Found this notification this morning on my pixel 6.
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Mullvad is really for anonymous sessions. It’s meant to blend in with every other Mullvad instance on the Net so it helps make users harder to identify. It’s not geared towards daily use.
On desktop, I switched to Librewolf and installed the Dark Reader add-on.
I will continue using Firefox on Android because I have absolutely no illusions about my privacy on this fucking thing.
GrapheneOS is pretty good, as a more private alternative to Android, though the downside is that it’s only available for Pixel phones. I bought a used one on ebay.
I wonder if Square would still work, for example? I haven’t flashed open source ROMs on my phone since like 2012.
Honestly though, I just consider the phone a lost cause when it comes to privacy & use it accordingly. Uncle Googs is always watching, even when the damn thing is turned off.
the thing about degoogled OS is lack of SafetyNet support and it is important for banking apps.
FWIW, banking apps work fine on GrapheneOS.
if you mean this list that is quite concerning because each individual have difference banking preferences and it looks like it depends on the bank to support GrapheneOS directly But, I don’t think they bother because low market share (https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps)
The bank doesn’t need to manually support GrapheneOS, the app just needs to behave appropriately - which, as you can see from that list, the overwhelming majority of them do.
If my bank stops supporting it, then I will move banks. But I doubt it will ever really become an issue.
Thx, that’s exactly my concern as I remember it being an issue when I was flashing ROMs in the past.
Fine. I preferred Fennec over the two for quality of life and ease of use balanced with privacy.
It doesn’t exist on Android AFAIK, so it’s irrelevant here.
Are you aware of Firefox’s changes to their privacy policy that has been in the news the past 2 weeks? If not you can easily find articles and youtuve videos on it.
You should just post the articles and videos.
Or I was busy and gave a quick and still helpful response
They have been posted.
Edit:
Don’t call me unless I gave you my number
Why would anyone here call you, and how would they even have your number in the first place?
That’s why I’m posting this 🤷♂️
I didn’t mean it to come across as insulting or anything. I meant it all genuinely to be helpful
Do they mean “Firefox can get your location data to pass on to pages you give permission to, who we cannot guarantee won’t share it with advertisers” or “Firefox reserves the right to do a deal to monetise the tantalising firehose of location data coming from your device unless you specifically opt out”?
Who can say
The former, but the language looks vague enough that they could do the latter eventually. My understanding is that they have to be vague in the language for legal reasons (e.g. to appease regulators in various markets).
As of the latest Chrome update on PC, they have dropped support for uBlock. You can still technically enable it, but they disabled it by default once you update.
That got me back to Firefox with breakneck speed.
Frankly speaking, calling out Google and Chrome, then moving to Firefox while Mozilla have been doing it’s best Google impression for years now is not that great of a plan.
I wonder how long Firefox will be ok with all that, since Mozilla bought that advertisement business a while ago.
The main problem is that building a web browser is extremely difficult and everyone else uses Google’s version of WebKit. So there’s no alternatives: it’s either Google or Mozilla. Forks don’t count because if some functionality that end users need is deprecated, nobody will maintain it and it will just disappear once it’s removed from the main codebase
Yes, I agree. That’s why I’m weirded out by people saying “Firefox bad, use Librewolf” and the like.
I still think a solution that relies on donation (maybe with some corporate support) would be very good for everyone involved. Unfortunately, Mozilla is not a player in this, so we’re stuck with basically three engines, one that can’t be used, one that’s openly hostile, and one that’s becoming hostile.
Not great.
You just described Servo. It will happen. The Linux Foundation is backing it up now… after Mozilla dropped it.
Servo
Hm. Did not know about that. Interesting, thanks.
building a web browser is extremely difficult and everyone else uses Google’s version of WebKit
To be fair it is based on KHTML. One of projects KDE can spend that extra money on and resurrect.
Bring back Konqueror too while at it!
Edit: Apparently it still exists, it just isn’t the default on any mainstream distros anymore
Saying KHTML = WebKit is like saying a sponge is a killer whale.
“based on”
Hopefully Servo will change that
Hopefully soon Librewolf, Fennec F-droid and other forks will become mainstream.
I haven’t switched to Librewolf on pc yet; hoping that turning off the telemetry/etc options in ff is enough, but I’m starting to think it might not be long.
I want to switch over further but so far I’ve had so much else going on that data privacy hasn’t taken a priority. Things are getting weird now so it is time for a priority change.
