• @[email protected]
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    614 months ago

    It’ll be interesting to see a character following the teachings of Jesus Christ, like

    • Luke 16:13 “You cannot serve both God and money.”
    • Mark 10:21 “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor”
    • Matthew 5:39 “If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.”
    • Matthew 5:44 “love your enemies”

    So there’s no chance the character will be a capitalist, troop-supporting, neo-Nazi. Right?

    • @[email protected]
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      One of my personal favorites:

      • Luke 12:46-48:

      46 the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know, and will cut him in pieces, and assign him a place with the unbelievers. 47 And that slave who knew his master’s will and did not get ready or act in accord with his will, will receive many lashes, 48 but the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of [d]a flogging, will receive but few. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more.

      Jesus sure loved his slaves, huh? Gives you guidelines on how to beat them. Told people to “love your enemies,” but clearly people you own don’t deserve that courtesy. He hung out with prostitutes, but was never able to disavow the practice of owning other humans as property? Kind of unacceptable imo.

      The canonical Bible (the supposed ordained word of god) also include’s Paul’s further interpretation of Jesus’ teachings on slaves in…

      • Ephesians 6:5–8:

      5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.

      Oof.

      • JackbyDev
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        Jesus sure loved his slaves, huh? Gives you guidelines on how to beat them.

        That passage you quoted is not giving guidelines on how to treat slaves, it is a parable using slaves as an example. Not saying the Bible is totally anti slavery, the second passage being pretty disgusting.

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          All he had to do was say, “don’t own people,” and yet…

          Not saying the Bible is totally anti slavery,

          The Bible is explicitly pro-slavery. It was literally used by slavers in the 19th century American South to justify and continue the practice of chattal slavery. They printed “slave Bibles” where all mentions of anything related to “freedom” were removed, and the focus was on teaching obedience and submission.

          What a thing for an “all-powerful” god to facilitate. Even if he were real and simply allowed his holy book to be used for such an evil purpose is enough for me to say “yeah, no thanks.”

      • 100_kg_90_de_belin
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        Do you think that Christianity became the religion of imperialism out of coincidence?

  • Queen HawlSera
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    Religion or LGBT is a false dichotomy and shit like this just fuels division.

    Fuck you Disney

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      134 months ago

      Yup. Disney doesn’t stand for anything. They just pander to wherever they think the money is.

    • @[email protected]
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      Priesthood was a religious answer for gay men historically, before more modern sects that are openly accepting. The modern non-denominational Christian churches are just cancer.

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      264 months ago

      Really hope Jesus makes his comeback via an appearance on RuPaul. The bible does say it will be unexpected.

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        The stories in the bible happened long ago. There arent any prophecies reaching into our age.

        • @[email protected]
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          44 months ago

          (Actual inquiry, I don’t know): Really? There is no rupture or some sort of apocalyse in the new testament?

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              As someone that doesn’t belive in the bible, the whole antichrist being nero thing doesn’t add up. Nero reigned from 54 AD to 68 AD while the book of revelation, the one with the antichrist prophecies and that was published in 95 AD. I’ve heard the explanation that it was code, but why would they have to have code for someone that died 27 years before they wrote the code?

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                  The gnostic nag hamadi also mentions the antichrist and that was written at least the 2nd century. Interestingly they say the antichrist will have a female likeness which makes sense if you entertain it because if the antichrist is meant to be the complete opposite of christ, why wouldn’t they identify as female?

          • @[email protected]
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            That’s what the heritage Foundation is trying to achieve, yes. Trump is playing the part of the antichrist, musk is the beast. I’m mostly concerned about how they interpret “lake of fire”.

