• Tim_Bisley
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    226 days ago

    The only reason I still use my roku is because it has sound leveling capabilities that is much better than anything else I have. I use my PC for just about everything but recently Sling stopped working on the PC or at least the DVR is directing me to download some app? Also Paramount doesn’t handle 60fps content (sports) on the PC very well, it stutters a lot.

    Windows has sound leveling but I haven’t had much luck with it when its really needed. My receiver is old and has only rudimentary sound leveling.

  • @[email protected]
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    2126 days ago

    Roku had the best smart tv ui. I was seriously bummed when the ads started rolling in a few years ago.

    I want an open source streaming client, but from what I hear DRM gets in the way of that.

    • @[email protected]
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      725 days ago

      Honestly i dont even care about non intrusive ads. I dont like it but i can live with those ads on the side bar telling me about some movie coming out, but this auto video bullshit that takes over my screen is fucking awful. That’s the line for me

    • @[email protected]
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      125 days ago

      I’ve much preferred Google TV for some time now. The recommendations and live free tv options are essentially built into the UI. Although I do use the Roku app as one of my free streaming options lol.

  • @[email protected]
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    625 days ago

    It’s 1000% worth it to spend a little extra on a TV to get one that runs Google TV. Android is just superior compared to Roku in this regard. I actually have an Apple TV 4K as well, and regularly switch between the two.

      • @[email protected]
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        125 days ago

        That’s such a cool and novel opinion. Wow. My Android TV does everything I need it to right out of the box. Never fucking shows me advertisements, and actually made it easier for me to stop paying for an overpriced Hulu subscription.

          • @[email protected]
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            125 days ago

            I don’t really understand the hate for Android TV. It’s pretty obvious to me (since I use both) that they’re trying to compete with Apple TV. Android TV has a lot of great settings and features. When I’m not doing anything with it, it automatically shows a screensaver of my choosing - just like Apple TV does. I have quick and easy access to the movies I’ve purchased on my YouTube account as well.

            Any assumption that Android TV will force ads on its users tells me they haven’t used it.

              • @[email protected]
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                125 days ago

                Cool. I’m going to continue enjoying an ad free experience on my TV, and people in this thread can continue using shit platforms that force ads all they want.

                As if you aren’t looking for the same functionality mine comes with out of the box.

    • @[email protected]
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      225 days ago

      So far. And I actually prefer the Roku UI even though the Google TV will do more things, like let you sideload apps. Roku is propietary.

      • @[email protected]
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        425 days ago

        The sad thing is Roku’s UI was pretty dang good before they added a row of ads at the top, a half screen ad on the left and replaced the background with an ad every 2 weeks, waiting a full minute for it to load the latest nonsense the highest bidder paid them to shove in my face. The ads absolutely ruin a good platform.

      • @[email protected]
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        125 days ago

        So far what?

        Even if they do start putting ads on Android TV, all I have to do is switch over to my Apple TV. That’s the best performing streaming device on the market, regardless of your opinion on Apple.

    • @[email protected]
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      1725 days ago

      Manufacturers need to put the cheap ass software on a cheap ass $20 stick. Stop fucking up TVs with it. Stop accepting any ‘smart’ features and stop calling them smart. They’re invasive advertisement platforms, full fucking stop. It is in fact NOT worth it to get a google TV, because they’ll pull this shit or worse next week. We had perfectly functional TVs for decades before this shit, stop acting like the only choice is to surrender your hardware.

      • @[email protected]
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        125 days ago

        I’m not surrending shit. It’s really Android TV, they just call it Google. But whatever man, go off.

    • @[email protected]
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      626 days ago

      Eh, I just started connecting cheap ($30 or so) used Apple TVs to mine. I saw the writing on the wall.

    • Lexam
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      2726 days ago

      Step 1. Factory reset.

      Step 2. Do not allow it to connect to the Internet.

      Step 3. Connect a Linux based computer to it and run everything through the computer.

      • Pika
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        This method will not work on all Roku tvs, some Roku TV brands require you to phone home to activate the TV before you can use it for the first time. Which requires you to not only connect to the internet but also log into a Roku account on it. It’s stupid.

        • SaltySalamander
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          That would instantly result in the TV being returned to the store I purchased it from.

        • @[email protected]
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          425 days ago

          I bought a Samsung TV that wouldn’t let me change the input until I connected it to the internet, I returned that crap within the hour.

  • @[email protected]
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    124 days ago

    Libreelec on raspberry pi 4 (Kodi) works for me but it really needs a new YouTube app. That’s the only issue really

  • @[email protected]
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    Get to the endgame. Just strap us to a chair and make us watch your crap ads Clockwork Orange style.

    • @[email protected]
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      525 days ago

      But the eyelid things look like they’re really uncomfortable. Any chance you can just hack into our brains and stream advertising consistently while I’m in a coma?

    • Snot Flickerman
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      Or better yet, use a Pi-Hole or something similar to block the relevant adservers at the DNS level.

      • Hellmo_luciferrari
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        2326 days ago

        I wouldn’t say this is “better”

        I do run a pihole, but I still will never connect my roku to the internet. It is much better to have a media PC or other streaming device I have control of fully connected.

        • Snot Flickerman
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          1026 days ago

          True, but most people are buying off-the-shelf stuff and they don’t have their own localized piracy-enabled libraries with a Jellyfin server.

