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sad stuff… people voting against their interests
They vote as they do because they’re so impressionable. It’s also why there’s a huge overlap of religious nutjobs and Republicans.
They vote as they do because they’re so impressionable.
Yup.
But I have zero sympathy for them because this isn’t the olden days where someone had to travel to a library or enroll in a university and move away from home to gain access to knowledge. It’s all there at their fingertips. They just have to be responsible enough to plug in to reasonable sources. And they aren’t. They allow hate and fear to guide their decisions.
It’s 2025. There’s zero excuses to be ignorant now. So they can suffer and I’ll feel nothing for them.
Is “MAGAtard” okay to say on Lemmy without getting banned? It’s not a slur against mentally challenged people FFS, it’s a slur against MAGA. I think MAGAt is a poor substitute.
You’re part of the problem
If you have to ask, you probably already know the answer. You can insult them without playing off of a slur for another group.
When I ask a question it’s because I don’t know the answer. I don’t pretend to have psychic powers like so many people on social media.
The fact that this guy posts this on X with a paid-for blue checkmark tells you everything about why Trump won and why he’ll keep winning. The left has made almost no effort to win the information space. They just lose and then celebrate when some of the harm falls back on MAGA.
How about his for a change: Win. Try to win. Stop kowtowing to right wing information propaganda spaces that stifle the left like X, Fox News, and Rogan. Fight them like the right fights the left in the information space. True, you won’t get to celebrate when your neighbor suffers from Trump, but it’ll be because he didn’t vote Trump in the first place.
This is a liberal account, he’s not a leftist. Leftists have been in the streets, while liberals remain in the tweets.
put that on a bumper sticker
This fuckin slaps
Thanks, I literally thought it up when I typed “in the streets”.
Nice rhyme, might steal it
I don’t believe in intellectual property, so you can’t. It’s yours as much as mine.
You expect a “both sides” maga to know that? Seeing all these “it’s the dem’s fault for not telling us how shit trump would treat us” folks is crazy. Everyone want to blame the dems for the lepords.
The democrats ran the same candidate against Trump and lost two out of the three times they tried. Do you happen to know the definition of insanity?
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good lord, its always the dems fault! ‘why oh why didn’t we run a racist rapist who promises to ban an entire religion! someone who has bankrupted casinos! someone who cant run a charity for cancer kids!? a fraud university!? clearly its the dems fault ! they didn’t excite me enough! i demand perfection!’
two different standards and yet americans are still blaming democrats.
its the citizens.
No, it’s (1) proximity to massive online psyop campaigns put forth by BRICS (BIGGEST FACTOR) (2) profound loneliness and social isolation and (3) low information/bad internet hygiene
i actually have no idea what the fuck you are talking about, but im willing to listen and hear you out. explain it to me like to a child.
Bricks is Brasil, Russia, India, China and one other. Their goal is to dethrone G7. The other points are sociological and about digital propaganda.
welp maybe im old but ive known this since at least 9/11 times. everything except brazil didnt they get rid of their dictator recent? anyways interesting to hear it called bricks and im glad people are aware. thank you for the breakdown
I saw the “Dems are the Uvalde cops Magas are the shooters.” And goddamn it salpped ever since. You guys need to get a real 3rd party that is real grassroots socialist.
I’ve been watching people go on and on about a Socialist revolution since I read about Gene Debs in high school.
I haven’t seen them actually do anything yet.
Easy to say, hard to do.
Need to finish that Elden Ring dlc first.
Trump was never on your side, now you’re finding out the hard way :|
oh they aint finding out
A Twitter checkmark? In 2025?
Kinda cheapens the post a bit.
You don’t need to be right wing/maga to post engagement-farming on Twitter.
A left wing liberal who gives money to the fascist in charge for a little blue dot is an idiot and a half.
I don’t disagree, but that left wing liberal is just trying to make easy money via engagement - just like the right wing grifters.
I bet his flag is down just for selling purposes. He probably blames Joe Biden.
What’s FAFO?
F Around and find out
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^^^🎻
That’s a little big, but not too far off from the actual world’s smallest violin
We really need a Herman Cain Award for Trumpers who have lost their livelihoods. I used to love the old compilations of dozens of posts only to have the inevitable “COVID ain’t no joke”.
Covid deniers when their opponent is covid
All my Trump neighbors are rental tenants so they get shuffled in and out every year by their landlords. A few MAGA banner fliers as well as a few families with small kids all got kicked out my neighborhood this last year for Sale signs to go up.
They were tricked by a propaganda machine. They may have been willing participants but had they known everything they never would have voted against their own interests. Yet every country in the western hemisphere, South America, Africa, Asia, and well everywhere doesn’t have anti propaganda laws. If you’re rich you can buy influence in any neo liberal country. Why is that?
How do you construct anti-propaganda laws that can’t be used by bad actors to silence dissent? Genuine question if you have an answer but I don’t think anyone actually does. The only actual counter to propaganda is quality education, which is where the US has been failing dramatically.
So far all anti propaganda laws were passed in totalitarian states to suppress dissidents. But I think a good start would be to look at pre-existing limitations on free speech. Can you shout “fire” in a crowded theater just for funsies? No? Then we’ve already got a public safety caveat in our right to free speech. So you can’t say something that will kill people IF IT IS A LIE. There are also time place and manner restrictions on free speech. So we agree there is a time and place where you can criticize the state. So we sort of believe that during public emergencies, such as during a pandemic, you cannot spread lies about the pandemic.
There are ways to prove lies.
