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Call for boycotting US products spreads across America
I imagine that would be very easy, outside of software and digital services.
Even in Canada I’ve nearly managed.
Why outside those services? You really think it’s not possible yet?
I mean, I’m close, but I’m tech savvy and willing to just not be on the same social media platforms as other people. Even then, if I want to stream something without sailing the high seas non-American options are limited, although that of course might be different in Europe.
Fun fact, a lot of “American” stuff is filmed in Canada anyway.
Well, if content comes from Canada it’s just a question of server hosting. You refer to Netflix and co? That’s a wip everywhere I guess https://www.reddit.com/r/newfoundland/s/jkna5XzvxH
https://www.buy-european-made.eu/
https://european-alternatives.eu/
And for us Canadian, there is always https://madeincanadadirectory.ca/
Is there a ‘Buy African’ list? I wasn’t able to find one so far.
In South Africa, the law determines that if something’s labeled “Product of South Africa” it can’t have any imported ingredients (tho the packaging can be imported).
“Produced in South Africa” can have imported ingredients - and I’ve been boycotting almost all of that because of the omnicidal carbon footprint of importing things. It’s easier in this country to live ethically tho because we can grow almost everything we need: from food to textiles; tho our energy production is some of the most unethical in the world.
Interesting, thanks
Sig Jolly til din cola. 🥤
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Can you somehow add content to these lists? I think I didn’t see Galaxus (european Amazon alternative) on there anywhere :)
Thank you!
As a Canadian, I have no problem supporting our EU friends.
And to be honest, just looking at the list you can tell that the ethics within those companies are completely different than what you find with the American alternatives.
Even without a dictator leading the States, buying European would still be better. 🤭
Pretty wild, actually!
“Calls for Europe to stop eating garbage food like Americans.” Sounds like a good idea to me.
We have our own garbage food. If you don’t go to McDonald’s or Burger King, you can go to Hesburger or whatever else your region has. Admittedly still inspired by American garbage food, but profits European companies.
Hesburger? Interesting, I’ll have to look that up, haven’t heard of it.
Finland and Baltics mostly. It’s the biggest chain here in Estonia by locations (unless you count gas stations), but probably 2nd in popularity because McDonald’s seems more popular. Idk if they put crack on their fries or what, but it’s just not comparable.
Close, copious amounts of sugar
Like we arent doing that already
Boycotts echo louder than speeches; Haltbakk Bunkers leads by example.
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If you want to learn how to do successful boycott campaigns, you should look for the BDS Movement, that has worked to spread awareness to boycott companies affiliated with the illegal Israeli occupation and genocide against Palestinians.
And no surprise, you will find many US companies in there. Also it should come as no surprise, that the US wants to outlaw even talking about boycotts in many states, as well as corrupt European politicians like in Germany attacking the notion of boycotting companies involved with brutal crimes against humanity.
We need to join efforts in reducing the economic power of Imperialism, whichever shape it takes.
Awesome. I hadn’t heard of this.
Quick look at their website shows they’ve actually achieved some pretty great things.
This is a great example. You can’t just stop buying everything. Boycotting specific companies with specific demands is the way.
Sodastream? What did they do?
Looks like they had some facilities on palestinian land.
palestenian land my ass, fucking muslims are the biggest land thieves then you cunts want to cry when israel fucks you up.
Sodastream used to have a factory in the West Bank where they employed hundreds of Palestinians. Because of boycott pressure, they moved and hundreds of Palestinian workers lost their jobs.
BDS only cares about hurting Israel, no matter the consequences to Palestinians.
Sodastream have a nasty habit of looking for a vulnerable, oppressed population, building a factory on illegally stolen land, hiring a few of the locals for peanuts and then screaming that they are “helping” them.
Did it to the Palestinians in the West Bank and when that failed relocated it in land confiscated from the Bedouins. It’s in an artificial forced resettlement area where Bedouins have been forced to live in an Israeli-constructed town and industrial park.
It is an Israeli company that used to operate a plant in illegally occupied territory in the Westbank as well as mistreating Palestinian workers. It moved to a factory in the Negev desert inside the 1967 borders. The new factory however is part of displacing Palestinian Bedouins that live in the Negev. Also the mistreatment of Palestinian workers continued.
