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Summary
The White House has directed the State and Treasury Departments to draft a proposal for lifting some U.S. sanctions on Russia as part of Trump’s effort to restore ties and end the Ukraine war.
The proposal could ease restrictions on select Russian entities and oligarchs, though it’s unclear what the U.S. would receive in return.
Trump has signaled openness to sanctions relief despite previously threatening harsher measures.
Talks between U.S. and Russian officials have intensified, with economic cooperation, including rare earth minerals, emerging as a key topic.
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Watch how many US companies immediately get right back in there, like flies on shit.
Many of them never left.
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Word has changed since cold war u know.
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Commenting on every post licking trumps balls
I disagree with Trump on many things, just not Ukraine Russia
“I put at least some minimal effort into looking like I don’t just fantasize gargling their balls. Even though I do.”
Which has nothing to do with anything, but I bet it sounded cool in the goo in your numbskull.
Yeah, note instead of Russia being a communist authoritarian hellscape, it’s a capitalist authoritarian hellscape.
Very different
Isnt that what us is? Capitalist authoritarian hellscape?
That’s why they get along so swimmingly
That’s certainly the trajectory Project 2025 wants to really drive home. That’s not exactly a defense of Russia.
Trump is so l still a Russian asset. Doing russias bidding
The only thing that hasn’t changed since then is Russia
This is a total lie. there is no sense to keep funding stupid usaid propaganda - it keeps population dumb
it keeps population dumb
You mean dumb like all those Trump Musk supporters ? Or dumb because educational programs have been defunded, and fed by social media and classic media controlled by the rich men having power ?
Well Russia was doing all this same stuff back the too so I’m not really wrong. They certainly aren’t more peaceful these days.
Both Putin and Trump are 80s relics and so it matters little how much the wor[l]d has changed, the cold war facet applies to the blindly pro-russian stance of Trump.
Of all the stances to take, this one is insane. Almost every violent conflict has shades of gray, nuance rather than unambiguous good and bad. The Ukraine-Russia conflict is one of those supremely rare straightforward ones where Russia is just straight up the bad guys.
If china is about to kill you economy, who gives a damn about Russia?b
And u clearly have no historical knowledge of that conflict.
Well yeah, it’s part of o365 now.
Yes, but Russia (or at least Putin) hasn’t.
He came into power almost a decade after the Cold War ended, so I don’t get what you mean
You’re an idiot then. He was literally a KGB agent. This isn’t even hard to find information, if you Google him it’s on Wikipedia you’ve done literally zero research.
Oh so being a KGB agent is being the president, got it. Who’s the idiot again?
Does this need to go through congress?
Only if Congress specifically passed the sanctions. Usually it’s a bill that directs the president to sanction people fitting a description. Which effectively makes it a decision for the president.
I doubt that will make much of a difference what with both houses being controlled by the GOP.
The house’s majority is slim enough that 2 defectors are all that’s needed.
Zero faith in these bootlickers.
though it’s unclear what the U.S. would receive in return
Unclear to who? It seems to me that Trump wants to gain the favor of Putin. Why is this unclear? Is the Guardian too afraid to make this accusation? For someone like Trump that is always looking out for himself, it’s unlikely he’s doing this out of the kindness of his heart.
When Ukraine’s president surprisingly shifted towards Russia, the people engaged in civil disobedience until there was a new president.
What will the US do?
A US backed coup is not “civil disobedience” lol
Shut the fuck up Ivan
kindly, Fuck off.
A couple of suspicious sounding phone calls intercepted from an embassy, when every embassy in the country was having their own discussions about their preferred outcome to the collapse of a government, do not influence millions of Ukrainians who know their own country and government, to take to the streets in a riot over being betrayed over something they voted for.
I mean, where is the guy hiding right now? Where is Zelensky?
Sounds like thats the Ukrainian SBU’s business, and no one elses.
you’re asking the location of a world leader who has had countless attempts on his life and is actively at war. Do you normally ask stupid rhetorical questions?
I meant Yanukovych ran away to hide in Russia at the first sign of trouble and Zelensky stayed in Ukraine even with bombs falling on Kyiv
Nothing. 50% of the country loves their strongman president more than freedom or common sense
Less than a third of eligible voters voted for Trump.
Less than less than a third voted against him.
“In reality, there is no such thing as not voting: you either vote by voting, or you vote by staying home and tacitly doubling the value of some Diehard’s vote.”
~ David Foster Wallace
70% of Murca voted for him.
So you’re saying those who didn’t vote love him? How does that make sense?
I’m saying they voted tacitly in agreement with everyone that voted for him. Whether they love the man doesn’t matter. They supported him by voting with their asses.
