• @zenpocalypse@lemm.ee
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    471 month ago

    I like Harris just fine and she would have been a far better president than Donnie, but this is how JD Vance becomes President.

    • @FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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      131 month ago

      You got that backward. Republicans have stupid constituents, and the democrats have a stupid party. Republicans have been playing the long game and reaping the rewards of decades worth of planning and posturing. Democrats can’t agree on a vision. The democrats strength is also their biggest problem. They’re a big tent party that’s inclusive to all and all ideas. In practice, that means they lack a single vision to fight for and never long-term plan. If they quit focusing on the fringe and instead focused on the class war, they could have that singular, uniting vision.

  • @aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world
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    951 month ago

    We still have three years to go before the next election, assuming one actually happens.

    At this stage in the game, the only thing that these types of polls are going to reveal is who has the most name recognition.

    In other words, everyone calm down.

    • @CarnivorousCouch@lemmy.world
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      161 month ago

      Thank you! Any time this kind of polling shows up on Lemmy, users seem to think this is the Plan of the Democratic Leadership Cabal, rather than an incredibly premature name recognition test.

      People want to vote for people they have favorable impressions of who they also think others will vote for. Without other frontrunners, who emerge over time, it’s not surprising that polled Democrats would recognize and still support the candidate that 75 million people voted for five months ago.

      If you want other candidates (I do), identify them and figure out how to help them build their profile now.

      • @Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world
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        It’s crazy how fast incredibly premature polling turns into unstoppable freight train that cannot be interrupted by anything but a certified act of God signed and dated with appropriate postage to oh shit oh God what’s happening someone should have planned something.

    • Omega
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      131 month ago

      Just like the polls that show McDonald’s, Taco Bell, or Chic fil a as America’s favorite restaurant in X state. It doesn’t take too many idiots to outweigh everyone else.

  • originalucifer
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    641 month ago

    fucking morons.

    people demanding progressives, but no, lets pretend conservative democrats have a fucking chance.

    how tone-deaf can you fucking be.

    • @waddle_dee@lemmy.world
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      I still feel like Harris had to gave been handicapped on progressive policies from the DNC. There’s simply no way, with her record and history, that she wouldn’t have campaigned on a completely separate platform than Biden unless he, and the DNC forbid it. Now, that brings about a new set of issues; in which she was unable to stand up to the establishment and say, fuck you guys. She used to be pretty progressive in the senate and it all went away with the VP.

      • @kreskin@lemmy.world
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        Oh a secret progressive, neat. She could have chosen up until the last few days of the election to jettison the zionist garbage messaging from her campaign and choose to win and she didnt. Her campaign had polls showing she’d lose and why. Unless she literally had a gun to her head I dont want to hear how progressive she is.

        On top of that she’s married to a zionist and her campaign manager was her husbands brother, also a zionist. If she wants to promise to ditch those two losers from anything relating to politics I’ll consider voting for her, otherwise she can piss right on off in every single other time she runs as well. No more zionists candidates. Reform jewish people are fine, but we need to stop trying to prop up right wing warmongers from whats supposedly the left leaning party.

    • @oxysis@lemm.ee
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      311 month ago

      Considering the Democratic Party has done this 3 times in a row and that they refuse to primary wildly unpopular members of their own party.

      They are extremely tone deaf and out of touch with what the voters want. It’s why I want the progressives in the party to split off. The progressives are screwed if they stay, so why not leave and have an actual fucking chance?

      Bernie Sanders got screwed over by the super delegates who all went for unpopular Hillary Clinton. Imagine how wildly different things would be if he was the Democratic nominee in 2016?

      • originalucifer
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        101 month ago

        agreed. we have assholes like obama and bill clinton also to blame for sinking bernie in 2016.

        they are 100% part of why trump is president right now.

      • Baron Von J
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        Considering the Democratic Party has done this 3 times in a row and that they refuse to primary wildly unpopular members of their own party.

        The primaries are open to anybody who meets the requirements. We don’t have to wait for “the party” to provide us with better candidates. The better candidates just have to follow the process to declare themselves a candidate. And then we just have to show up and vote for them.

        Bernie Sanders got screwed over by the super delegates who all went for unpopular Hillary Clinton.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate#2016_election

        Sanders initially said that the candidate with the majority of pledged delegates should be the nominee; in May 2016, after falling behind in the elected delegate count, he shifted, pushed for a contested convention and arguing that, “The responsibility that superdelegates have is to decide what is best for this country and what is best for the Democratic Party.”[46][54] Ultimately, Clinton won the nomination without relying on the votes of superdelegates; she led Sanders by a substantial number of elected delegates (from primary and caucus votes), as well by a substantial margin in the popular vote.

        Also at the top of that page:

        In 2018, the Democratic National Committee reduced the influence of superdelegates by barring them from voting on the first ballot at the Democratic National Convention, allowing them to vote only in a contested convention.

        Imagine how wildly different things would be if he was the Democratic nominee in 2016?

        It’s sad to think about how much better things could have been, and also if we had had Gore in 2000. But we shouldn’t forget that Clinton won the primaries popular vote by enough that the superdelegates’ votes didn’t matter.

  • @exploitedamerican@lemm.ee
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    241 month ago

    Mmore proof the neo liberal democratic party is a controlled opposition party who bows to the will of the same Wall Street military and prison industry profiteers that guide the policies of the right. Trump is going to be handed another 4 years after they repeal the 22nd amendment. this country is a fascist hellscape

  • @Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world
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    61 month ago

    People need to upvote this for visibility, not disagreement. Seems like most of us agree, fuck no.

    People need to see what BS is coming.

    But then again I’m just assuming that’s how lemmy works and if we downvote it will get lost.

  • @dhork@lemmy.world
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    21 month ago

    Surely they must mean “Favorite candidate to run away from”…

    (I’m kidding, though. I liked Harris as a candidate, but not having a real primary did the Democrats no favors. I blame Biden for not dealing realistically with his aging more than Harris.)