    • @[email protected]
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      54 months ago

      Rainbow capitalism, I’ve looked into LGBTq+ forums, subs it hurts the community and movements more than it helps them

      • Queen HawlSera
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        See, I actually agree with a lot of people who say they hate “Woke Things”

        Because 7 out of 10 times, they’re just mad at Rainbow Capitalism trying and failing to pander to “t3h gays”, but for some reason believe that “t3h gays” asked for it, when in reality we did not… the other 3 times nothing’s wrong and “Woke” is just code for “There was a black guy who did something outside of be comic relief, but if I said that aloud people would call me racist… Which I am”

        • @[email protected]
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          its the studio execs pushing the inclusiveness, even the lgbq+ dont want it, but the cons that never watches these have been calling it woke. a great example is STD discovery, such a bad show, but everyone has been pointing how the female leads are boring asfm Kurtzman having an obssesion with pushing it for some reason.

          • Queen HawlSera
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            its the studio execs pushing the inclusiveness, even the lgbq+ dont want it,

            I still cringe remembering the trailer for Q-Force…

            “You can’t pander to the gays, they can smell it, you’re like citibank at Pride”

            Was an actual line in the trailer.

            I always thought it was bold of them to include the reaction of the janitor who was taking out the trash whilst overhearing the pitch…

            I have friends from all over the political spectrum, I’ve made a pyrrhic victory, a few of the right-leaning ones actually suddenly support trans rights now that the Republicans are basically treating us like Jews in Germany… the Pyrrhic part was it taking Iowa removing all civil rights from transpeople before they believed me that transpeople were the victims, not the perpatrators.

            One of them ranted and raved to me about how “LGBT People wouldn’t be in this mess if they hadn’t demanded Hollywood force in all these terrible woke characters into everything!”

            I had to explain to him the concept of Rainbow Capitalism and that we hated it to… He didn’t believe me until I gave him a link of Brendan Rogers mocking the shit out of it as his Bryce Tankthrust character… which I only recently learned was named Bryce Tankthrust, really thought it was Bryce Taintthrust this whole time.

  • @[email protected]
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    34 months ago

    Does this Christian character get made fun of all the time for being out of touch with reality? Is this why Kathleen is out, too much jesus? lol, probably not.

    • @[email protected]
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      Christians rarely get made fun of media, evangelicals will throw a fit. To give an example supernatural show had to shoehorn “God” as the original creator to non Christian gods and religions, the writers were afraid of the snowflake christians

    • @[email protected]OP
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      Yeah, “demonstrably” or “obnoxiously” would probably be much more accurate…

    • @[email protected]
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      I dont see how this is news there are millions of christians its not insane for one to show up in a disney movie, the trans argument is usually they are like .001% of the population but get more representation than the rest, I think its all stupid either way and the ppl making shit should be allowed to cast whatever fits their vision and not trends

      • @[email protected]
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        24 months ago

        No. Their religion was just a part of their character from the beginning. They didn’t have to “come out” as religious.

        The very notion that someone has to “come out” as Christian is an absurdity. Christians aren’t a persecuted group, although they would like you to think they were. They want so badly to be the victims, but they’re really the oppressor.

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    Better headline, “Disney toes the line for Nazi scum, and Walt himself was a Nazi sympathiser even after Kristallnacht. EPCOT was his fascistic wet dream. Fuck Disney throughout time.”

    • @[email protected]
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      Never heard of EPCOT before, quickly scanned over the Wikipedia article:

      what’s the problem of that theme park?

      • Brave Little Hitachi Wand
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        Before he died, the idea of EPCOT was to create his vision of an actual city, not just a park attraction. I read a quote from him about it that seems very much in the vein of Mussolini’s idea of fascism as the fusion of corporate and state power,

        “There will be no landowners and therefore no voting control. People will rent houses instead of buying them, and at modest rentals. There will be no retirees; everyone must be employed.”

        • Queen HawlSera
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          Oh yeah they actually did make that Disney Town, it was a dystopian nightmare and failed horribly.

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          Aahh, see? Now that is more problematic than the article about a folkloric world theme park I read.

          But it’s also not exactly new, company towns were already a sad part of our reality. Luckily we got over it, but rich people of course always want to get back to it.