I was originally replying to the post above that said: “50% of the country loves their strongman president more than freedom or common sense.” And I was specifically disputing the 50% figure in regards to “loving” Trump. So you’re arguing something else entirely.
It’s an important distinction because falsely claiming that half the country loves Trump legitimizes his authoritarian rule.
I understand what you’re saying. I also dispute the 50% number.
I’m saying only 30% of the country voted for him, 30% against, and 40% voted with their asses, making the effective amount of “love” 70%, not 50%.
Approval rating of ~50% notwithstanding, he has a 70% mandate to fuck shit up when we have 40% ass-voters.
And the other 50% thinks that the best avenue for social change is to attack people who don’t like the latest Disney movie.
Oh look, another Trumper obsessed with culture war issues that no one else cares about… I’m so surprised.
Exhibit B.
You’re framing that as a difference in taste when in reality it was a difference in having shitty bigoted views or not. Haven’t you fuckers muddied the water enough?
Exhibit A.
Does anyone else remember the 2016 debate with Hillary Clinton where she accused Trump of being a puppet for Putin, and he interrupted “No puppet, no puppet! You’re the puppet!”
Or when Alnur Mussayev, the Russian officer who served in the KGB’s 6th Directorate in Moscow, said that Trump was recruited as a Russian agent in 1987, under the codename “Krasnov”, when he went to Russia for a “real estate project”.
Remember when the SS lost all of their communication records from Jan 6th?
Europe please be ready. My tea leaves are pointing towards the use of nuclear weapons in Europe while the us is distracted with civil unrest.
I’ll keep saying it till we are all on the same page
somebody tell me when did America and Russia become allies? i think i missed that part of history class
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*November 8th, 2016
Republicans have always loved Russia and the Commies right?
oh you see Russia is actually, and Im being 100% serious when Im saying this, a bastion of capitalism. its the end result of capitalism.
its just the crony capitalism where society has regressed into a class structure with peasants, nobles, and all of that.
Is there another form of end stage capitalism?
Uh, very briefly for 4 years between 1941 and 1945, and then more or less at war at all other times of history.
Officially? Jan. 20, 2025
Prem’yer-ministr Ameriki Trump
Does this mean Russia won the cold war
pretty much, they switches thier strategy to using propaganda and bribing since the 80s;.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
In the Americas, United States, and Canada:
-Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke “Afro-American racists” to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should “introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics”.
Fuck man…kinda feelin that way ey?
though it’s unclear what the U.S. would receive in return.
Trump already got what he wanted, what even is this statement?
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4D chess right here, put economic stress on our allies, but try to help out our enemies.
If we dont know what we are doing, the enemy certainly cant anticipate our future actions!
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About 30 percent of Americans are treasonous cunts and the others have no idea what’s happening
Trump is malicious. Most Americans are just plain ignorant.
Ignorance has consequences tho.
And oh boy aren’t we seeing that right now
Only 22% voted for him, and a large portion of those fall into the ‘no idea what’s happening’ camp.
Just wait. In fucking Russia, civilians are not allowed to own an AK-47, AKM or any military based rifle. To take complete power, Krasnov will need to stomp on 2A.
I think Trumpism does not need to take away guns thanks to the correlation between Trumpism and gun ownership. Why would they disarm those who support them and carry out their wishes with a degree of plausible deniability, as in January 6th?
There is some correlation but many marginalized and left-leaning folks (if not outright leftists) seem to be arming themselves, based on my observations at least.
Given how things are going a fair number then probably won’t be card carrying Trump supporters for much longer. They’re already pretty pissed off with him.
Because ultimately, those armed MAGA people’s faces are just too delicious for the leopards to resist. There’s already been discontent that they aren’t seeing the improvements they wanted, and some of them directly getting screwed by Trump and Musk.
As good as that would be and as much as I desire it, my impression is that too many of them are trapped in a disinformation bubble to realize what and who is actually causing their problems. Some might, like the former Republican who shot at Trump and the veteran who blew up a Cybertruck, if I understood their motivation correctly, but I doubt such incidents will ever reach such a scale that Republicans reverse their entrenched stance on gun ownership.
The moron that tried used an AR-15 which shoots a tiny little bullet and not the appropriate calibre. If he had known anything about ballistics we wouldn’t be dealing with this.
Also, don’t aim for the head. Jesus. Aim for the chest.
Doesn’t work when the target is wearing discreet body armor, and the impact has to be instantly lethal. Trump isn’t, going to bleed out (they pre-deploy emergency services to large events) Even a lung hit isn’t going to kill fast enough. So center mass become “pretty much heart only”.
Shooting for the head and neck is pretty much the only option in that scenario.
And why only one shot? Keep pulling that fucking trigger.
Crooks did keep shooting… He killed one person and hit a few others.