Ultimately of course all Israeli companies also pay corporate taxes which finance the Israeli executive such as Army, Police forces and Intelligence.
https://bdsmovement.net/news/“sodastream-still-subject-boycott”
https://www.cjpme.org/fs_244Illegally occupied? rather be quiet you clown this war started 1400 years ago when the stupid profit of Islam attacked the jewish people stop spouting stupid shit about occupied when muslims are occupying Armenia and genocide many christians for their land then you want to talk about occupied, you fucking degenerate.
It’s an Israel-based company https://www.cjpme.org/fs_244
Support your local breweries and buy their sodas and not coca cola <3 I do this and ngl Oettinger cola-mix and Riegele Spezi are amazing
Trouble with that in the UK is Coca-cola is the only soft drink really that hasn’t bowed to the sugar tax and changed their recipe to be full of artificial sweeteners.
I absolutely can’t stand the taste of these sweeteners and some even make me feel kinda of bad after drinking them.
Guess you found a market hole :)
To be fair the sugar tax is so ridiculously harsh there is nobody but Coca Cola who hasn’t made their drinks taste horrible instead.
Idk if it has even spread to England but when I lived in Scotland I only ever bought Irn-Bru
Sorry to tell you but irn bru went from god tier to pour down the toilet tier.
They did try to pull it back with 1911 version but it’s nowhere as good as it was before the sugar tax and completely uncarbonated and priced like it’s liquid gold.
It hasn’t? When I was in Manchester in January, anything except the cans had a bunch of artificial sweeteners in it, in order to lower the sugar content. I don’t know if the cans are a small enough size to skirt the tax, or just not be worth raising the price over, but bottles of regular Coke definitely had artificial sweeteners in them.
Apfel Schorle is much better than a Coke anyway
If you want to be that way: tap water is way better
Literally the only thing I miss about living in a Germanic country lmao
Absolutely nothing else? :O
Wdym? We have Apfelschorle
That’s my point, I don’t live in a Germanic country anymore and Apfelschorle (Rhabarbershorle too) is the only thing I miss
But you can get apple juice and sparkling water, right?
That’s kinda genius, I must try next time
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Ooooh. I understood it that you are in a germanic country and miss these things lol
Or just stop taking surgary junks
Some people want them. Dont live on just water like me. So better them drinking local things
I mean, there’s way more selection than just water that is still healthy.
I think the point is, go even further and stop. Of course they want it, those who buy it. Once I stopped drinking sugar drinks, they started tasting really bad when I tried them once in a while. Started preferring natural juices instead. Love my juices. Still sugary, but less processed.
We will play with squirrels instead of video games! And wear bedsheets instead of clothing!
Uhhh… I don’t think I will
it is not hard to do if it’s actually better. Spezi 🥰
This is the time for the Italian MoleCola to shine!
Is it coca cola with extra hair?
As a mexican I can say that this will be really hard, mexicans love so much Coke btw we have popular alternatives like red cola, but I’ve only seen masons consume that product
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This would help the American people fight the Oligarchs. Godspeed, friends.
Cancelled a bunch of subscriptions after trump support for Ukraine. Seems like the only language americans understand is 💸
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Our family Netflix subscription ran for over 10 years and yesterday I canceled it. I also canceled my subscriptions for discord, chatGPT, claude and dropbox. BOYCOTT U.S. SOFTWARE
Fuck us up, y’all!
Sincerely,
Ashamed American
You should be ashamed for the past 4 years.
In what way exactly is the current administration better?
In solidarity with you, brother.
– Likewise, an ashamed American.Will do traitors <3 Get an earthquake from all the ww2 vets and former presidents spinning in their graves from whats going on with you <3
Another terrible situation like Brexit - where the voices of many reasonable people are ignored. Feel free to come to Europe any time
I fully support this movement, but I expect it’s mainly an echo bubble and will remain as such. Leave the fediverse and subreddits and most people won’t even care.
The Canadian one has really taken off. Its not just on Lemmy. Im seeing more Canadian products on the checkout line than ever before and Ive even started seeing rotting American produce at our local store.
Everyone I talk to irl is limiting their US product purchases. Canadians are pissed.
Huh, would have thought American produce is too full of preservatives to rot
It is really taking hold. Honestly, we are not far from it becoming social stigma to buy American. Showing up with a Starbuck’s cup will get noticed.
Oh I do believe in this one! My response was rather eurocentric, I realize that now. The Canadians are even more hurt as it stands right now, and their response is incredible.
