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Summary
Democratic divisions intensified as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Nancy Pelosi sharply criticized Chuck Schumer for supporting a Republican-led funding bill to avoid a government shutdown.
AOC called Schumer’s decision a “betrayal,” urging Senate Democrats to reject the legislation backed by Trump and Elon Musk. Pelosi called the bill a “devastating assault” on working families.
Schumer defended his stance, arguing a shutdown would empower Trump and Musk further.
The controversy sparked suggestions among Democrats that AOC might challenge Schumer in a primary.
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What’s still not clear to me is what the plan is if the CR is not passed. Republicans control the overall agenda in Congress. What I fear would happen is Republicans would start to fund the government bit by bit, starting with the bits they like the most.
Then in 3 months, when the Department of Education and other things are still not funded, Republicans can say “See! Democrats wouldn’t let us open it. It’s all AOC’s fault!”, and the public would buy it.
If there were a clear path to a better deal by shutting down the government, I’d be all for it. Go ahead, downvote me if you want, but I’m more interested in knowing how I’m wrong about this. If your response is “we need to stop this because it’s awful”, that’s fine, but how does stopping it lead to something better?
Voting no on this CR is not voting for a shutdown. It’s voting for a different CR. Voting yes is giving up without a fight and giving Trump whatever he wants. This is the first chance since the election for the Democrats to oppose Trump through official channels, and Schumer rolled over immediately. If they do nothing now, we already have a one-party autocracy.
Appeasing fascists is a time-tested losing strategy. If the choice is between shutdown and give Trump whatever he wants, I think the answer should be clear. Trump is already speed running a federal collapse. Might as well deny him the damage he would do in the interim.
If they wanted a shutdown, they have every ability to make that happen. If a couple of House Republicans opposed it, it would have failed to pass. They didn’t because people are going to blame Republicans for it (or at least were before Schumer mucked up the story).
And they can’t fund it bit by but. The executive can decide how to allocate remaining funds and order some people to work without pay, but turning stuff back on for the long term takes Congress and the Republicans have a single budget vote this year that can be Republican-only.
Finally, if this was the end conclusion of The Adult In The Room, all of it was true before the House voted. This isn’t the end game of a serious thinker, this is Schumer blowing up the game after his colleagues have already taken the risk of voting no across the board. He should be fired for that alone.
I have been extremely pro-democrat and it has driven me insane how the far left ONLY ever shits on democrats when they are objectively better than republicans on every single issue. Democrats generally vote in the direction of increased taxes on the rich, more access to healthcare, better safety nets, etc. while republicans are just demons who obstruct all progress for the sake of destroying the world. But after Trumps election, watching the cowardice of the dems actually fucking disgusts me. They might as well be republicans with their lack of response. Just a fucking disgrace. Fuck Cuck Schumer. I will stop defending dems. Trumps election is the official end of both parties. Neither of those parties can be allowed to survive if the US manages to survive this.
Democrats aren’t generally pro taxing the rich or deviating significantly on many issues since Clinton and the 90s. Yes, some of the squad said that they were pro-taxing the rich when they knew that there was no possibility of it being brought to a vote and the Democrats maintained a pretend opposition to the extreme violations of civil rights in the war on terror or ICE deportations. But after Obama, the most extreme and worst excesses of the war on terror were bipartisan, and after Biden all ICE and immigration policies were fully bipartisan (he continued the obviously facetious use of COVID as a terrible, contagious disease to deny asylum seekers, just as Trump did, after saying COVID was over, and continued deportations and putting immigrants in ICE concentration camps, when 4 years prior Democrats could understand that was fascist). That is why the left hates Democrats. Because the two-party system means the Democrats can absorb all opposition to the Republicans, while continuing all of their policies and claiming that wanting any movement to the left/away from fascism is only helping the Republicans. That we should just continue the Republican’s policies, but it is fine because Obama is going to file the paperwork correctly to send Arabs to blacksites or Biden is going to file the paperwork correctly to do ICE deportations at a greater rate than Trump [term 1] or genocide in Gaza. The Democrats are above criticism and should be allowed to do fascist immigration policy or genocide.
Just wrong. Democrats absolutely deviate significantly. I don’t even know how to push back against this, it reads like you fed an LLM exclusively lefty influencer takes.
Wasn’t this a CR for the dem’s own spending bill…? So its the same bill the dems had right?
the bill has funds for departments and agencies that dont exist anymore and it would give the administration a giant pile of free money with no strings attached
Losing in shutdown game and keep doing the same again. The lack of imagination of aged DEM is worrying.
One thing you got to give Trusk some credits is he dares to put wild unpopular ideas into action, which mostly strengthened his position, not weaken it. You got to be innovative if you want to beat him, repeating old failure is not an option.
Schumer’s argument is shit. They’re going to go after government agencies with or without the funding bill. With the finding bill they get to choose. Without it they have to shut down everything. Passing that bill means they get more maneuvering room, not less.
And with a shutdown the Dems would get to shout about ‘the GOP shutdown’ for however long it lasts which would also help to galvanize the public against MAGA.
Jefferies and Schumer need to step down. This is pathetic.
