Summary

A federal judge criticized a Trump administration Justice Department lawyer who claimed they didn’t have to follow the judge’s oral order blocking deportations to El Salvador because it wasn’t in writing.

Judge Boasberg questioned why the administration ignored his directive to return immigrants to the US. The DOJ lawyer repeatedly refused to provide information about the deportations, citing “national security concerns.”

Frustrated, Boasberg ordered sworn declarations explaining what happened, quipping that he would issue a written order “since apparently my verbal orders don’t seem to carry much weight.”

  • @[email protected]
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    11 month ago

    Did he suffer any serious consequences, No, then why the fuck wouldn’t he disregard it and will continue to do so in the future. Why are people in power in this country either evil and inept or simply inept against the evil ones

  • candyman337
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    281 month ago

    Like at what point does everyone else in the government finally say “ok we have to treat them as treasonous” this is a madhouse full of complacent fools.

    • @[email protected]
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      31 month ago

      At this point I don’t see the politicians being the people to save us. Honestly don’t know what the military would do either. They’d probably fight internally until the MAGA component wins or gets squashed.

      So much can change so quickly. That’s usually how the big changes go, especially when they are unfavorable.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 month ago

        Save you from what? Is your life ruined? Are we all losing our rights in the US? Are we all being deported? How bad is your life right now, that you need “saving?”

        • @[email protected]
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          51 month ago

          With respect, I don’t think you’re very well-learned in history if you don’t see where this slippery slope leads for all of us.

          Then again, maybe you’re not arguing here in good faith and you’re just a troll.

          🤷

  • Verdant Banana
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    121 month ago

    way more than about Trump

    legal precedents that uphold other legal precedents are being dismantled like they already were being done away with before Trump

    more precedents that go away the more personal freedoms and civil liberties goes away

    need a revolution

  • @[email protected]
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    521 month ago

    Show cause why I shouldn’t throw your ass in the klink. That’s what happens to the rest of us if we ignore a court order.

    • @[email protected]
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      201 month ago

      He can’t be charged with a crime while in office or for anything he does in office. So, that’s why.

      • @[email protected]
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        1 month ago

        so arrest everyone in the department that did it. EVERYONE. secretary of [thing], and everyone who might have so much as seen the command moving down the chain.

        that’s what a law that wasn’t just an excuse to punish poor people would do.

        or just fucking arrest him anyway, fuck it, if laws don’t mean things, laws don’t mean things. that includes his special protection.

        but again, that would require the point of the law to be something other than punishing the poor.

        • @[email protected]
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          111 month ago

          I don’t disagree with you, but I think we both know how this will play out. Get ready to hide in the attic.

          • @[email protected]
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            71 month ago

            yeah. fuck my life. taking bets on how long I last before they kill me. ill have betting tables up in the morning.

              • @[email protected]
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                61 month ago

                I think I count as ‘swarthy’ and white depending on the century.

                but also I’m visibly queer and very loud about lefty politics.

                • @[email protected]
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                  51 month ago

                  Hmm. Do you live in a blue state? I hope so. You might be able to blend. Can you—is this the fucking 90s?—“butch up” for the gestapo long enough to slip away? I’m having flashbacks of the Midwest.

                  For me, I’m a man married to a man. I’m on a list. I’m somewhat nervous about that, but I’m white like milk an own a lot of polos and chinos, so I will have some warning before the shit hits me. Fingers crossed.

        • @[email protected]
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          71 month ago

          The more they let them act without any consequences for their actions shows us that the constitution means nothing nowadays. Throw him or the enablers in jail, but doing nothing means checks and balances are useless. I fear for the regular people. Power has gone to the fascists and oligarchs.

        • @[email protected]
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          21 month ago

          I’m in the guillotine crowd, so I say “everyone,” but I’m not holding my breath there will be any.

          • @[email protected]
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            31 month ago

            You guys are maybe being a little hasty… Many other members of the Trump administration can get forcibly hauled into court even if Trump has “immunity.”

