The interval between the onset of symptoms and death has been 48 hours in the majority of cases, and “that’s what’s really worrying,” Serge Ngalebato, medical director of Bikoro Hospital, a regional monitoring center, told The Associated Press.
The latest disease outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo began on Jan. 21, and 419 cases have been recorded including 53 deaths.
According to the WHO’s Africa office, the first outbreak in the town of Boloko began after three children ate a bat and died within 48 hours following hemorrhagic fever symptoms.
The earth will be ok. One day we’ll be gone and she’ll be just fine.
People say save the earth, save the earth. The earth is fine. The people are fucked. We’re going away, folks.
I’m pretty sure when people say that they mean “save the [current state of the] earth [so we can continue living on it together]”.
They were quoting George Carlin.
I guess I should tell him too. Maybe wait until after the show. 🙃
Frankly, she’ll be better off.
Its too bad I don’t care about the rock we’re floating around in space on and mostly care about me and my loved ones.
Oh you didn’t need to tell us you care more about your stuff then anyone else’s, bud.
Fine, and the the innocent people on it. Jesus fucking Christ.
My point was that Earth itself is just an object with things living on it.
I might be aggressively fucking angry at like 90% of the voting eligible populace in America but there are a ton of other people that don’t fit into that category that don’t hold my ire.
None of us are innocent.
Shit, have I run into someone more misanthropic than I am right now? Neat.
A misanthrope that cares about “innocent” people? Seems fishy.
This is a dumb framing. People want to stop climate change to protect themselves and their loved ones from having to live in an inhospitable hellscape and doom humanity to extinction, not because of an emotional connection to the actual planet.
To me it’s ridiculous that we have no reverence for our actual, objective God: the living Earth.
All the fairy tale imaginary sky daddies people kill other people over while actively desecrating our factual creator with abandon.
We’re so weird. We have a creator. The natural world. And we’ve been in a hot war with that only actual God of humans for about a quarter millenia, lol.
We’ll lose handily. And life will go on.
There are definitely religious and spiritual systems that revere nature, like paganism. It’s the only thing that really makes sense to me.
That’s a generalisation.
Plenty of people have reverence for the natural world.
Certainly not plenty, given what’s happening.
And I don’t mean empty rhetorical reverence.
Reverence would mean having a zero to positive net environmental impact. Like the Native Americans. They weren’t perfect or necessarily peaceful between one another, but they practiced reverence towards the natural world.
Those with practiced reverence towards the natural world don’t fare well amongst our species. We take humble coexistence with the Earth as weakness like clockwork. We jail them for ecoterrorism and genocide their cultures because they get in the way of economic and population metastasis, sadly because we consider our God to be subject to us and not the other way around as we’re going to learn in the coming decades by our own actions and hubris.
I mean “learn” loosely. Sadly many wouldn’t admit to themselves we were wrong or abandon currency as their god even if a CAT 6 just hurled a bus at their head.
That’s subjective as it depends on your definition of reverence and of plenty.
That said, it’s a very good point you raised initially and I wholeheartedly agree that it’s a bit weird.
I agree that the natural world is, for all intents and purposes, analogous to a god.
I also agree that everyone, particularly the most pious of us, seem determined to disregard this god.
Religion is the wrong word, but I do wish that there was more focus on building appreciation for the natural world.
I’m reminded of the “solar punk” movement. There’s an instance slrpnk.net which collates some of these ideas.
Guess I need to change my dinner plans for tonight.
ate a bat and died within 48 hours following hemorrhagic fever symptoms
Are we seeing another Ebola outbreak? Or is this a different viral hemorrhagic fever?
All samples were negative for common hemorrhagic fever diseases, although some tested positive for malaria.
Looks like at minimum, it’s a strain of Ebola that’s different enough not to register on a test.
We should really stop eating bats.
spoken like someone trying to keep all the good bats for themselves
I’ll take all your
deliciousbat meat and dispose of it safely for you
ITT: People that think only bats get human-transmissible diseases.
No, but they get some nasty stuff that if transmitted to humans more often prove lethal. It is due to bats having an incredibly high body temperature (even more so than most other flying things though most of them are high). Human fever really cannot compete with that and our bodies may just kill themselves with the viral response IIRC.
Exactly, it can go bat -> livestock/pet -> human just as well.