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            We never got over it, they just use 401ks to control our futures now, and corporate owned housing is why rents are too high for us to do anything but work, eat, scroll, and sleep. If we stop to protest we’re in danger of homelessness.

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              At this point there are only two rational viewpoints on the world situation.

              1. The system is broken and needs to be fixed
              2. The system is working as intended and must be destroyed

              I aint exactly Robbie Rotten singing “We Are Number 1” if you catch my cold.

  • katy ✨
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    Well I did feel bad about pirating Agatha All Along but not anymore.

      • OBJECTION!
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        son

        Come on 😮‍💨

        She’s very obviously a woman, don’t call her “son.”

        Why tf am I getting downvoted? What’s wrong with people?

        • LousyCornMuffins
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          I mean I know a dude whose initials are KD[last initial]. He doesn’t like his feminine first name, so he started going by Katie. KD. He just can’t win.

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            Yes, but you can clearly see a woman in her profile pic, combined with a girl’s name, on a trans instance, and if any of that gives you pause enough to check her profile, you’ll find it says, “sapphic. hater of capital letters. bunny and cat mum.” Just because some random guy somewhere goes by KD does not make it ok to misgender someone who is very obviously a woman.

            Whoever downvoted this, come out and say it my face, coward. Fuck transphobes.

            • @[email protected]
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              I can’t recall ever seeing a single profile pic on Lemmy. Even when clicking on a username, all I see are posts, no profile. I honestly didn’t even know there was a profile to edit. I’m primarily on Voyager.

              No downvotes from me; just adding my experience to the conversation.

            • @[email protected]
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              Anyone browsing on most mobile Lemmy apps does not see profile pics btw, so people might be downvoting because “she’s very obviously a woman” is in fact not at all obvious to mobile users.

              I did not downvote btw. Am using Eternity Lemmy client.

              • OBJECTION!
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                There’s still the username. And the proper response to that situation is, “Oh, oops, I didn’t realize, let me edit my comment, thanks for bringing it to my attention.”

                If I can figure out a way to view who downvoted, I will be tagging them to call them out and name and shame. I find it completely inexcusable. If they didn’t know they were in the wrong, they wouldn’t be afraid to show their faces and explain themselves.

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                  I downvoted you. It’s because you don’t know how to discuss topics like an adult without arrogantly insulting people.

                  News flash: Despite what you seem to think- no one here is beneath you. You’re just a random person on the internet- just like everyone else.

                • @[email protected]
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                  104 months ago

                  I really want to down vote you because of your aggressiveness and off topic ranting but I’ll ask instead what about their username should tell me the user’s gender?

            • @[email protected]
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              54 months ago

              lol… you really need to pick a better hill to die on than this- “who downvoted me?! My words need to be respected!” crap. I downvote you all the time when I see you trying to get under people’s skin- which is more frequent than when you’re not.

              You aggressively argue with people and refuse to accept that others see the word differently than you do. And both your modlog and your comment history proves this.

                • @[email protected]
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                  44 months ago

                  How?

                  Let’s see… I don’t throw temper tantrums when people downvote me. That’s one difference. I also don’t give a shit what people online think about me enough to whine that people disagreeing with me. And lastly, there’s little I find less important than what method someone uses to type shit on an Internet forum.

    • @[email protected]
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      74 months ago

      Let’s be real no threat is needed. If this made them win craploads of money they would be plastering Disney world with transexual parades every second of the day

      The fact that they are not doing it says a lot

  • @[email protected]
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    324 months ago

    Disney be like: “Friendship ended with rainbow capitalism, now christian capitalism is my best friend.”

  • @[email protected]
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    224 months ago

    a shift in conservative culture

    independent poll that shows 34% being against a trans character

    conservative terrorists are the greatest threat domestically

    I guess Nazis saying “I’ll fucking kill you and your kids you woke traitor” and then Americans being afraid to participate in democracy does qualify as a shift towards conservativism.