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It is hard to give up on Reddit because of they have the size/traffic advantage. If enough activity occurs on platforms like this over time, more will be tempted to jump ship.
I would add that the explosion of third party apps is going to be huge as well. The whole decentralized/multiple instance can be a bit challenging for some. Giving use an app that behaves like the old Reddit apps will ease the transition.
They should add an option to the third party apps for Lemmy to enable ads that support your instance and the platform. Force me to use your bullshit app so you can make more money? Fuck you. But I’d opt in to ads to support something that is clearly better.
People downvote cause seeing ads is annoying, but IMO, if it is done tastefully it is the only viable way to pay for the infrastructure, and it would prevent a collapse of the system.
Or simply allow people to donate to their instances. Why does everything have to be done through ads?
My home instance put up a donation request because they had to upgrade the servers. They got enough money to cover costs for the rest of the year in less than a week.
Reddit used to do the same thing, have donations to cover costs. Ads are evil, and as a society we should be pushing back against them, not encouraging them at every opportunity.
Sure… If donating wasn’t a pain in the ass to do due to payment methods being different across countries.
I have a few projects I wouldn’t mind donating to, but as Patreon uses PayPal it is just more trouble than it is worth
PayPal is a no-no from me too. I’ve given them so many chances. When I was younger I once sold everything of value I had on eBay in order to purchase a microphone & headphones to record music. Upon payment, PayPal immediately froze my account for 6 months and wouldn’t give me access to the funds. I was flat broke and had actually gone into the hole even deeper by paying to send off all of the packages, expecting to get the $ from the items asap. Those were my last dollars. Didn’t even have gas $ to get to work. So PayPal froze the $300 ish I was supposed to get and I lost my job. Then for 6 months couldn’t sell anything else, why would I? They’d taken everything OR be paid and it really fucked me up. Called them constantly and did everything they asked to verify but it still took 6 months of waiting after I’d done everything I needed to. After that I didn’t use them for many years. Finally tried again and had similar issues fuck PayPal.
I don’t use PayPal cause it doesn’t accept the most convenient method of payment of my country
We need to be boycotting ads. If it’s not for a vital service don’t push it in my face. Ads are a damn plague and the internet was better before they permeated it.
Everyone that was on the internet pre-2010 knows this. What amazes me is some have been brainwashed to support them.
Commented about how YouTube should revert and become ad free once. People dogpiled me with “then how would it run?!”
Idk, how did it ever run before implementing ads?
How did… almost any site get by before ads? Donations or just not being “big” enough to require so much. If you have a good site that people value they will pay for it.
If you’re trying to sell something that no one really wants? Well that’s why we have ads now isn’t it? Companies trying to sell some bs no one asked for.
I don’t get why more people don’t just use ad blockers. The Reddit staff wouldn’t even know what’s happening until it’s too late.
I only go to Reddit now because of one or two forums that don’t exist on here yet, But the more I see stories like this, the more I’m inclined to just say screw it and nuke my account.
I didn’t get any! I got it for the Private sub before. I demand my blackmail from modcodeofconduct. I should send some “FuckYouSpezs” around and see what happens. If anyone from Reddit monitors this, the sub in question is /r/mushing
lol i think reddit is fucked
You think?
So let the admins have to figure out new mods for all these huge subs. It’ll be a shit show. Either they’ll have to pay internal people or they’ll get people that can’t mod for shit.
It’s a shame how shabbily reddit’s board and u/spez (and his lackeys) have treated reddit’s users and mods. They benefited enormously from free content and hours of unpaid moderation, yet they chose to throw it all away.
This screams “Please stop this and go back to doing work for free.” They keep threatening but know they need the free labor.
Them replacing mods is what scares me the most. My subreddit is for advice for stretching piercings. If I continued to protest or even outright deleted my subreddit, and they restored it and replaced the mod team, what quality of moderating should I expect? Like I get it on meme subs, not hard to moderate that sort of content. But I know damn well they aren’t going to get people with experience relative to the more specific subs.
I get that, and respect it very much. You care about others and the community you’ve helped create. But Reddit is now actively exploiting that care for their own profit. Reddit draws value from your community and the advice it offers others. If that advice is poor then yes, people will suffer, but that’s on Reddit for allowing this all to happen how it has, not you.
You can never delete a subreddit once created. Ever. That’s why many are editing, then deleting, their comments.
The best you can do is to create a community on Lemmy and invite your redditors to the new community.
That’s where we are now, the migration has begun. But now, I’m stuck with a foot on each boat while I spread the word.
Exactly. And it’s driving me crazy how many mods are caving. Like, I get that you care about the community and want it to continue on, but will it even be the same now that you know how little control you actually have? Will it survive the next insane, profit driven decision Reddit makes and refuses to negotiate on? Just rip the band-aid off now like /r/interestingasfuck and others did and let them remove you. We’ve seen that they can’t actually replace what was lost, so let them try.
“But if I lose my fragile grip on this iota of power, I’ll have nothing, and I’ll BE nothing. I can’t start over again from nothing!”
I strongly believe that that is exactly what is subconsciously going on there. The human mind is addicted to power, no matter which form.
I never really thought about it but I totally see which mods were actually protesting and which mods used it to “protest” and add some spice to their mundane non-medieval memes
Power over something is appealing to humans. I notice it in myself as well.
