The latest Edge Canary version started disabling Manifest V2-based extensions with the following message: “This extension is no longer supported. Microsoft Edge recommends that you remove it.” Although the browser turns off old extensions without asking, you can still make them work by clicking “Manage extension” and toggling it back (you will have to acknowledge another prompt).
At this point, it is not entirely clear what is going on. Google started phasing out Manifest V2 extensions in June 2024, and it has a clear roadmap for the process. Microsoft’s documentation, however, still says “TBD,” so the exact dates are not known yet. This leads to some speculating about the situation being one of “unexpected changes” coming from Chromium. Either way, sooner or later, Microsoft will ditch MV2-based extensions, so get ready as we wait for Microsoft to shine some light on its plans.
Another thing worth noting is that the change does not appear to be affecting Edge’s stable release or Beta/Dev Channels. For now, only Canary versions disable uBlock Origin and other MV2 extensions, leaving users a way to toggle them back on. Also, the uBlock Origin is still available in the Edge Add-ons store
I had a feeling this would happen. I have to use Google services for a lot of things at work and Edge works fine with them. Firefox usually does okay, but not always. And now Firefox is requiring you to hand over your data to them.
Can any Chromium-based browser refuse to turn on V3 or is it too baked-in without forking the entire project?
And now Firefox is requiring you to hand over your data to them.
If you’re talking about the most recent news about the Terms of Service, that is a gross misreading of what they said.
I imagine so, but the technical burden is at risk of growing over time as the upstream chromium may significantly deviate from or remove some of the functionality.
IIRC Vivaldi and Brave promised to prolong it for a year.
Test-driving them both now.
That’s not what that Firefox thing was about at all.
And now Firefox is requiring you to hand over your data to them.
If you’re talking about the recent news, that’s not what the updated privacy notice says.
Mozilla will be adding opt in LLM functionality to Firefox. It can use third party LLM providers. The privacy has been updated to say “btw, any info you give to this LLM will be processed by the LLM by a third party.” I.e. the LLM provider has the data once you send it to them.
Microsoft is a spineless removed.
It’s the biggest one still federated with .world with that filter.
Vivaldi still supports V2 Manifest (including ublock Origin) until July, I believe. Brave too, I think.
edit: I find it fascinating how mentions of Vivaldi (or other browsers) always gets so many downvotes. Why do downvoters care so much about browsers they don’t use?
Because we want a more permanent solution than one that’s only going to last until Summer. What’s even the point of switching if you just gotta do it again soon?
Edit: Winter too. I apologize to our friends on the southern hemisphere.
Wait, is that all? Because its not a permanent forever fix for Edge users its downvote worthy?
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Maybe Vivaldi or Brave users are reading this article thinking their Manifest v2 support is ending at the same time as Edge? It isn’t and I’m letting those users know.
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Maybe there is some critical functionality someone needs in a Chrome based browser and they’ll take Manifest v2 support wherever they can get it for as long as they can?
Do you think your specific situation, and therefore your specific desired solution, is the only one in the world that exists?
Because its not a permanent forever fix for Edge users its downvote worthy?
Yes.
Yes.
I really appreciate the honesty, thank you. I now don’t have to care that those downvotes are rational.
Following this same logic I imagine you downvote news of any treatments that extend the life of cancer patients because the new treatments aren’t full cures.
Except in this case, the full cure also exists already and you’re trying to push the temporary treatment instead, for no good reason.
There is no full cure. Nothing will offer a Chrome based browser support Manifest v2 after July. Your “cure” is “give up now”. Which, hey, if you want to, go for it. But for those that don’t for their own reasons, why are you so upset about them having the info about other browsers? I’m offering people information on a option that will preserve the functionality of manifest v2 Chrome based browsers or if they’re already using them that are still working meanwhile the article we’re talking about is referencing that functionality being removed early.
I find it bizarre that these downvoters are so obsessed with people not having this information. How is this information in peoples hands hurting YOU so much? If you don’t want to use Vivaldi? Don’t! I’m not your dad. Move on and the people that want this info have it.
There is no full cure. Nothing will offer a Chrome based browser…
The full cure is a non-Chrome-based browser, obviously. The notion of “some critical functionality someone needs in a Chrome based browser” would violate web standards and is therefore invalid bullshit and a cynical attempt to move goalposts.
Why are you arguing in bad faith?
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Perfect time to check out AdGuard Home. Trivial to install locally. Probably took less than 3 minutes to install and get it operating. Hardest part was updating my router config. (Goddamn Google WiFi!)
Then you can focus on getting a better browser. Support libre software and check out LibreWolf.
It’s nice to use a browser which doesn’t depend of extensions to block ads.
Microsoft Edge is literally Google Chrome button replaced with Microsoft Features/Spyware
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it’s very brave to say something like that here
True. Most of the negative comments about Chromium here are really obtuse. Looks like people feel the need to gain imaginary internet points by praising a mediocre browser made by a misguided Corp. such as Mozilla.
