Summary
Sam Beard, organizer of Luigi Mangione’s legal defense fund, claims the dramatic “perp walk” resembling Hannibal Lecter’s treatment backfired on New York authorities, boosting donations to over $743,000.
Mangione, charged with murder and terrorism for allegedly killing UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, received heightened security during extradition, drawing public sympathy.
Critics argue the campaign glorifies violence, while supporters emphasize fair trial rights.
Mangione, who pleaded not guilty, faces the death penalty if convicted.
Given the success He should start his Presidental run right now. ( I want at least to see this movie )
A president once said “ I could shoot someone on fifth Ave. and not lose any votes”
I want to see a gun duel between Luigi and Trump. We can put together an Old West stage town, and let it play out.
I could shoot someone on fifth Ave. and not lose any votes
well, he hasn’t shot anyone, but he is responsible for many many many deaths.
Ya know, a certain citizen gone president recently employed the tactic to avoid persecution for his crimes… Can we drag the Mangione case another 3 ish years so Luigi can declare for presidency? Then (based on precedent) his case has to stall until after the election.
These government gooners literally cannot comprehend why people live this guy and hate them. It’d be funny if it wasn’t so irritating that these are the assholes in charge.
Counterpoint: They know exactly why people love him and why they are hated.
It’s time for a revolution.
This image is so ridiculous. Like he’s a danger so much that it took a platoon of people to parade this dude in cuffs. He allegedly killed one dude, he didn’t EAT the guy. It was blatantly obvious for everyone that this was a show of force, and it ironically makes them look weak as fuck.
You want me to respect your strength? Go put handcuffs on Trump. The rule of law is broken. The weak suffer the most and the rich pay to stay out of it.
I’m not a violent man. A death of another human is a complicated introspection for most people. Then there are others who don’t even consider the value or even a difference in perspective. Luigi is not some psychopath. Allegedly, he deliberately chose impact at the highest level he could. The representation of a broken and predatory system. It’s not ok that faceless entities who aren’t doctors can choose the life and death choices over the recommendations of doctors.
He killed one dude,
Stop saying this shit.
Why, is the court going to use random Lemmy comments as evidence?
It’s about being factual. Let’s not make this Reddit 2.0 with bs.
Also yes. Reddit is terrible at decided how crimes must have happened from an AP article with nothing but the main people’s names.
Reddit is where the wackos who will cancel you for suggesting any hint of “guilt” are! How is this any different? You can think the guy did it without believing he is guilty of murder or manslaughter.
this. I am tired of people saying “what if someone sees it!?” Because potential jurors are browsing reddit Luigi fan forums, a rando Lemmy server, Instagram Luigi fan accounts, or rando substack comments all at the same time. People are allowed to have opinions about the case. I think he did it. I don’t think he committed murder. He did a service and sacrificed himself. That’s the whole reason for the season.
Why, are you in favor of spreading misinformation?
Police in the US don’t investigate killings, they find a person they feel comfortable pinning it on, and hope the trial works in their favor. We really don’t know if this guy is the guy who shot someone, and NYPD has a long history of picking the wrong person to accuse based on their bias and not on facts or evidence. There’s every possibly he’s actually, in fact, innocent. So far all we’ve been told offically is largely circumstantial.
Yep. He didn’t do anything. Innocent into proven guilty.
If you want to be accurate, he was the primary suspect of the CEO shooting.
Thank you! Everyone has been saying this and it’s so cop-brained that it’s frustrating.
They have not proven that he killed anyone. He is innocent until proven guilty. When you accept that he actually did anything before he is convicted, you are aiding the police’s and prosecutor’s job by making the assumption that arrest = guilt.
That is what gets me, all these people who need guns and such to feel strong and tough. The pirates did that. The purpose of the Jolly Roger was to instill fear, but ultimately they wanted the other ship to surrender quickly and without a fight. Pirates were all about show to make victims be afraid of them. But ultimately they were just men in poor health.
“It’s horrible when anybody has their life cut short by another person, especially when it could have been prevented,” Beard says on Luigi. “But the same logic has to apply both ways, right?
