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Summary
Wisconsin resident Bradley Bartell voted for Trump’s promise to crack down on “criminal illegal immigrants,” but now his Peruvian wife Camila Muñoz has been detained by ICE.
Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa but had applied for legal residency. On their way home from a honeymoon, immigration agents detained her at a Puerto Rico airport.
Despite no criminal record, she remains in a Louisiana detention center. Her case reflects ICE’s broadened enforcement that now includes documented immigrants.
Bartell, once supportive of stricter immigration policies, now questions the impact on families like his own.
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Can we start deporting these fucks too? He married her, he should go too.
Right? Deported for harboring known criminals.
Which country will be America’s trash can?
Not even treason can end in the revocation of your citizenship if naturally born (possible for a naturalized citizen)
Doubling down on racist, fascist policies probably isn’t the best way to fight against them
US Citizens cannot legally be deported, and the 14th Amendment protects you from forced revocation of your citizenship. The only way you can become a Non Citizen again is denaturalization, or renunciation.
You won, get over it
Let’s start arresting Trumpers (not just husbands, but farmers, restaraunt owners, hotel owners, factory owners, etc) for multiple counts of aiding and abetting and see if they still think supporting him is a good idea.
I honestly believe these idiots that voted for Trump somehow thought that they would be immune to his policies. He doesn’t give a fuck about you.
For sure. It’s the classic:
American exceptionalism
They thought by bending the knee to Trump, they would be exempt from his bullshit. You’re 100% right here. He doesn’t give a fuck about Americans, their families or the down troddened.
Trump only cares about Trump.
I know it’s been getting a lot of mileage on Lemmy lately, but:
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
- Wilholt’s Law
He figured he was in the first group, and since conservatives tend to think women are property, he figured her being with him put her in that group too. Whoops.
This is a really good read on these types of situations. He’s a white guy and he thought that was enough. that means the rules don’t apply to him. I think as we are trying to figure these people out we sometimes overcomplicate it and a lot of the times the reasons are really quite simple. Just like them.
In general we give people who act stupid way too much credit, they’re actually just fucking stupid.
Conversely, we’re way too comfortable letting politicians play stupid instead of calling them out for their malicious intentions. And if the politician truly is stupid (Trump) there are handlers behind them pulling the strings
All conservatives want this law to be reality, and they all want to be in the first group. When you look at it in that light, all their supposedly contradictory actions make sense.
It seems like most of the time the realization they come to is less ‘oh wow maybe this is bad actually’ and more ‘hey, you put me in the wrong group!’
Sad for his wife, but honestly fuck him, he got what he asked for. He has zero right to complain.
Didn’t she willfully married a trump voter ? Or did he hide his shitty views before the wedding ?
Well she didn’t vote, so in that way she is not responsible. He is. She may be just as stupid, but we don’t know that.
leopards hate his face
Headline reads like the voice over of a 90s comedy movie.
that was his plan from the start
“but… it shouldn’t have affected ME, you know?”
Right because my situation is special. I’m special and these laws don’t apply to me. @shithead I’ve voted for you 3 times, please help rectify this mistake.
How ironic would it be if he pressured his illegal immigrant wife to vote for t too 🤔
Another dumbass who still hasn’t figured it out.
Me when I read stories like this
FAFO vote for a clown don’t complain it’s turning into a crazy circus
ICE is under extreme pressure from the White House to ramp up enforcement. Top ICE officials, including the newly installed acting director, were re-assigned within weeks of Trump taking office, allegedly over frustrations that detentions and deportations weren’t rising fast enough.
I think this is really the main cause. Trump envisioned that once he took office, he would flush the millions of illegals who voted for Biden in 2020 like rats. (I picked that analogy on purpose, he thinks they’re sub-human).
The problem is that those people simply don’t exist. They never tried to vote (because that is a sure ticket to getting kicked out permanently, after spending time in jail). But most immigrants that are easy to find are the legal kind.
So, when ICE simply couldn’t find the vermin in the numbers Trump wanted, he fired them all and put in new people willing to go farther. So now, any non-citizen is suspect (as well as citizens who don’t “look like” citizens). This is going to continue to escalate. This will turn into a major diplomatic problem. Other countries will need to start denying automatic visas to US citizens. Trump won’t pay attention until his Corporate masters yell at him for making it so they can’t just jet off to Europe whenever they want.
he would flush the millions of illegals who voted for Biden in 2020 like rats. (I picked that analogy on purpose, he thinks they’re sub-human).