If you look around in general, at all different human communities and situations, you will see how it manifests itself almost everywhere. In the government bureaucrat that lets someone wait just because they can. In the child that takes another child’s toy even though they don’t even want to play with it themselves. In the teenager that participates in mobbing. In the owner that overly scolds their pet. In the politician that doesn’t have any values and just says whatever is necessary to get votes. In the parent that tries to make their child behave in a certain way. In the boss that micro manages their employees. In the community moderator that can ban anyone they please.
I could keep going.
Power is a means, but it is very often also just an end. I think it’s really important to be aware of that, because power just for power’s sake is imo one of the most dangerous state of minds one can have.
Oh yeah I probably didn’t articulate my point well enough because I need more coffee but for better or worse power is… well… empowering and there’s both good and bad examples of this. I also think some of the users were too defeatists about it saying we can’t change anything and to that I say, “it’s not about the
moneychanging stuff, it’s about sending a message”. But when that message is r/memes going “oh unm ok we’re gonna protest by making all our memes medieval TAKE THAT REDDIT!! Please don’t remove us.”Looking back I saw which mods used their power for the better to drive a community they cared about and which were more in it for the power
Using a game I play r/planetside may not be the best example but it’s a decently niche game. By indefinitely blacking out our toxic little echo chamber ultimately had a ton to lose and very little to gain given the odds of protests succeeding. Given how our community wasn’t massive I’d bet it’s still blacked out. But despite us always flaming each other and developers I think the mods cared becuase they didn’t cave on their community and go “post planetside but add a cat to the corner that’ll show Reddit how mad we are”, no, they shut down and I’m still looking for a stable planetside community but they stuck to their guns
I kinda went on a rant and forgot my point was so I’m just gonna end here
but will it even be the same now that you know how little control you actually have?
Some communities weren’t even the same anymore after those 48h protests. And you can basically feel which parts of the community instantly left the moment they realized all that talk about protesting was bullshit and it was purely symbolic.
TBH I Don’t care about reddit now, I’m more into lemmy or squabble now. If its user base grows or declines I Don’t care, I’m out of reddit and I’m not going back.
Honestly stopped caring about Reddit years ago. Mostly just used it to keep up to date on game releases. As long as I have a community-ran source for gaming news, I’m pretty happy.
Yeah after getting used to the not-totally-assholes community of lemmy I’m not going back to reddit. The community there kinda sucks
You have been banned from [random large subreddit] for pointing out something that threatens the hivemind POV.
Honestly, that was my biggest problem with the community. Granted, that’s great when someone is being a genuine asshole, but over the last decade or so, it has become a little ridiculous.
Reddit decides to “crack down” on the protests instead of realizing that it’s all because they’re being jerks.
Don’t really care what they do anymore tbh.
I agree. A part of me just wants to see Reddit completely death spiral because that means, people finally stood together for something and made a huge difference. That doesn’t seem to happen in my country so seeing it happen to Reddit gives me some hope that people do actually stand up for their beliefs somewhere!
I wonder if public freakouts was told to remove the NSFW tag. That sub definitely should have been NSFW all along.
My sub did switch to NSFW after the API change, but its definitely one that qualifies to have been NSFW the whole time, as its a subreddit that features stretched piercings, including all types of genitalia. In our ‘Final Warning’, reddit claims that our sub doesn’t qualify to be NSFW, proving that they didn’t even check the content within.
NonCredibleDefense is also in that situation. Often the popular posts are literal war footage including death or sexual assault. Recently they changed it back to SFW to comply with reddit’s request. Regardless of the content of each individual post, that subreddit as a whole is not appropriate for minors given the very nature of it.
He’s taking marching orders from Musk now to maximize IPO time, gonna be no walls to any content - except to ban anybody who thinks saying racial slurs is tacky and outdated.
Speaks to the general fragile ego of the mods of these protesting subs that they are mostly caving to Reddit’s threats rather than just walking away. Two of the three mentioned subs in that article reverted back “for the community.”
Walking away just leads to the mods being quickly replaced by people who will un-nsfw subs and keep them in the same state they were about a month ago… the good mods are doing their best to not be replaced by such a situation.
Will they though? r/interestingasfuck has been modless for 17 days. Same for other subs where the mod team has been nuked after them. Seems like it’s not as easy as we expected.
I doubt many people are lining up to mod these subs. If the current ones walk away I think Reddit will quickly realize how incredibly fucked they’d be as a company without the constant volunteer work done for them.
Why would they not want to be replaced? Is there a point to stay under the new rules? I see no value in staying on reddit.
Sunk cost. Some of them have been there since the 2000s moderating the same subreddit. It’s hard to walk away from that sort of time investment.
I hope they like their strict editorial control they’re enforcing… I’m sure that doesn’t do anything to affect their Section 230 protections.
People still use Reddit?
Just bots trying to prove the dead internet theory is real.
The grand majority of reddit users have more in common with tictok users than forum users. The lowest common denominator is the biggest user base.
They doom scroll and satisfy their addiction, many are kids, they really don’t really care about information manipulation, quality content, discussion quality…etc
So they will stay, and the niche groups, those that care and contribute in quality ways, tend to be pushed out.
I think it sure is interesting that data vampires exist but that they also don’t care about the quality of their food.
I bet there are hundreds or maybe thousands of these data vampires on here right now scrolling and searching for the text and image based content they use to sustain themselves.
They live amongst us.
edit: this is not sarcastic, but playful
They don’t know what good food tastes like, so they are content.
“This is your final warning, please migrate to FOSS platforms”