        • @[email protected]
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          11 month ago

          Going to amuse me when the left picks up the 2nd amendment they have been talking shit about my whole life and use it for its intended purpose to kill a tyrant. This whole timeline makes my brain hurt

  • @[email protected]
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    641 month ago

    Enforce the law! Otherwise, there really is no turning back. US Democracy is dead. Fascism wins. 🇺🇸

  • Nemean_lion
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    141 month ago

    They don’t give a single fuck about any letter you make, any protest you do. Any law you say they broke. What the fuck are you going to do about ir? Until that answer is armed revolt they will not give a single fuck about anything you do.

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    471 month ago

    Uh oh! This Judge sounds PISSED! SOON Trump is going to get a STERNLY WRITTEN LETTER! And if they DEFY that? OH Boy! ANOTHER letter will be on the way!

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    So just to be clear, this is within the domain of “constitutional crisis” that the vast majority of Americans who graduated from high school will have certainly been taught about at some point. But precisely zero major news networks or newspapers are calling it as such.

    Evidently a comically dismaying proportion of us unitedstatesians need to be told when our own fucking house is on fire. And even then, 30ish% of us will deny it as the flesh melts off their own bones.

  • SinCave
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    41 month ago

    The same laws that make him President, are the same law in which we allow it

  • Nougat
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    901 month ago

    ☒ Soap box ☒ Ballot box ☒ Jury box ☐ Ammo box

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    His written orders won’t do anything either. Who knew the constitution can be so easily ripped to shreds by simply ignoring it.

    • @[email protected]
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      651 month ago

      This should have been fixed in the 1800s when Andrew Jackson defied the Supreme Court, but it was ignored and here we are

    • @[email protected]
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      51 month ago

      Asking respectively. What else can this judge do in the USA? Law is being blatantly ignored. This is dictatorship.

      • @[email protected]
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        31 month ago

        He can have members of the Trump administration dragged into court by U.S. Marshalls. And then if necessary, held in contempt of court and imprisoned.

    • @[email protected]
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      301 month ago

      At the end of Inglorious Basterds, Aldo Raines has his man kill Hans Landa’s assistant. Landa screams “You’ll be shot for that!” and Aldo says:

      “Shot? I don’t think so, more like chewed out. I been chewed out before.”

      During the first administration KellyAnne “SkankySkag” Conway received numerous fines for her near constant violations of the Hatch Act, eventually reaching $100,000, which she never paid. When asked about it, she casually dismissed it, saying “Let me know when they start talking about jail time.”

      Things like censure, polls, stern warnings, appeals to morality, etc. Mean less than nothing to these traitors. They are determined to destroy America, and nothing less than harsh imprisonment will get through to them. If we get through this, we need to viciously purge MAGA from society and prohibit it’s existence.

    • AutistoMephisto
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      371 month ago

      Judge Boasberg does have one other card he can play, according to FRCJ Rule 4.1(b). If the US Marshal service is unable or unwilling to carry out a federal court order, the Judge who issued the order can deputize individuals to carry it out.

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          Not just the military. I draw your attention to this, emphasis mine

          (a) In General. Process—other than a summons under Rule 4 or a subpoena under Rule 45 —must be served by a United States marshal or deputy marshal or by a person specially appointed for that purpose.

          Section (b) says:

          Enforcing Orders: Committing for Civil Contempt. An order committing a person for civil contempt of a decree or injunction issued to enforce federal law may be served and enforced in any district. Any other order in a civil-contempt proceeding may be served only in the state where the issuing court is located or elsewhere in the United States within 100 miles from where the order was issued.

          The line:

          a person specially appointed for that purpose.

          is interesting because it does not specify who is qualified to be appointed. Now, I am concerned that this language means that Judge Boasberg may only appoint one person, but if he seems it necessary, he could probably get away with appointing more.

          • @[email protected]
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            51 month ago

            Could he appoint one person who then assembles a “task force” of individuals who support them? Or do they have to be each appointed by the judge himself for that specific task?I think one guy isn’t going to cut it, but if 500 guys show up on the WH lawn to enforce the court order it might have some weight.

    • Wren
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      81 month ago

      Well, he criticized them… so. Lesson learned, right?

    • @[email protected]
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      91 month ago

      You should have seen the glare of severe consternation the judge cast towards the back of the exiting lawyer!!!