Perhaps I’ll see a greater response in my own community when the pointless tariffs also hit EU. Currently people are plenty pissed about US aligning themselves with Russia. It won’t take too much to ignite it further.
I do hope that I’m proven wrong, and that the boycott US movement is doing better than I thought 🙂
Wouldn’t say that, after Gaza people are quite used to boycott certain wares.
I know a lot of people irl which already don’t buy coke or eat McDonald’s anymore
My gf (who is not on the fedivere or any social media) came to me the other day and wanted to stop buying U.S products. Not that we really did before. Spendrups make better soft drinks than Coca-Cola and Pepsi anyway.
Oh that’s great though. I really do hope that I’m proven wrong 😊
Not to discount your perspective, but I think it’s important to also acknowledge the close connection that you have.
My spouse is much more tuned in to things like this than many of their peers, not necessarily because they have more interest, but because we have a close relationship and so we share stuff a lot.
Spendrups is a licensed Coca Cola factory. Make sure to check for any such shenanigans before buying Spendrups.
Sure they produce coca-cola under licence. But they’re not owned by them. They also produce Cuba Cola and Trocadero. Vastly superiors sodas.
Same, my wife and girlfriend told me about it before I found out here. Seems to be spreading on TikTok.
Are your wife and girlfriend on good terms? 😏👉💦
It’s a polycule, so yes. Like a standard relationship with two people, but it’s three.
Oh that’s great! I thought it was a typo, but people loving each other in whatever fashion suits them best is way better ❤️
I’m trying to think, apart from technology, what do I buy from American brands?
- American food doesn’t really come here except fast food franchises which I don’t frequent anyway.
- Nobody has an American car.
- My car’s electric anyway, so no American oil companies fueling it.
- Clothes are probably all from Asia anyway.
- I don’t subscribe to any streaming services.
- I’ll order 5 or 6 things from Amazon a year. So that’s easy to stop.
Sure there might be the odd brand that is unknowingly American, but I’m left asking “What does America export?” because I can’t think of much in my life.
This sounds great. But if you didn’t buy anything in the first place there’s also zero effect of boycotting. Then the movement can of course succeed quite easily, but at no net gain.
I feel like you tried to dodge the elephant in the room: the tech. The hardest part to get rid of is the technology, and in particularly the tech stack. Social media, servers, windows, outlook… The dependency is real at all levels, and I’ve yet to hear of any company trying to escape. This is also where I believe the boycott will fail at an consumer level, people will keep using META, stream from Netflix, order from Amazon etc. Since people are still using these, so will our companies and politicians.
Well exactly. Tech is about the only thing I can think of boycotting. I can certainly do services with little harm, but hardware is difficult.
Ah, now I understand!
That is a great point. It’s indeed really tricky to e.g., build a modern pc without American owned semiconductor companies when it comes to processors and graphic cards. There’s like… British ARM processors which isn’t really suited for most applications.
Arm isn’t even owned by Brits anymore. SoftBank has a majority holding in them (Japan)
A lot of supermarket food brands are American. You might be surprised if you start looking. Both my deodorant and toothpaste is from Unilever, for instance.
Unilever is English/Dutch so I don’t think they’re a concern.
Unilever is UK based and was UK/Dutch before that. Does it being a multinational make it American enough for you?
Hmm I guess I was misinformed. Unilever was included in one of those “boycott US” posts recently.
American cars are niche, but somewhat popular where I live. There’s 3 companies specializing in selling and servicing American cars here in Estonia that I can think of right away, but probably more in total. But the new American car sales aren’t very good because they’re all so massive and expensive, the only target audience is people who like to show off AND have a lot of cash (or a lot of them are company cars tbh, you can register a big ass pick-up truck as an N1 cargo van and spend less tax if you use it for personal purposes, compared to using an M1 passenger car for personal purposes. Somehow. I don’t remember the specifics).
I’d absolutely be buying myself a GMC Yukon Denali or maybe a Lincoln Navigator if 1) I was living in America with the wide ass roads and big parking spots, and everyone else driving big trucks too, 2) It had a V8 diesel available instead of the V8 petrol engine and 3) I had way too much money to spend.
There’s Chips from companies like intel and Software like Windows from Microsoft and Mac from Apple. Then there’s digital infrastructure like Amazon and social media, or even credit cards can come from the US.