I’m just one person wondering why it seems like bats are involved so often in stories like this.
Yeah who has ever heard of bird flu?
Unless there’s a longer dormant period where this is contagious, but shows no symptoms, this disease kills too quickly to become a world pandemic.
That’s true with a higher mortality rate.
It has killed around 10 percent of victims, so it can be spread by the rest.
Anyone that’s played plague Inc knows how this goes. It’s not a winning strategy.
I learned how to be in a relationship from visual novels.
Yeah but one of these days a virus is going to get smart and start up in New Zealand and Madagascar. Chuck in a long asymptomatic (edit: contagious period) and game over.
Come to think of it, why haven’t viruses done this yet? What are they, stupid?
Hello! I’m from New Zealand. Why is the scenario of a virus starting here a bad thing?
I propose the Republican’s private islands wherever they are.
It’s a Plague Inc. joke. In this game, you’re the virus/bacteria, or whatever other disease. You guide the virus’s evolution with the aim to destroy humanity.
The virus slowly spreads across the earth through planes, boats, etc.
There are a few really isolated spots, including New Zealand, that are hard to get to and they often seal their borders very quickly. When that happens you lose.
So the smart first step is to start the virus in one of the hard to reach places.
Originally Pandemic 2… i miss flash games lol
we could all just move to greenland and close the ports
Oh shit bro delete this. We don’t need to be giving Trump any ideas.
It’s a bit of a toss up for me between staying in virus plagued USA or locating to Trump’s new monarchy in Greenland.
What I never got about this game is that when the virus mutates, ALL copies of that virus mutate in the exact same way. Couldn’t they make a realistic version?
A realistic version would be pretty boring. That’s basically the same as just working for the CDC.
Under this administration, working for the CDC is probably not as boring as it usually is.
Asymptomatic until ready then the whole tree in one minute
A ton already are!
Most viruses, we don’t even notice them… the really virulent ones cause few, if any symptoms.
We just generally don’t worry about them, is all.
Not with that attitude
That’s looking on the bright side of things I guess
It also depends on its mortality rate. The, article says 50 died but over 900 infected.
Still incredibly high, but initially it seemed like it was much higher. If enough asymptomatic, or non deadly people catch it and pass it on, it’s still pandemicable, just less effective.
If you want to stay up for a few nights, read The Hot Zone, which is about Ebola. Those bats are gonna kill us all someday, and there are so many of them!
It’s not the bat’s fault really. If us humans would stop encroaching further into their territory and stopped warming the planet to the point of no return, we might not be having such extreme issues with zoonotic viruses we’ve never encountered before trying to kill us.
Don’t even need that much; just stop eating them.
It’s the Congo.
King Leopold was one of history’s greatest monsters. Rubber tree plantations - they’d chop a hand off or worse if you didn’t make quota. (The Heart of Darkness, later retold as Apocalypse Now, later retold as Spec Ops: the Line.)
The region has been ravaged for the past two centuries. Remember Kony 2012? Those starving children could have been soldiers.
Easy to say to starving children. (Which is what happened in op’s article)
Too bad there’s no one who could solve world hunger for 6 billon dollars…
Well I SAID should be sending them foo… Oh…
If people aren’t living in the bat’s territory they wouldn’t be eating them either.
Fair.
Tbf, even if we gathered all people in one giant city to stop encroaching, bugs would follow us due to our food storage/waste and blood, and bats would follow the yummy bugs and make homes in the structures we make, which like for pigeons are often good for bats too. Bats, rats, and some birds you’ll never be able to really escape by avoiding nature because they follow us or something else that does.
I was tripping on shrooms on day, looking at the grass and noticed an ant scurring around then another and little, tiny beetle looking bugs. Then i looked out across a field and saw gnats,bees ,wasps , flys, 20 or 30 birds in the distance , a couple squirrels and thought about the worms under my feet and realized this is their world we just live in it. We are outnumbered a million to one and they don’t need us at all
And no matter how hard some try, they’ll never escape it all.
I prefer to live as close to it as possible instead, and as in harmony with it as possible. I do like electricity and running water though lol, but I’d rather be amongst nature than my “fellow” man any day.
For your next psychedelic trip, think about your gut microbiome.
I try to take care of those little beings as best I can
This does sound wild.
