This is basically a veiled admission that OpenAI are falling behind in the very arms race they started. Good, fuck Altman. We need less ultra-corpo tech bro bullshit in prevailing technology.

Let’s say I write a book.

If I don’t want people copying it, people shouldn’t be copying it. I don’t care if it’s been 500 years. It’s my book.

This is a weird thread. Lots of people for artists losing control of their creations quickly while simultaneously against artist creations being used by others without consent. Just my perspective but why should artists lose control of their own creations at all? The problem in copyright is tech companies doing patent thickets; not artists.

Even artistic creations held by corporations. Waiting for Marvel stuff to hit public domain to publish a bunch of Marvel novels since they can’t protect their creations any more? Why is that acceptable? If someone creates something and doesn’t want it stolen, I don’t give a fuck what the law says, stealing it is theft. The thief should instead be using Marvel stuff as inspiration as they make their own universe; not just waiting an amount of time before stealing someone else’s creation without consent. It isn’t holding progress back at all to make novel artistic creations instead of steal others. Art = very different from tech.

when I publish a book, to steal it is consenting to be Luigi’d; no matter how long ago it came out.

Good. I hope this is what happens.

1. LLM algorithms can be maintained and sold to corpos to scrape their own data so they can use them for in house tools, or re-sell them to their own clients.
2. Open Source LLMs can be made available for end users to do the same with their own data, or scrape whats available in the public domain for whatever they want so long as they don’t re-sell
3. Altman can go fuck himself

As an artist, kindly get fucked ass hole. I’d like compensation for all the work of mine you stole.

To be fair copyright is a disease. But then so is billionaires, capitalism, business, etc.

I mean, if there’s a war, and you shoot somebody, does that make you bad?

Yes and no.

If giant megacorporations can benefit by ignoring copyright, us mortals should be able to as well.

Until then, you have the public domain to train on. If you don’t want AI to talk like the 1920s, you shouldn’t have extended copyright and robbed society of a robust public domain.

Then let it be over then.

I find it odd that Lemmy users are so adverse to tech.

Sorry to say, but he’s right. For AI to truly flourish in the West, it needs access to all previously human made information and media.

Good, end this AI bullshit, it has little upsides and a metric fuckton of downsides for the common man

To be fair, they’re not wrong. We need to find a legal comprise that satisfies everyone

At the end of the day the fact that openai lost their collective shit when a Chinese company used their data and model to make their own more efficient model is all the proof I need they don’t care about being fair or equitable when they get mad at people doing the exact thing they did and would aggressively oppose others using their own work to advance their own.

That sounds like a you problem.

“Our business is so bad and barely viable that it can only survive if you allow us to be overtly unethical”, great pitch guys.

I mean that’s like arguing “our economy is based on slave plantations! If you abolish the practice, you’ll destroy our nation!”

Look we may have driven Aaron Swartz to suicide for doing basically the same thing on a smaller scale, but dammit we are getting very rich of this. And, if we are getting rich, then it is okay to break the law while actively fucking over actually creative people. Trust us. We are tech bros and we know what is best for you is for us to become incredibly rich and out of touch. You need us.