It’s no different than reddit, DIGG, or the Something Awful forums before they got popular.

It’s good to have some friends, but don’t let too many normies in…

Come to Lemmy, we got: blood thirsty Linux users, furries, femboys, communists, and tankies. Also, porn.

We need to get more people in here if we want it to actually be a Reddit competitor. Right now it’s good for some communities, but smaller ones are still extremely underpopulated.

Yup. I’m always wary of people lumping anti zionism, anti Israel government, and anti semitism all in the same bag.

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seriously - too many people see criticism of Israel’s government and read it as condemnation of all Jews. As if it’s the case that that government represents all Jewish people worldwide (or even all Jewish people in Israel…!)

It’s like people are thinking that wanting Israel to stop its genocide also means there should be another genocide targeting Jews?? Nuance beyond that sort of black-and-white polarized viewpoint seems to be increasingly dead.

Jack is still the single largest shareholder of private Bluesky stock (beacause he founded it and never ceded his controlling percentage to anyone) “The Foundation” controls a certain amount, Jack controls the rest, surprise, the “leaving BlueSky” was his agreed stepping away from the board, dude didn’t give up his stock, lol. If anyone tells you Jack isn’t involved with BlueSky any more, you should really block them for either being willfully ignorant, or purposefully mistrustful.

I don’t understand the point of installing a web browser that only runs one website.

Interstellar is the official Mbin app: https://joinmbin.org/apps

I’m not sure anyone mentions bluesky as an alternative to big tech.

Pretty sure they only mention it as an alternative to musk/X.

The thing that it really has going for itself is that it simply isn’t twitter. And Muskler made sure that’s a huge deal.

Do you really think Lemmy could handle the amount of people that Reddit has?

yup. no question. Not one instance mind you, but Reddit is also a giant cluster. (and clusterfuck)

As far as I know the existing instances are usually running on capacity and always in need of donations,

We just need the big bois to stop stuffing themselves. There’s 0 reason to have 2/3 of the totally traffic flooding into world because people are scared of Federation that they never even have to deal with.

Maybe Lemmy would benefit of some way to get people to pay, such as purchasing the ability to give people awards etc.

Maybe we make some premium pay servers with baller architecture, killer response time, user capacity limits and high speed storage?

But the point is that without a business model, the Fediverse will only be able to handle a limited number of enthusiasts before it faces scaling problems.

Eventually, it’s going to be ads, donations or payments. It’s all someone else’s computer, someone has to foot the bill. But at great scale, you should be able to have an ad-free experience for something in the range a dollar or two a month.

LW definitely can’t handle more traffic than it already has. It already (thanks to the admins’ refusal to update to the latest version of Lemmy, which fixes this issue) takes multiple days for LW content to get federated to other instances properly, which is why I’ve had to switch over to this alt account of mine because there are zero comments on this post in my main instance. With more users, that delay would grow from days to potentially weeks.

Bluesky was always twitters goal, they were losing hella money, so they devloped blue sky.

I’m really not happy about bluesky their fragmentation of the fediverse protocols

shrug, I wish they were with us, but they are also a big ole corporate entity, so I’m kind ok with us staying our our side of the fence. As they need to implement payment and corporate protections to their network, we’re free to be free over here.

is only going to harm us in the long run.

We don’t have to play ball. not with them anyway,

I think, If we have any credible threat, it’s going to be from the Governmental gross anti-tampering laws, forced moderation, or backup regulations. They could make it legally difficulty for us to exist.

Intentionally, I think.

We still shouldn’t be doing the dirty work of rich people for them.

We should all be promoting Mastodon over the centralized and corporate-owned bluesky.

This was literally the photo that finally got me banned from Reddit years ago.

How can anyone not love the guy?

So twitter didn’t make money anyways, this is a better way for them to hold power

I’m not familiar with the details of that, but it seems like more of a red herring to me. A form of controlled opposition to divert people away from truly revolutionary platforms.

Of course it has to seem like a plausible alternative, but is it actually decentralized or altruistic enough to make a meaningful difference? I think not.

If I was losing money and wanted to mantain control over the public id become a public benefit corp too

Chances are it’s really just that, a start. See OpenAI.

“Public benefit corporation” is a meaningless designation. All it means is they have the option of putting their mission over their shareholders, not that they are obligated to do so.

Dipshit in chief and his butthurt-prone sidekick will probably sue.

https://www.businessinsider.com/x-competitor-bluesky-valuation-new-funding-round-2025-1

There is another interpretation. Calm down.

I’m wondering this too People are hyped about bluesky but it is the same corpo bullshit that Twitter is. I mean it is literally by the same dude. Why fold?,

When I said bluesky will be the next Twitter did I said Twitter is a good place. Twitter is now bullshit.

Why bluesky instead of mastodon?

Because there is only so much oxygen in the room, and corporate ventures like Bluesky seem to come into really exciting DIY community spaces that are creating amazing things and pull the oxygen out of the room while never quite delivering on what they are promising… or seeming to promise… and in the mean time the projects that originally created the innovative energy in the space are lost in the noise.

I mean… see basically the entire early history of the commercialization of personal computers for endless repetitions of this pattern.

Remember we are not the customers of corporate social media companies, we are the raw husks they extract value from through surveillance capitalism and ads/paid content.

Are you new to the internet? NSFW literally means what it says: it’s content that would not be safe for you to be viewing at work.

Advertising has nothing to do with it, which is why you still get ads on NSFW boards on 4chan; they’re just NSFW ads.

I think that it’s just words & images on a screen that we could easily ignore like people did before, and people are indulging a grandiose conceit by thinking that moderation is that important or serves any greater cause than the interests of moderators. On social media that seems to be to serve the consumers, by which I mean the advertisers & commercial interests who pay for the attention of users. While the old internet approach of ignoring, gawking at the freakshow, or ridiculing/flaming toxic & hateful shit worked fine then resulting in many people disengaging, ragequitting, or going outside to do something better, that’s not great for advertisers protecting their brand & wanting to keep people pliant & unchallenged as they stay engaged in their uncritical filter bubbles & echo chambers.

With old internet, safety wasn’t an internet nanny, thought police shit, and “stop burning my virgin eyes & ears”. It was an anonymous handle, not revealing personally identifying information (a/s/l?), not falling for scams & giving out payment information (unless you’re into that kinky shit). Glad to see newer social media returning to some of that.

I think the rise of hate speech on centralised platforms relies very heavily on their centralised moderation and curation via algorithms.

They have all known for a long time that their algorithms promote hate speech, but they know that curbing that behaviour negatively affects their revenue, so they don’t do it. They chase the fast buck, and they appease advertisers who have a naturally conservative bent, and that means rage bait and conventional values.

That’s quite apart from when platform owners explicitly support that hate speech and actively suppress left leaning voices.

I think what we have on decentralised systems where we curate/moderate for ourselves works well because most of that open hate speech is siloed, which I think is the best thing you can do with it.

Imagine traveling down a liminal space of tubes and the only signs are nondescript TLDs.

Yeah, odd inclusion. Duckduckgo is indeed a search enginge, but it’s essentially just a front end for Bing.