I switched over to LibreWolf recently. I discovered Vivaldi just a few hours before I learned about the Manifest v3 stuff for Chromium (which is a shame because I actually LOVED Vivaldi). I really want to try Zen Browser, but I’m using old, 2011-era Macs (running Ubuntu 24.04 on one) and it won’t install. LibreWolf is great because of its clean, minimal design and absolute privacy-forward thinking. I’ve enjoyed it so far (and I’m only running it on the Ubuntu machine).
I was that same way with Firefox for a while, but after I gave Librewolf a long-term test drive I stuck with it.
If you’re used to Firefox with the privacy stuff cranked up, from a user perspective Librewolf is basically just that. But I like knowing that some of the Mozilla stuff is actually removed.
They also roll out updates quickly. I’m pretty sure I updated Firefox and Librewolf to 136.0.1 today just hours apart.
Alright gang, what are some good open source Firefox forks available on Android and Linux?
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Waterfox
Hey guys, did you know?
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Librewolf for Linux. And ironfox on android
On Desktop I use Zen Browser. On Android I still use Brave, but I’m considering switching to a non chromium browser there some time.
I moved from Firefox on Android to Brave recently because it was too often breaking sites or taking much longer to load. Firefox just added a report broken sktes feature to the app though so maybe I’ll go back. Be the change I want to see in the world and whatnot.
Does anyone know if Blockada mitigates this problem on Android?
Pretty easy to disable the location app permission or set it to ask every time. Firefox hasn’t asked me to enable it since turning it off.
Didn’t they also elude to collecting telemetry recently? I know it’s up for some debate but, if true, I’m not sure that’s a thing we can turn off.
Yeah I’m pretty sure Firefox won’t ask for or use your location, unless a website wants it for some reason (which is almost never a good one).
and even then, for me at least, the dialog that pops up is broken and lot of times the “Allow” button literally does nothing
pot -> kettle
Explain?
Fennec is great on Android
I’ve been pretty happy with it as my casual web search browser, putting all my social media on a different browser. And it’s in F-Droid, so that always feels good.
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Firefox is maintained by Mozilla, Fennec is a custom build that removes some stuff, and is maintained by some Russian person who I’m pretty sure isn’t affiliated with Mozilla (get here by clicking the “Issue Tracker” link).
It’s not a fork since it’s built from Mozilla sources, it’s just a build script.
Friendship ended with Firefox. Waterfox is my new best friend ❤️
IceCat.
Unfortunately I am primarily an android user, as I always have my phone with me.
I shall give it a go for desktop at some point though
Waterfox is on Android too! I just installed it on both Mt PC and phone.
Ironfox seems to work well on Android.
So does Waterfox. :)
Sigh
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Well, there seem to be some good safe alternatives. I am currently switching from Firefox to Vivaldi, for example.
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Isn’t Vivaldi a chromium browser?
Hmm I didn’t know that. I was looking for more data privacy. However, there seem to be good alternatives.
Fanboys of Firefox: “DUHB DUHB USE FIREFOX CUZ IT NOT CHROME DUHB DUHB!”
Genuine question to see if the downvotes are justified or not : are you implying Chrome is a good browser and if so, why?
The downvotes are idiotic fanboys who faithfully clutch Firefox like rosary beads because it isn’t chrome.
Why the fuck would anyone imply that I think Chrome is any better? It only tells me they’re fucking morons.
An alternative explanation is that the trolling style of your post is attracting downvotes.
A more succinct explanation is that they are just an asshole.
That’s indeed a natural conclusion about the kind of person who writes a post like that, but I didn’t want to rule out other explanations such as drug consumption or stupidity.
I’m going to assume you’re one of the downvoters and anyone else in this chain. I’m going to now auto-block. Bye.
Take your meds, you’re spiraling
(What’s funny is that I went for writing an actual reply and did not downvote).
I think AugustWest’s point kinda got proven just now.
ooh do me next!
Down votes are justified for acting like a douche
I personally don’t want there to be only one browser engine - Chrome. All other browsers use their engine, or the one powering Firefox. That’s actually my main concern. I don’t know about you, but Chromium being the only web browser in the world is pretty fuckin scary.
Where did I ever say or imply that Chrome is the only option? A lot of you just misinterpret me on purpose, downvote parade galore just to stomp all over someone to make yourselves feel good about it. God, people really are this fucking stupid.
Just use chrome man, that will really take the fight to the next level
Do they share location data without asking though? Google has an incentive to exaggerate.
