Just some additional advertising for todays boycott.
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Exactly. Withholding consumption is not where our collective power is. Withholding Labor is where our collective power is. These “consumer power” movements are so incredibly capitalist brained. Our working class is so brain rotted by capitalism that they can only think of “power in the hand of consumers” which is one of the biggest most obvious lies capitalist tell.
I once read a quote by someone that went roughly like “Voting with your wallet means the ones with the biggest wallets get the most votes” and it has stuck with me ever since.
Boycotts do work. Starbucks has actually had to admit their sales went down due to the boycott. The problem is that these things take time and doing a boycott for a day or a week doesn’t really impact these corpos bottom line where they actually notice.
It’s different when targeting a specific business as that kind of boycott can continue indefinitely. A boycott against spending any money or going to any business can only last so long and therefore companies will see a downturn and then probably a spike in sales as people buy a bunch of stuff at once that they were planning to buy during the boycott. I agree with the other comments that organizing workplaces to eventually form the base for a real general strike would be a more effective strategy to actually hurt businesses.
again these are initial salvos. they will notice a massive dip for one day. there are other more targeted ones.
Ok, but what is a massive drop in sales? $100K, $1 billion, $1 trillion? Because Bezos makes $26 million per day, so for them to notice we need to create between $100 million to $1 billion loss, but also we can’t just go immediately back to normal afterwards because they are expecting this.
Its going to depend on the company. The main thing is when they present their powerBI graph that the dip is significant. This would be divisional as well because I believe most of amazons profits now come from aws but not 100% on that but they will have a team that talks just about orders from the site I assure you.
Yeah their sales went down, but did it change anything about the way they do business?
Not yet, but I don’t plan on stopping
Cool, just don’t mistake mobilization for actual organizing.
Shit, I wasn’t on here. Tell you what, make another Devil’s Panties Blackout in six months. We encourage people to stock up on canned foods that can be eaten later, and bathroom items, soaps, whatever. Friend groups are established for the blackout just in case somebody loses something. It might last more than a week, maybe even a month. We should post this in streamers’ chats to encourage people to spread the word; this will be on fun streams where it will not be intrusive. Make sure to target people who can remember to do things, or use it as an opportunity to help people to remember schedules. People will stay with each other to get along.
The comic has nothing to do with it outside of supporting it in todays comic. Here is a better reference for the actions https://moist.catsweat.com/m/[email protected]/t/880512/Upcoming-US-Protests
Thanks so much!
Donating to non-profits is still cool though.
Positive boycotts are the best boycotts.
Otherwise people just delay consumption.
Got food at the local donut shop. Ate lunch and dinner from a food truck. The real way this could work is if everyone does this everyday and avoids non local chains.
The poor get mud water called Tim Horton’s, as their rents double and they are forced to fund our government buying 50% of all mortgage bonds to reward existing asset holders.
Maybe if we rout out the corruption we can achieve a higher standard of living and allow productivity investment, so Canadians can afford nice coffee from a mom and pop establishment whose rents are also ballooning.
I don’t get this plan.
Even if people don’t shop one day, they will buy postponed items next day.
You are organizing the wrong thing, you need to build a platform and a troll farm.
As someone said in a different thread, it’s a first step in gauging support for a broader effort. It gives a sense of how effective getting the message out is, and how many people join on.
There is no way for anyone to gauge this. Retailers won’t release this data
If anyone is interested this was apparently started by a group called The People’s Union. I get that 1 day isn’t that impactful in the grand scheme of things, cuz it’s not. But it’s about organization. It’s about coordination.
Yeah sorry but I gotta go buy grape jelly today.
You guys buy things every day ?!
As a family. yes. Especially groceries but often enough other things. Thats not important though. The important part is 50% or more (assuming maga won’t participate) of folks that might get something today don’t so that the metrics shows a massive drop in activity for one day. Company metrics easily show stuff. I worked at one that did superbowl ads and you could see the effect of the ad on the site. This is the time the ad ran and this is how soon google searches trended up and this is when visits to the site went up.
Does seem a bit odd to me. I could fairly easily go for weeks where the only thing I buy is from Aldi.
if I was single I could see that but I do like to do more small shopping trips now buying fresh food. I don’t like the fridge being packed and I don’t like to be deciding if something is to old to eat.
Hardly need to go to the shops every day for fresh food though. Potatoes and cabbage last a while without any real change. Rice lasts essentially forever. Most fruits are good for several days at least.
works out best for us if we shop for that days or next days meals. also when I say fresh food I mean more greens, fruits, and such. I don’t really think of grains as fresh food because they last so long. Unfrozen meat to. Again though we want to use it well before bad so we like small amounts for the next few meals.
I’m not from America and the answer is still no
I wasn’t going to buy anything today anyway, easiest boycott I ever saw.
Ok I know about the other ones but what’s the bad stuff target did? Besides the general capitalistic crap.
Only thing I’ve heard about is cutting all their DEI programs.
That’s good enough for me
Todays is broad based. A drop out day. You will see folks making fun here saying everyone will buy the stuff tomorrow but that is fine. The ideal thing is the metrics show a massive crash in economic participation for one day. Todays lean systems rely on predictive patterns and it is a message even if they get it later. Messages like these can be powerful.
So the metrics show that our is it just wishful thinking?
no its the goal. We won’t know for sure until after today.
Who organizes this shit??? Can I learn about this ahead of time so I don’t see the post literally at 10:30 on the night of the same day??
Like literally
Do you know about the nationwide general strike on March 14th?
Who’s organizing it? Is the UAW involved? Last time I heard, plans for the next general strike including nationwide unions were set for 2028
Until I see the UAW, USW, AEU, ASFCME, or CAW get involved it’s not a general strike. Keep up the effort, but to anyone actually organizing these things you need to get large labor unions on your side. Otherwise no one will notice.
As someone with a french background, I’m laughing my ass off.
ive seen this promoted all over the place for weeks
Huh, guess I need to tweak my Lemmy feed then
FYI unfiltered “All” had plenty of it.
I appreciate the effort and am participating, but if we aren’t willing to be uncomfortable, this doesn’t really accomplish anything. We squeeze, they squeeze back, we buckle… What have we gained? Do it for a month and let’s see them sweat…
If you cant get people to do it for a day, you surely cant get them to do the planning necessary for a month.
In other news, do not use patreon, see if kofi is better for your interests.
What’s up with patreon?
Edit: a quick search showed the only recent controversy involved the banning of a few people for hate speech. On its face that doesn’t appear that troubling to me. Was the speech resulting in the ban not truly hate speech? I’m not sure exactly what was said but the implication in the article I read was the n word was used. And the explanation from the host for using it was he was using a critics own language against them. That explanation sounds a little suspect to me.
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I wish I had boycot money.
Don’t let anyone else buy you anything either.
I’ve been seeing maga dipshits saying that they will be buying more today and will enjoy the short lines, just out of spite. So if we all start saying we like shit they do, will they stop. Like reverse scycolgy? Could they really be that dumb?..please!
yeah of course there are going to be some of those but they are going to be the hardcore idiots rather than the leopards ate my face ones. at least presumably but who knows with these yahoos.