The fucking dems better wise the fuck up and run her in 2028. If we have a fucking 2028 election.
It’s already gonna be newsom.
Or Buttigieg.
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oh yeah it’s bc I’m not a big fan of how toxic and full of Stalin and Putin bros the .ml instances are cx sorry for not liking people who want me locked up for being trans, clearly I support killing all Palestinians
newsom’s headed in that direction.
Newsome is a slimy dirtbag, like every other current Democratic leader. And I say that after voting for Kamala. AOC and buttigiege are the only two I would vote for.
They’re not going to run a woman in 2028.
When I first met her, she was slinging margaritas at a Mexican restaurant near Union Square. It was the best part of the time between classes I had at Parsons.
Sadly, because I lived in Brooklyn, I could not vote for her, although she has been one of the greatest young progressive voices in our government in nearly a century.
Saying that “I wish her all the best” doesn’t come close. I want her to be president someday, very very soon.
Screw Schumer. If there’s one thing that might bring some people away from Trump - it’s having the government shut down for no discernible reason for an extended amount of time. Could be the last shot at doing things here the legal way
Dems need to stop pretending Schumer is the only problem, any other dem in his position would have done the same thing including AOC. The party is rotten to the core it’s just a revolving door of sycophants who server wall st and capital. The party is working as intended. Notice how Dems never have power to make actual change, never have the backbone to oppose republicans, and when they have majorities they never use their power for actual progress or at the very least codifying laws like roe v wade ect. They are there to act like an opposition party not actually be one. The working class is perpetually screwed.
I will never again take AOC or any other “squad” member seriously as long as they proudly call themselves Democrats. Go independent like Bernie or start another party. Until then, if they want to keep giving themselves the same label as Schumer or Fetterman, I’m going to lump them in the same batch of assholes and idiots.
That’s a fucking retarded hill to die on.
Its funny I have suddenly seen the leave the party thing pop up in multiple places at the exact same time.
Beginning to think it’s AstroTurf to get the noise people out of the way and into 3rd party oblivion
Start a fucking progressive party already
As far left as I am, that would guarantee the Republicans would win every election until we get ranked choice vote
That’d be a threat if the dems were actually willing to improve the country not just be controlled opposition
Honestly how I’m feeling these days. I honestly think their preferred state is not being in power, that way they don’t have to keep any promises and get to keep their jobs all while doing nothing but complaining about Republicans.
I honestly think that both parties like to not be in power for this very reason. All the money and none of the responsibilities. Pretty sweet setup
The only silver lining here is the remote possibility of progressive Democrats breaking out to form their own party. At least then the US will have a legitimate opposition party.
You realize this was your last election right? It’s not going back to normal.
I guess we will see won’t we. I’m still voting in 2026 and 2028. I’m not going to be discouraged by all the nihilists on the internet that are trying to convince me I’m powerless. Maybe I’ll find that process is finished but I’m not rolling over or giving up. Hell you could be a Russian bot trying to make us feel apathetic about voting by just vaguely going … “ you guys realize it’s all over right ? Yea keep on sucking on that copium pal! 😈”
Quit sucking your own dick
Why?
Nyet
you’re not powerless, far from it - but you need to exert your power before 2026 and 2028 if you want your vote to matter.
your power comes from your ability to go on strike and sabotage, not from voting
I’m definitely already doing that. Every little bit counts.
AOC obviously didn’t get the message. The Democrats have completely given up on the Kafabe of pretending to be an opposition party.
no but you don’t understand! IF YOU HAD JUST VOTED, WE COULD HAVE HAD TEN CHUCK SCHUMERS TO VOTE FOR THE FASCIST CRAP! so really everything bad that happened is your fault for not voting. how dare you fail the democratic party like this.
Traitors for hire.
If Pelosi AND AOC agree on something, no one in the party has any business disagreeing. Schumer should resign over this moronic take.
This is exactly what my first thought was. If Pelosi and AOC are agreeing on something, the other side is being really really stupid.
Challenge him. He’s has no business being a party leader if he’s as spineless as the Republicans who pushed this bill.
She would have to be in the senate to take over senate leadership in the short term. For his seat itself, there’s been house members - including moderates - starting to support the idea her primarying him when his term is up in 2028
Several members — including moderates — have begun voicing support for a primary challenge to Schumer, floating Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Dan Goldman (D-N.Y.) as possible candidates, three House Democrats said.
https://www.axios.com/2025/03/14/house-democrats-angry-chuck-schumer-shutdown
I don’t want him out in 2028, I want him out now.
He can realistically be stripped of senate leadership in the short term. Call your senators and tell them to support removing him from leadership
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I think they’re implying “Run for Senate, if she wins, replace the seat of power with her.”
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Spinelessness is the chief defining quality of the entire Democratic Party. There are very few individual exceptions and those people need to start a new party. The US needs a real progressive party. The establishment Dems have made it very clear they won’t support a true progressive candidate, so what’s the point of bending the knee to these fuckers any longer?
And honestly now is the time to do it. I have absolutely zero faith we will have honest elections in the next couple decades so splitting the funding between neo lib corpocrats and an actual progressive party for the people will not affect the crooked elections under trump since they won’t win anyway. The time for progress is NOW