How the fuck did democrats go from the party that hates misinformation to the party that believes implausible posts on a platform known to be full nonsense because it fits a cute narrative?
So anyways I started shit posting…
How did getting laid off during cutbacks go from commonplace to implausible? Are you taking the wrong meds?
Nobody is this stupid. You’re being intentionally dishonest.
USDA isn’t the private sector. There are strict rules against firing the vast majority of employees. It’s why Trump has largely gone after probationary employees, as they have less protections. Even that has been wrapped up in several different ongoing court cases.
There are also mortgage forbearance programs designed for temporary job loss. Even without them, foreclosure is a lengthy process. It’s not something that’s initiated after one missed payment.
So for this story to be true:
- OP, a progressive Twitter influencer, lives next to a hardcore MAGA republican. Unlikely, but relatively common
- Said MAGA republican is also a federal government employee. More unlikely, but still relatively common
- Said federal government employee is among the roughly 10 percent of government workers that are probationary. Relatively rare, but not unheard of
- Despite being new to federal employment and federal employment known for someone that you do for the long haul for pension reasons, OP’s neighbor has the money to buy a house. Relatively rare, but not unheard of
- Despite having the finances for a home, is in such dire straits that the only option after one missed paycheck is to sell their home. Very rare, but not unheard of
- Despite being very into politics and a government employee, is wholly unaware of the pending legal actions against said firing, including the current rulings reversing the staffing cuts.
All of this is possible. The world is a strange place. However the confluence of all those things being true is highly improbable, perfectly matches the “dumb conservatives gonna regret their choice” narrative progressive influencers push, and is sourced from a platform known for being full of misinformation and bait.
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Nobody is this stupid. You’re being intentionally dishonest.
When you start out like that there’s no motivation for me to even read the rest of your comment. “Fuck you, now here’s my opinion” is never a good opener.
Great. Less time dealing with someone trying to bullshit me.
ask any millenial what all our parents were telling us until they got on facebook.
Ah, the classic anything I don’t agree with is fake news.
- On Twitter, the site known for random misinformation
- OP knows their neighbor well enough to know where they work, despite that not being nearly as common these days and OP not seeming like the kind of guy that would befriend Trump supporters
- OP’s neighbor is one of the minority of federal workers who are probationary employees, because that’s the only group Elon has been able to really fire right now
- OP’s neighbor simultaneously being a homeowner with a previously-stable job, but being in such dire financial straits that simply missing two paychecks results in a complete crashout.
- OP’s neighbor then selling the house instead of taking advantage of the large number of hardship programs that would be available for someone with issues paying their mortgage, at least temporarily.
Like is this possible? Yes. However it’s highly implausible, and conveniently matches the whole “stupid Drunpf supporters regret their decision” narrative that both Lemmy and reddit absolutely adore. To take this at any sort of face value without any genuine shred of concrete evidence is insane.
OP’s neighbor is one of the minority of federal workers who are probationary employees, because that’s the only group Elon has been able to really fire right now
This part isn’t true. At this point, probably over half of the fired workers were permanent, from agencies that are closing or are implementing RIFs. Most are still drawing paychecks, but budgeting does (and should) change once someone is informed that they’ll be out of a job in the next month or two.
For many agencies, these satellite offices often have monopsony power over workers of certain job skills. NOAA and the National Weather Service employ a lot of people who have job functions not really available from another employer, especially without moving. The same is true of NIH and CDC. HHS just announced the closure of several lawyer offices, and those specialists are going to have a bit of a rough time finding replacement jobs. USDA is a big organization, and have a ton of economists and scientists who would basically have to take a big pay cut if they’re laid off in this environment.
You’re downplaying just how devastating some of these job losses are, by ignoring that many of these people moved to these cities in reliance on the job stability they expected, and downplaying the number of people affected and the length of tenure these people have.
I don’t have a strong view of whether this story is literally true of this specific account’s neighbor. But I can tell you that versions of this story have happened to thousands already, and will happen to tens of thousands more.
In other words you don’t give a shit about facts so long as they fit your worldview.
If OP’s neighbor got a promotion within the last 2 years he is a probationary employee.
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Because a bunch of dumbfucks voted for a guy that made it clear he was going to fire a bunch of federal employees and then he did so and a bunch of his voters lost their jobs.
So this really isn’t much of a stretch to believe. If this exact scenario didn’t happen, something close enough has happened to multiple people over the last 1.5 months, because that’s what happens when you abruptly lose your source of income and live paycheck to paycheck, like most Americans.
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The trump sign probably only came down so they could put it back up at whatever trailer park they move into. They’ll gladly vote for the next trump-aligned fascist. These people are incapable of learning.
Yup. Realtor likely took it down because any political flag will devalue a house or turn away potential buyers.
Gonna be complaining DEI made him lose his job and Biden’s taxes made him lose his house
Yup.
Been paying attention to American politics for 20 years now. Have watched Republican leadership fail so spectacularly that it even pissed off a bunch of conservative voters. Didn’t matter. Next dogshit Republican candidate that came along, they were back onboard.
Because conservatives would rather have an actual, literal dictator than a Democrat president. That’s how far gone they are. They will sell out their country and their own futures to prevent the other team from winning. Hell, they just did in November. Economy is tanking and our allies all hate us now. Doesn’t matter though. The Democrat was worse…somehow.
It’s kind of scary that 3 weeks is all it took for them to list their home.
It’s kind of scary that 3 weeks is all it took for them to list their home.
The neighbor is part of the (in 2019) 51%.
“Most Working Americans Would Face Economic Hardship If They Missed More than One Paycheck”
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