It’s also not just buying software that supports the US but using it can too, because they can use their data for advertising and other goals. So you should move to open source alternatives for software that Europe doesn’t have any good alternative for (eg. Linux instead of Windows) or find a European alternative.
I already use Linux though. Don’t even drive and my bike is British. Most of the stuff we buy is German as we shop at Aldi.
Which is why I excluded technology.
Same link is on the front page of reddit.com
I’ve heard more about it elsewhere. It’s very real. It was on national tv news the other day, and some grocery chain is marking European products to help customers and such. I’m not sure how big the economic impact will be though. Where I shop, most stuff is already local.
Awesome! 🙂
Perhaps it’s me who is in a bubble IRL!
Even if the economic impact turns out to be negligible it is clear to me that the movement is born out of a change in mentality, which I’d argue is even more important then the monetary impact.
I’ve spent a fair bit of time in Denmark, small population with fewer news sources makes thing spread VERY quickly. Not to mention, they are very patriotic. I’ll ask some Danish friends about it and report back.
I know that my country - The Netherlands imports a lot from the US, so i am trying not to. Ditched all my Meta accounts, closed Amazon account/prime and Kindle, moved away from Google to several other services, stopped several streaming services and when we buy products from the supermarket actively check wheter products are from the US, and replace them with local/EU/Canadian products.
From Canada, I’ve done the same as you, but I’m struggling to de Google. Any suggestions?
GrapheneOS, CalyxOs or LineageOs as an alternative to just using android.
F-droid and Aurora store for almost all android apps, Obtainium if you can find your way around git forges.
Tuta mail, Posteo and other alternatives for Gmail.
Firefox and Thunderbird as replacement for Chrome and Gmail app
Duckduckgo/Ecosia(uses Microsoft’s Bing), Kagi(good but paid), SearX(free but you can run into limits quickly), Marginalia(nonpaid websites only) :- all are replacements for Google search, also learn to use search bangs to quickly take advantages of different search engine
i don’t use almost all of Google’s other products but a search would pop up other alternatives. Don’t forget to use Google Takeout if you have an account with them.
Goodluck!
Firefox and Mozilla to a larger extent may be going down the gutter soon. They have been angling towards AI shit, and then their new terms of service debacle this last week makes it clear they want to sell your data for ads.
I’ve moved from FF to Zen browser, which is a fork. And also Librewolf, another fork.
I appreciate it thanks! I’ve been using DDG and fire fox for a while. I’ll have to look up this Google takeout. Thanks again for the tips!
Google take out worked for me to export all my google foto’s so i can save them somewhere else! I was using firefox as well, but moving now towards Librefox, duckduckgo browsers. I also like Vivaldi but not sure how good it is on the privacy meters :)
I wanted to use GrapheneOS, but only they only officially support Pixel.
That means people have to pay Google upfront before deGooglingBuy the phone second hand? At least your money isn’t going directly to google
Awesome I love the visuals!
Love the irony that this is hosted on reddit
You could use services from the foes of USA like yandex and baidu
The usa is making plenty of foes.
Pretty satisfied with kmail/infomaniak
Switched from Protonmail (after being a paying email/vpn/drive customer for 5 yrs) to Fastmail. Couldn’t be happier - if you have a 1Password account you get a discount and via the integration with 1Password it auto populates masked emails for discardable logins - same as SimpleLogin for protonmail.
- Protonmail (i know it gets a lot of backfire on lemmy) and tutamail for mail
- Proton drive for google drive
- for travel i use TomoTom Go (amigo is free)
- Duckduckgo and librewolf as browsers
- Qwant and Ecosia as search engines
good luck, and don’t flame me for using Proton lol
Won’t flame you for using proton. I’m concerned personally because of the CEOs stance, but it’s not worse than Google, and is probably at least a bit better
I don’t find it important what the CEO might or might not believe (and he does not seem to be connected to anything MAGA). If the business and servers are located in the EU I feel much better than if it’s held by Google or Microsoft.
Besides, officially, Andy Yen is a strong supporter of data privacy and outspoken regarding the need for a stronger European tech sector, even going as far as calling Europe “and colony of USA” because of our dependence on US tech.
I found this an interesting read on it: https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e
Gotten rid of nearly every US digital service I have. Physical stuff I will still probably roll with my Apple devices until they wear out since they’re relatively new, but almost all the data and apps are basically European and/or open source services. Work related stuff remains the challenge. Next phone will be HMD.