And that is the Nazi (and other authoritarian, not even just right fascists) talking point. The painting of a people as “Vermin”, the villainization of a minority or even a majority or comparatively similar size group. The point is to gear your people to think deep down that the “others” are beneath them, beneath deserved respect, sub human scum that you shouldn’t be worried about what happens to them.
Does marriage to a citizen no longer make you a citizen? Did I miss that part?
I am going through this process right now.
Once we are married (very soon) she will apply for a change of status to CR1 Visa (Temporary Residency for a spouse of an American citizen)
From that point you have 2 years to finalize application for a Green Card (permanent residency)
Once she has her Green Card, so long as she isn’t a criminal breaking any laws (non immigration related, felony shit) then she is a legal, permanent, resident.
You then have to maintain that Green Card status for a minimum of 3 YEARS to then apply for full or dual citizenship. (Though you apply 90 days before that 3 year mark arrives)
I don’t think it ever did. It does qualify you for legal residency status, resident alien or “green card” as most people refer to it. I’m pretty sure that status can be voided if you did anything illegal along the way. For citizen status you still have to go through the process.
Good. I hope he’s fucking devastated. I hope his entire world is fucking crumbling. Everyone with three working braincells or more knew exactly what would happen if we let the christonationalist fascists have total control of the government, and pieces of subhuman trash like him willingly made it happen.
I pity Madam but I have little sympathy for Sir.
I have little sympathy for Madame. She travelled
out of the countryto Puerto Rico for her honeymoon, knowing she overstayed on her visa. Given what had happened in the weeks leading up to them leaving the US last week, she really should have not gotten on that plane.She went to Puerto Rico. Which is a US territory.
That may be true, but they have been rounding up legal immigrants at the various ports of entry for weeks. I didn’t see that the trip was to PR, but either way, they’ve rounded up several legal immigrants just here in San Ysidro. She knew she was no longer legally here, fucked around and found out.
The stupidest thing she did was marry someone who would vote that way. She should have left his ass the second he cast that ballot, if not before.
The reason I sympathize with Madam is the same reason I sympathize with most migrants: they’re not doing it to hurt the country they migrate to, they’re trying to have a shot at a better life. I totally get what you’re saying but that doesn’t make her a bad person.
Sir however is a dumbass: he did the very thing the guy he voted for said he would crack down on and now he’s bitching and moaning… Well ya know, faces, leopards and all that.
She should have left him when he supported a rapist criminal for President of the country she wishes to join. Face-eating voter by proxy.
Unfortunately, there’s a high chance her immigration application depends on her being married to him. My husband and I have been at his process for going on 8 years, and it entirely rests on me sponsoring him. If we were to separate, his whole case would get shut down, and he starts over with an even more expensive and complicated process. We aren’t going to divorce because we love each other, but it’s still something that his lawyer had to advise us about.
Good point I guess, but it’s clearly a no win situation in this case. I hope you guys make it, but probably your husband shouldn’t
leave the countrygo anywhere near a border for a while.I suspect people like your husband might even be at risk after naturalization during this administration.
Thank you. This whole system is honestly a clusterfuck. Its been 11 years and we’re still fighting. I give immigrants more of a devils advocate than maybe I should because of our experience, but its hard not to because I’ve seen the shittiness of our current system. Its also why I hate the whole “ThEy ShOuLd JuSt CoMe HeRe LeGaLlY” argument. Its not that easy for so many of them. Its expensive (we’re at about 25k with probably more to be spent), overly complicated, and one single misstep sends you back to square one.
Luckily, we aren’t near a border, and in a purple state, so it’s not as dangerous here as other places. But it’s still terrifying with this administration.
Just don’t forget it’s a 100 miles from borders and coasts.
Stay safe, good luck, and if it comes down to it, maybe have your husband keep his original citizenship in case it makes more sense for you to both leave here.
"First, they came for the pro-Palestinian activists, and my jimmies weren’t rustled.
“Then they came for the Peruvian newlyweds and my jimmies weren’t rustled.”
This is just the Hollywood modern reimagining of WW2 that no one wanted.