This has nothing to do with climate change that generic area of the world has always beet stock-full of nasty diseases. Even considered by African standards of unlucky geography the Kongo basin is triply fucked.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51N5u7HMbaL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg
This one will keep you up at night, it was SO fucking interesting. It’s basically a story about a crime fighter who goes in and solves really complex crimes…but all the crimes are weird diseases, like strange brain swelling diseases that are gonna kill a ton of people in the US, and the detective has to figure it out before a bunch of people die.
We have the technology to solve insane cases, but we are completely hamstrung by mentally deficient politicians like our current idiot and his party. And how we still prevailed despite their obstructions.
The image link is to the cover of The Premonition by Michael Lewis.
It was a sick ostrich
Allegedly
the first outbreak in the town of Boloko began after three children ate a bat
You’re kidding me
EBFO? Eat a bat and find out.
Do we need awareness campaign for “don’t fucking eat bats”? Didn’t know we were that hopeless as species.
Economic desperation and lack of education. Think back to how dumb humans were just like 400 years ago, which is what 20 generations or something? Essentially no grasp of diseases in the modern sense. We are biologically 99.9999% or whatever the same as them.
Ebola spread during that ~2015 outbreak in large part because local customs meant washing the dead and otherwise being in close physical contact. Sadly, people simply didn’t know better.
Also, this is exactly why dismantling USAID was such a phenomenally stupid idea.
You want more plagues? This is how you get more plagues.
I doubt these kids had many food options dude .
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Inb4 congo virus lab conspiracy theory
there have been legitimate concerns that the ongoing violence in the DRC could result in lab leaks and whatnot. I believe there are or at least once were some small lab outputs in DRC bush set up to help with monitoring for diseases.
The interval between the onset of symptoms and death has been 48 hours in the majority of cases, and “that’s what’s really worrying,”
That’s also great news because it’s easy to identify infections, quarantine, and contain. What would be really worrying is a hemorrhagic fever with an incubation period of 5-21 days a la covid.
Just because they died right after showing symptoms does mean that’s when they were infected. Maybe you’re contagious for 3 weeks then cough twice and die.
Have a nice day.
Have a nice day.
I don’t think I will
Yeah no thanks, you have a nice day 🤣
Don’t tell me what to do, you’re not my parental figure
Why don’t you both have a nice day? 😤
Honestly, every last one of you can go have a nice day, as far as I’m concerned.
Can’t we just have a regular old plague that kills like 30% of the population and not that sigma “I don’t really want to kill you” bullshit?
Covid was so annoying, because it killed too few people for many to care. I don’t want that again.
Why yes, actually! The bird flu pandemic should be along any day now (just waiting on that one last mutation to be able to spread between humans), and that one’s projected to have a super-high death rate.
Bird flu could be that. By some estimates it has had a 51% mortality rate, compared to COVID’s 1-2%. But if it’s all the same to you, I’d still rather not. Maybe you don’t mind seeing those you care about die in pain, but some of us had enough of that a few years back.
90% mortality rate for pregnant women.
So i know (hope) this is satire. I’m also aware that people latch on to dumb things and propagate them, like Flat Earth and the like. So I’ll clarify that with a 2% morality rate there were literally dead bodies stacking up in the streets in NYC.
The only reason the right wing propaganda machine was successful in misinforming rural areas was because the administrations efforts to reduce/slow the spread of COVID, haphazard as it was, turned out to be successful in preventing mass deaths like that seen in NYC. And it was a close thing.
The thing is people are so goddamned gullible, so credulous of their media of choice, that a 30% mortality rate would only fuel more dumbshittery
If you’re really careful, you might see that I qualified that statement above
it killed too few people for many to care
The emphasis is there for a reason.
And BTW, that statement is not a joke, but based on actual study results. You know why? Covid having a 2% mortality also means it has a 98% survival rate - much much higher in younger healthier people. Exactly that was the problem. For the vast majority of people covid did not feel like a real threat, because it wasn’t. Long covid and the other long term effects only really came to light in 2021 and later.
I didn’t shelter in 2020 for myself, but for others. If there is no such thing a society, individuals will act like selfish assholes and don’t wear masks, get vaccinated, etc. If Covid would have caused widespread erectile dysfunction, the entire world would have been shutdown in 5min and nobody would even doubt masks.