That event was staged, look at Krasnov’s fucking ear. No scars!
You underestimate plastic surgeries
That’s what you get with a bad education system.
I was taught how to consider bullet velocity and trajectory by the government when I was 20.
You probably also were taught to use at least a 30 calibre bullet like the M21 (which is what the Secret Service used to return fire)
I wasn’t being trained as an assassin.
Choosing the calibre wouldn’t be my prerogative.
What we were shooting with was just 7.62. Which now that I check equates to a .30cal actually. Never knew that, huh.
I did handle some .50cals, but not a sniper rifle, and I don’t know how sneaky I could be with a tripod mounted .50cal AA machine gun.
Tldr basic conscription but I did go the longer way voluntarily and am an NCO. I just recalled some basic ballistics lectures from your comment.
You don’t have to be sneaky, just not fucking miss like the gormless cretin that last tried.
I mean, if you’re not sneaky and you’re setting up a .50cal turret where they’re holding a speech from POTUS, I’m pretty sure someone would have some notes on that.
I mean I’m Finnish, not American and I do understand American gun culture is pretty liberal, but is it that liberal?
Edit but oh boy would I fucking love to open up on that cunt on a stage. CHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOK
But he missed because the bullet he used was too small and too light and didn’t have a proper ballistic trajectory
5.56 effective range out of a 16" barrel is 500 yards. Trump was a mere 400 feet from Crooks.
“Brandon Webb, a former Navy SEAL and the former head instructor of the SEAL Sniper course, said a well-trained shooter could shoot very accurately with an AR-15 at the distance at which Crooks shot Trump, especially with a magnified optic such as an ACOG sight.”
Dude missed. The weapon and projectile are more than capable of delivering an accurate and lethal hit at that distance.
TL: DR, Skill issue.
The AR bullet is less than one third the weight and much smaller than the 7.62 round which is why I said it was a shitty choice (and specifically why we still use Korea era armament to this day in the M 21, and 60, mini gun etc (NATO 7.62).
NATO 5.56 Is for ground troops and is designed more to incapacitate
7.62 and 5.56 is basically just a choice.
Thats what made us Finns joining NATO so hard (as in a side from all the politics and just practical matters), because we use 7.62 for all ground troops, especially because Russia uses it as well and wed like to be able to scavenge their ammo if they try any special military operations this way.
We’ve fucking tons of our own make of a AK variant, the RK. RK62 is decent but the sights are shit, RK95TP is awesome. That was my main weapon, had to keep a -62 for 2 months when I was in a poorer regiment for trainining. (Their boots sucked as well everyone from our brigade got a permit from the doc to wear holiday boots for normal service because they were just so much more comfy, like walking on air vs walking in glass.)
That 7.62 is not the same as NATO 7.62. The AK round has the diameter but not the length, weight or amount of gunpowder.
You are right that it doesn’t matter that much compared to 5.56, for a battle rifle, but NATO 7.62 is much more powerful and weighs a shitload more. It’s what I use to shoot 700m (and as I said above what US special forces still use as the standard sniper rifle M21)
Russia has been using 5.45 since the 70s (The ones with the brown magazine instead of black). I know the Czech SAR models were available in 5.56x45, 5.45x56, and 7.62x39 (NATO is 7.62x51)
No he was well within range for a 5.56. the problem was his scope wasn’t sighted in correctly and he sucked at shooting. https://youtu.be/ulh88aBI0iU?si=_ZJAgSCRon2MX-sU At about the 5 minute mark he gets into the incorrect zero.
Just because it is in range doesn’t mean it’s appropriate
It was the wrong calibre for what he was doing. The wrong platform for his objective.
I can but 4” clay pigeons at 50m with a 9mm pistol but I should use something else.
Idk man it was less than 200 yards. The military does qualifications out to 500 with the same caliber. Right after it happened every journalist was out there saying it was an impossible shot, which it wouldn’t be for a reasonably skilled shooter. If you look it up most folks are saying 5.56 is effective out to 600 and a skilled shooter can group at 1,000 or more.
Idk why I’m arguing about this the kid was a useless shithead, just wish he’d done better I suppose.
And red voters will still find ways to deny that he’s Putin’s little bitch boy
Whether or not he’s a Russian asset is ultimately irrelevant. All that matters is that he is acting like a Russian asset. He’s doing everything a Russian asset would do. So it doesn’t actually matter if Putin has kompromat on Trump, because he is clearly willing to act like an asset even if he’s not.
Did he run out of fucks?
He ran out of the need to hold elections
He probably did, but right now all that matters is putting out all the international fires the US is starting, or at least preparing to survive them.
This feels suspiciously like traitorous activity.
Is it because of the way it is?