“Preventing people from getting the healthcare that they need – that you and your company have access to and could provide them, but don’t do so because it would threaten your business model – that’s an act of violence, too,” Beard says.
Hello based department, we got a candidate here for you.
“Luigi” in reference to the name of his podcast not the person Luigi Mangione
Not just the healthcare they need, but also healthcare that they pay for.
It’s like they keep forgetting he is handsome
Doesn’t NY not support the death penalty?
It’s for the federal charges
His treatment caused about . 02% of the support for him.
United Heaths treatment of the rest of us caused the rest.
Exactly, if he allegedly murdered the CEO of an organization that doesn’t profit from the death and destruction of it’s customers then the public reaction would be completely different regardless of any perp walk PR stunt.
For profit insurance glorifies violence, not resisting it
Yes exactly. Accused of killing CEO of children’s charity known for amazing work with kids? Condemnation. Accused of killing CEO of organisation known as having caused a lot of suffering? Applause. I totally disagree with him being praised for possibly murdering someone, but I totally understand why people are doing it.
Luigi appears to have given his life in the service of the innocent. He shot an evil man who killed thousands of innocent people, but whose compatriots had bought the law to make their killings legal.
And his writings? Nothing but compassion, benevolence, and an unshakable sense of justice.
Luigi has all the hallmarks of a classical saint. He’s literally a martyr for the innocent. He gave his life to help people he will never meet.
As far as I am concerned, the man is literally a saint. Saint Luigi of Baltimore. And if they execute him, they will multiply his power a thousand fold.
OK. I disagree.
As far as I am concerned, the man is literally a saint. Saint Luigi of Baltimore. And if they execute him, they will multiply his power a thousand fold.
I understand the sentiment, but I’ll be shocked and not unpleasantly surprised if I travel to the future and find Luigism is the predominant religion and political system.
Man, I’m so sick of living in America surrounded by cultist/religious nutjobs.
Well, also the fact that he looks literally nothing like the dude from the security camera stills, the police have been bungling every single step of the evidence process since before they “caught” Mangione, annnd finally all the work theyve done to preprejudice the public into thinking he did it by organizing documentaries demonizing Mangione while being too busy to provide the details of their “evidence” to Mangione’s legal council (which they are legally obligated to do!)
Well, also the fact that he looks literally nothing like the dude from the security camera stills
I don’t know where this keeps coming from. I’ve got prosopagnosia, and even i can see they look the same.
It’s the most insane cope I’ve ever seen and I don’t get it either. It’s an absolutely stupid theory for multiple reasons, mainly because all the “real” killer has to do is pop another CEO and suddenly the feds look very fucking stupid. Second, if Luigi really isn’t the guy, it is trivial to prove he wasn’t there. The shooter was tracked basically from the moment he set foot in new York, surely there would be some footage of Luigi literally anywhere else during that time.
He was arrested in Pennsylvania, what if was never in New York that night?
Would be trivial to prove with security footage.
Pretty sure it’s a joke/reminder about jury nullification. “Luigi Mangione obviously isn’t guilty – the guy they got on camera looks nothing like him.”
Poes law I guess. I’ve seen too many people legit conspiracy posting that Luigi is a scapegoat.
What because he was walking around with a get charged with murder starter kit and a signed confession thanking the feds for their service?
Nah seems legit.
I’m not saying his arrest was clean, I’m saying it was definitely him and not someone else. Maybe they used illegal means to find him or whatever, but literally just finding a random guy to charge is braindead level thinking for reasons already mentioned.
No, I pretty much supported him the moment it was clear that the CEO toppled over from a pre-existing condition called “being vulnerable to lead projectiles.”
Only 9mm too, what a nerd. Back in my day, we were expected to have built up an immunity to 9mm by high school.
According to RFK the best way to get immunity is for everyone to cop a 9mm lead projectile, instead of using any form of preventative measure.
I hear nowadays if you can’t tank a 5.56 to the chest by 8th grade they hold you back a year.
The optics the recently indicted (and later hastily pardoned) mayor being one of the guys perp walking the sympathetic suspect probably didn’t help them either.