Save your time and avoid replying here. I wont’ reply back. I’m not interested in arguing. Just block me if you disagree and go on with your life.
people think of browsers and operating systems here like it’s a religion or something, it makes them crazy. google is a problem, but it’s not like mozilla isn’t going to pull the same crap when it gets big enough.
Let’s hope that Ladybird be better than Mozilla Firefox.
I would be curious if Ladybird is successful, maybe Microsoft, Apple or Brave will use it after leaving Chrome and WebKit.
Maybe, but even if it happens it’s going to take a lot of time. Let’s wait and see.
Why? Brave is amazing!
brave is built on chromium and it also has crypto stuff, so people here hate it
You can easily hide crypto stuff (which I do) and Chromium is great, just not Google Chrome, but the actual Chromium.
the problem with chromium is that because 98% of people use it, google gets to decide how the internet works basically
I get that, but alternatives suck. Firefox doesn’t even support all of the extensions I need.
Brave will support it until it becomes inconvenient or difficult to do so as the Chromium base keeps moving. The more time goes on, the more work it’ll be for Brave to maintain this forked functionality.
My guess is at some point Brave will discontinue V2 and say “just use the Brave inbuilt adblocker”.
Regardless, Brave have their own skeletons in the closet… crypto, the Windows installer installing other Brave applications during browser install without consent (that one is straight up malware behaviour. Reminds me of the days of software installing Internet Explorer toolbars without consent), injecting their affiliate links when nobody asked, a CEO who donated money to homophobic causes more than once.
E: my above theory was correct, sort of:
We will keep Manifest v2 for as long as it’s still available in Chromium. We expect to drop support in June 2025, but we may maintain it longer or be forced to drop support for it sooner, depending on the precise nature of the changes to the code.
They are only committing to enabling the disabled Mv2 code in Chromium. Once it’s removed altogether, Brave probably won’t bother keeping it and maintaining it. Basically, if you want Mv2, only Firefox and its derivatives are committed to keeping it.
None of these small browsers can make significant changes to the original project. A browser nowadays is a super complex bloated thing that requires too much resources to maintain. If even M$ abandoned their engine to go with Chromium (because it was probably costing them a lot of resources to keep compatibility with the evolving standards, security fixes etc.) what hope is there for small companies? Arguably Apple’s Safari has significant differences compared to Chrome, but we’re talking about Apple…
People thinking this is a solution are gonna get disappointed eventually. For now, Firefox is the only alternative product that has been maintained for decades.
Lol Microsoft really using their browser market share effectively
I’ve looked it up and apparently there’s a problem where if you open a new window with any amount of tabs and close it last, you will lose all your tabs on the first window. It’s a big no for me, because I already had to restore last opened windows in Firefox many times, and I am pretty sure you previously could just press
CTRL+SHIFT+Tand it did reopen them, although I might misremember things.Did they fix the issue of their license partially closed? Or is it still the same
Yes, actually, they made the source available again.
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Just discovered them yesterday and made the switch!
How painless is it to carry over everything from Firefox?
Was super easy but my setup is pretty minimal.
Export bookmarks from Firefox, install favourite addons in the Floorp extension menu and lastly import bookmarks.
Most of the settings will be familiar and some features will be new like the workspaces and sidebar.
Hope your transfer goes smoothly!
Just in case you needed another reason not to use Edge.
Chrome* or Chromium based browsers*
Right, you don’t need extensions, because you don’t need customization, because what you need is what we the corp say you need.
I think Web as it exists is a failed branch of evolution.
A networked (solved) hypertext (solved) document (solved) system - yes. A networked hypertext system with one or two unbelievably complex clients, where only enormous corps have enough resources to change something, - no. One can add steps - E2E encryption, dynamic services, scripts, all not requiring a monolithic piece of nonsense.
BTW, those hating Flash, I hope, do realize that its proper, paradigm-abiding replacement would be a FOSS plugin with similar goal, not what we have.
I feel similarly. Javascript was made to add some functionality to documents and now we’re basically running Doom in a word professor. I don’t know what a better system would look like, but I’d draw a line between document-type pages and pages that you want to do more on.
What’s Edge?
The browser you use to download Firefox
The thing you use once to download firefox, and then never again.
a chromium skin
They get you really close but stop just before finishing.
🥵
You don’t Edge?
Mine Linux don’t have it
Let me help you:
flatpak install flathub com.microsoft.Edge
Why would you do this to him
Because the best sort of shit post is one that’s also informative!
'nough said!
Does not elicit the image of iron.
Oh, it’s libre.
Amarok? That was my favorite media player way back when
Amarok is the other wolf. I know it looks deceptively similar.
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Looks like
They recently started developing it again, after being silent for a long time. They released Amarok 3.0 in April 2024 which migrated it to Qt5 and KDE Frameworks 5.
I was on Netscape in the 90s, I got on Firefox when it was still Phoenix/Firebird, and I haven’t left once. You’ve been a good friend.
(Though I do like Palemoon a lot since I love the pre Quantum and pre WebExtensions days).
Oh no, like I ever use Edgeplorer.
Ok