WHO, governments, responsible media lost the war about representing and reacting to the pandemic right in most places and there weren’t much pushback against misinformation.
Salting the wound: after antivaxxing became a part of people’s identity, got coupled with their political views, the critical mortality rate to sober up the majority only grew higher.
I avoided it because I don’t like being sick. It sounded like a pretty shit thing to catch, now had it like 4 times but at least after vaccination and it’s been fairly mild.
Absolutely!
Another example is HIV: Initial infection is just a minor flu, you’re then infectious and active for 5-10 years before becoming seriously ill with AIDS (of course this is for untreated HIV). This allowed the illness to spread for decades adapting to humans before finally being identified in the 80s, killing millions.
Just gonna tack on here that everyone’s favorite presidential whipping boy, ol’ Ronnie shithead Reagan, was partially responsible for allowing it to continue spreading. Hell, his press secretary or some equivalent laughed at the one reporter that actually asked about it and implied the reporter was a homosexual. He also abandoned his buddy Roy Cohn because of it too.
May he rot in piss.
I’m afraid there may be a resurgence of the HIV denialism movement given that RFK is now secretary of health.
That’s also an old Soviet intelligence classic, so I’d bet you’re spot on.
HIV denialism
Because of widespread use PREP/PEP, there’s a growing number of people who stopped using any protection including the aforementioned meds…
Given that he thinks HIV/AIDs is the result of Amyl Nitrate abuse already, he just has to say it official.
That quote doesn’t tell us anything about the incubation period unfortunately.
The year is 2024.
Trump is elected president.
Somewhere in the world, a butterfly flaps to the left instead of the right.
A bat follows it.
RFK eats said bat.
RFK puts a second bat into a blender, then feeds bat soup to…
Brain worm
Then he injects the butterfly
I see you read that article toi
Chicken of the cave!
When this civilization falls and the next one is beginning there’s going to be a religious ban on eating bats.
If it flaps, you slaps. Amen.
Confused, currently fapping my slap.
The Bible already addresses this:
https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/what-does-the-bible-say-about-bats/
Fuck yes! A deadly pandemic without long drawn out suffering? Sign me up!
Yeah those 48 hours don’t look too fun either though.
Feel awful for those affected.
I’d rather have a few months of major discomfort than the two days of hard-core body horror that they just went through.
Sadly, that makes this unlikely to go pandemic. If it kills too fast it can’t spread.
We’ll have to live a little while longer… 😒
God damn it
This guy has definitely played ‘Pandemic’ the flash game
Specifically the flash version?
I guess not lol, but I did think it started as a flash game.
I believe you’re correct, though I haven’t played any version of it so I’m not an authority.
This was just meant to be a gentle ribbing, no worries about your actual level of accuracy.
Until some poor sap examining the body gets a tear in his PPE and he gets the mutated version that turns him into a zombie
gets a tear in his PPE
I winced. Is it confirmed it can be transmitted sexually?
I’m not sure if this is satire or not lol.
If not: https://www.osha.gov/personal-protective-equipment
If so, haha pp funny
Yeah, just a dumb PP joke, sorry.
lol no need to apologize, like I said, pp funny
“Why do we send all these people food”
So they don’t have to eat fucking bats with covid-9000
“Why do we send all these people food”
Because we have excess and they don’t.
It’s exactly nine thousand!
It’s hard to explain international politics. This was a great example of doing it right.
covid-9000
Sweet name for a Nu Metal band
That’s going to be a one year or one generation solution to the problem. Then the situation is even worse.
HAL was a virus the whole time
Fuck! Dudes! I strictly repeated several times to not eat bats so we could prevent another covid! WTF was wrong with these people? Bat= not food!!! Other not foods include but not limited to Stork, venomous things, pets, people, clouds, poop, teeth, big cats, other cats, armadillos, rinos, elephants and other nature show animals. Food animals… Chicken, tilapia, cow, pig.
Now the next and most important thing to do is: 1) don’t go to Congo to see or touch or be near the dead. 2) don’t come back from Congo if you saw, touched or were near the dead. Easy peasy.
Obviously this was a mutant rabies virus. Let’s call it RabiesUltra25…RU25 for short. Thanks for reading! Look out! Behind you! Gotcha!
“Drugs are bad, m’kay?”
