Lists of crisis hotlines across the world: (Crisis Hotline) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_hotline#Telephone_counseling
(Helplines, Suicide Hotlines, and Crisis Lines from Around the World) https://www.therapyroute.com/article/helplines-suicide-hotlines-and-crisis-lines-from-around-the-world
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I hate that this took me till i was a father to figure this out. And even then my kids were in there late teens to twenties beforehand it really sunk in.
How can I expect my kids to open up to me if I won’t open up to them.
Never understood it all cause i’d sooner kill someone else than myself. Why would I kill myself? That seems strange. I would lose then, someone would win. Probably have some depression though, I mean I ought to have considering the theoretical state of things. No way I am gonna give satisfaction to anyone tho
No. I am going to eat my veggies, exercise daily to keep up my body as my temple, no drugs or alcohol and take care of myself. If only to show how much better I am than these fuckers. I will swim as they sink to the bottom. I will win and thrive at any price, at any cost. Some day I will drink tea on their graves, or just look at them with pity and compassion, throw some coin their way.
It is a dark souls game it all but you cannot just give up and quit to the desktop. no. we will crack that boss sooner or later and when we do, we will become more amazing than anyone can imagine. It is just a matter of time.
This is the view of someone who is slightly bummed out and not horribly depressed.
Some people have children murdered in war, damaged body parts, or people they love dead. Others have tried to date over and over, exercise and eat healthy, and are single virgins at 30 because no one finds them romantically attractive. Other people have extreme financial hardships while dealing with chronic incurable medical conditions like Huntington’s.
Don’t take this the wrong way, but for the people whose children were murdered in war, eating veggies may not improve things much.
The desire to thrive at any cost usually only exists when problems are theoretically fixable. You can’t bring back dead children, someone who has lost a body part and has chronic phantom pain isn’t going to become a neuroscientist and solve that problem while in chronic pain.
I feel like platitudes like that “Just overcome it bro. Exercise and veggies and grit” don’t help the majority of people with severe emotional problems. Once again, these ideas seem like ideas that help you, the reader of that post, feel better about depression existing rather than do anything for people who are depressed.
But I feel like you are in good company because it feels like 90 percent of mental health posts and slogans are really “Your depression is inconvenient for me and society and your possible suicide down the line may upset me. We support you! Call this number so we can lock you up and drug you, then bill you $30,000 and force you to work even harder while drugged up so we feel less annoyed about your ennui and sorrow.”
Like I get that your transitory sadness has been something you overcome with tech bro grit, but tech bro grit doesn’t overcome most reasons for severe depression that results not in brief suicide ideation but like getting to the stage of “What method will work best for me?” when people start buying tools to help them die or coming up with timelines and rewriting wills and debating whether to try to make it seem accidental so as to not harm loved ones.
I am glad you have grit and this works for you. Keep pushing. I just don’t like the messaging in society that feels like this needs to be a solvable problem because others are annoyed or saddened by it.
I get the sentiment with posts like this, but I hate them. They’re so disingenuous to me. If someone reads them and gains something positive from the message then good, but I just hate them.
This isn’t realistic.
I’ve dealt with depression before.
People will say they want to support you and want to know what’s going on. If you describe a problem, the person listening almost always offers a solution. If you start to explain why their solution won’t work, they almost instantly get super annoyed and may suddenly become unavailable the next time you call.
People want to think of themselves as the type of person who would be supportive of a depressed person, but most “supportive” people who feel this way still adhere to normal social mores and expectations and get pissed or annoyed when a depressed person doesn’t follow them. It’s also super hard for a depressed person to simultaneously discus their depression and adhere to unwritten social niceties.
If I as a depressed person keep my feelings to myself, if I get better I still may have friends and if I die at least some people may show up to my funeral. If I lean on non-depressed people for support, they will expect normal social responses that adhere to unwritten codes and will get annoyed, the result being for me at best fewer friends and at worst a cremation with no one who cares about the ashes.
Honestly fuck that tweet or whatever. Shit like that is bout making society feel better with corporatesque platitudes like “Mental Health Awareness is Important! See something say something!” or whatever empty cheerleading slogan exists to encourage the workers while the most poor of all rot on the street (unless they fall asleep, causing them to be arrested, whenceupon they are fed in jail). Most people do not give a fuck, that’s why a homeless subpopulation exists, fuck this planet and fuck empty tweets like this.
Thank you for expressing what I’ve never been able to put into words
Said nobody ever. Not blaming anyone. It’s just an observation.
I used to have a bunch of toxic friends in my 20s where someone goes “I’m struggling” and someone replies “Everyone is. Stop bringing us down.” That was the clearest way I saw that.
These days, I see it in different ways. The coworker that’s just TMIs and people give that look to them/tell them that this is a professional setting. Or during a check-in, someone goes, “Everything is great” and holding it all in.
I just don’t even know how to talk about it. I can’t describe the blackness inside