Right? Most corrupt fuckin cop, there strictly for his own photo op of course, escorting a political-divide-spanning legitimate American folk hero. Seems like a pretty predictable response to me.
Who would’a thunk cops are really bad at reading the room?
Cops will shoot your dog for barking then wonder why people think they’re assholes
They read the room they cared about just fine. They wanted to let rich people know they’ll always go above and beyond for them, and they did.
“Okay guys, we’ve got an attractive man with a huge amount of public support behind him regardless of guilt. How can we not turn him into a martyr?”
“Hannibal Lecter walk?”
“Yeah that won’t backfire at all!”
The authoritarian mind can’t help itself.
it is exactly the bane and superman perpwalk.
lol what could they possibly expect him to do that necessitates having multiple men with rifles?
While they didn’t need to go overboard like they did, the threat model is reversed. They are worried about what other people might do to him.
Ie: attempt to free him.
Yep, this is in direct response to what happened to Lee Harvey Oswald.
LOL. Looks like some orange angel taking a walk into hell.
What they don’t seem to realize is that Mangione himself isn’t all that important. Whether they kill him or successfully vilify him, in a few years people won’t be thinking about the man himself all that much. Their continued hardship will be what they think about, and as long as it’s the capital class’s fault, the anger will keep growing.
This isn’t about a man anymore. It’s about an idea.
I hope the jury nullifies the charges, but he’s become a symbol for the common people of America because he acted on the fury and frustration that hundreds of millions of us feel. You can’t really kill an idea once it gains hold in the minds of that much of the populace.
It would be really funny if the jury nullifies (like so hard it’s an acquittal, not just hung so they have to do another trial), and then he went and shot another scumbag CEO.
I would nullify again
Obviously he’s innocent and being framed and therefore should be found innocent, but if he gets out he’s going to be watched like a hawk. He’ll have a whole team dedicated to his surveillance. Again, super innocent, didn’t do it.
I feel like they’d disappear him anyway as a warning.
This reminds me of V for Vendetta and the end results of V’s campaign, where all the citizenry donned the Fawkes masks together
No, I’m Luigicus!
Wait, wrong movie.
Behind this mask is more than a man, Mr. Creedy. Behind this mask is an idea, and ideas cannot be killed.
Allegedly
The shooter is immortal with or without Luigi. The shooter showed us they bleed and they’re scared and stumbling now to stay in control.
They have to sit and marinate with their mortality now. It scares them knowing they aren’t that different from us
And knowing that they are just as expendable to us as we are to them.
This. Especially because it took days to actually find him. Imagine how pants-shittingly-scared the oligarchs would be if one got capped and they couldn’t find the killer?
Exactly. They would allege some look-alike did it, so you wouldn’t know about it. That might even be what happened here.
I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what happened here.
The odds of finding the real culprit after they’ve already eluded capture for 5+ days are extremely low.
Additionally, the evidence they supposedly found on him is extremely suspicious:
- An untraceable gun that he allegedly kept on him the entire time even though the shooter discarded everything else.
- A confession note that starts by talking about how much he respects the cops.
That doesn’t just sound like the sort of thing that would be planted on him… that sounds like the sort of thing that would be planted on him by an idiot.
Unless they have actual body cam footage of them catching him and finding the evidence, I have to assume he was framed.
Who says they have found the killer? All I see is a scapegoat, snatched up by a panicking NYPD
And that’s why I think that he’s not the one. They scrambled to find whatever evidence and pinpoint to anyone remotely similar to make an example out of him (this comment can be full of conspiracy). My take is they will pin someone, make an example out of him and demotivate future Green Guys.
But the issue is just a social class problem. A CEO is killed, media labels him as a domestic terrorist, a narcissist destroys the whole country (Elmo) and he’s a “hero”, especially if he uses one of his 13 meat shields.
Don’t forget that Elmo is also an autist. You could just as easily and just as truthfully say an evil autist is destroying the country.
I don’t know why you’d want to politicise a mental disorder like that, but since you’re already doing it, you might as well go all the way.
Luigi may live or die, but the Adjuster remains