          Further, I’m pretty sure you’ve got to connect your Roku at least once to install player apps like Jellyfin. But maybe you don’t, I’m not at all familiar with if you can sideload on a Roku.

          • @[email protected]
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            426 days ago

            There is actually a way to sideload apps without internet. I did it once and forgot the details

          • Hellmo_luciferrari
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            225 days ago

            For any streaming, Netflix, YouTube, or anything I would always use a computer. Not some awful app on a slow device. No screen of mine needs to be anything besides a screen.

        • @[email protected]
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          426 days ago

          Amen. I run a PiHole, and also just use lil computers on all of my screens and download anything I watch and put it on a lil server they all can stream from! No ads, best quality!

      • @[email protected]
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        626 days ago

        Would you happen to know of any guides or have advice on identifying the adservers to block?

        • Snot Flickerman
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          I’ve always just done it manually by viewing the Pi-Hole logs for the device I am on while the ad is loading. It takes getting into the weeds a bit.

          Further, I don’t have a Roku so I’ve never looked into it myself.

          That being said, a quick search brought up this hosts file:

          https://gist.github.com/sidward35/cea28bedd0ec0b1bceec8c2b22c163c4

          Adlist for Pi-hole with domains for Roku, LG, and Samsung

          Not sure if it’s current or not. Lots of threads about Roku ads making it through after being previously blocked.

          • @[email protected]
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            326 days ago

            Appreciate the reply and link regardless! It’s always whack-an-ad with these intrusive jerks.

    • @[email protected]
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      1626 days ago

      Don’t connect your Roku to the internet.

      I thought that Roku was some kind of streaming service to a device. Doesn’t that need to be Internet-connected to function?

      kagis

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roku

      Ah. Apparently that’s what they originally did, but they’ve also subsequently come out with smart TVs, which I assume can operate without an Internet connection.

      • GreyBeard
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        726 days ago

        Roku started as a streaming media box. You paid them money, they gave you a box that could play Netflix and Youtube. It was a simple transaction. Unfortunately, at some point they decided to start selling/giving their OS to TV manufacturers. This was actually nice at the start. You got a smart TV who’s “Smarts” were designed by competent people. A revolution at the time. But the drive to drop prices lower and lower meant that there was no margin on the TV, which means Roku had to investigate other ways of making their revenue, AKA Ads and selling data.

        Of course, the stand alone box probably would have went that way anyways, but at least with selling a dedicated box, there is a clear financial benefit without the need to get invasive.

  • @[email protected]
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    224 days ago

    Anyone successfully installed LineageOS on Nvidia Shield or Onn devices? I ran the Konstakang AndroidTV build of Lineage on a Raspberry Pi 4 a couple years ago, and it was nice in how uncluttered and non-spywarey it was, but I ended up buying a Shield because hardware decoding never worked well and the frame rate drops were unbearable.

    • muculent
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      124 days ago

      I was just looking into this and saw this comment. I’m just using Xubuntu on an old laptop at the moment but this sort of thing is what I really want to go for so I might test it out when I get more time.

  • @[email protected]
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    325 days ago

    Think of any invasive streaming devices in your house. Samsung, Google Chromecast, ATV, LG etc. Roku is by far the worst.

    • @[email protected]
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      525 days ago

      This was shitty, but the giants are worse than the smaller companies. Roku works fine and ad-free if you block the ad/tracking domains. Try separating the ads/tracking from the stuff you need on a Google device.

  • @[email protected]
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    526 days ago

    What’s the best alternative? I have a fire cube, and I’m getting sick of it. Apple TV? Is there a FOSS solution that’s close to the same quality interface?

    • @[email protected]
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      226 days ago

      I have a Raspberry Pi 500 running PiOS that works well like a computer to just play things in browser. No ads or anything of course. But also no casting from a phone or anything

    • ThePowerOfGeek
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      226 days ago

      Some good options already listed. But here’s another.

      Hey an Android TV box (Onn brand or similar) and install an open source launcher on it, like Projectivity. You have to use adb to disable the default launcher after the new launcher is installed, otherwise it keeps defaulting back to the default one. But once don’t it’s smooth sailing. You have a dedicated streaming device with a remote control and a nice UI with zero ads on the home screen.

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      The best is unironically to pirate and use something like Kodi on a SBC that can run libreElec.

    • @[email protected]
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      AppleTV is very easy, and what I did after Roku, then the Chrome stick added ads. I haven’t seen any ads in the AppleTV home screens.

    • @[email protected]
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      726 days ago

      TL; DR - No. But actually maybe, depending on what you’re looking for and what you can put up with.

      Are you looking to access streaming services? Or are you okay with self-hosting?

      The FOSS solutions that support streaming services are pretty janky IMO because they don’t have support from the service, so you’re probably better off hooking up a laptop running Linux and access stuff in a browser. I had Netflix working through Kodi on a Raspberry Pi, for example, but like I said, it was super janky. Maybe it’s better now, idk, but check out OpenELEC and Kodi. You’ll need some hardware to run it on.

      If you can self-host your videos, Jellyfin is pretty great, and I think there are a couple more options. You’ll need to get the content yourself though and connect it to the TV somehow (e.g. the Jellyfin app if you have a smart TV).

  • @[email protected]
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    926 days ago

    My vizio tv auto plays shows, ads, and light music if you leave it idling too long after you turn it on. Moving the remote down just once disables it till the next time your on home screen.