questions.

          1)…7) if any of us actually saw the actual deal it would be news

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    02 months ago

    I don’t even know why this shit is televised. I note the meeting with Putin wasn’t.

    Does Trump think this is his new TV show?

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      While talking to zelensky, trump said something like the war in Ukraine could have ended in three days, and zelensky said ‘am I crazy or are you quoting Putin right now?’

      I’m unwilling to listen to that embarrassing shit show again so that’s as accurate as I can get.

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        12 months ago

        I forced myself through it, wretching every time that orange asshole opened his mouth to say something fucking stupid.

        I hate him so goddamn much

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        12 months ago

        Trump said it would have been over in two weeks and Zelenski said “3 days, I heard it from putin”

    • @[email protected]OP
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      12 months ago

      Trump repeating a Russian talking points to Zelensky while obliterating the relationship.