Need to see a better source than a tweet that I can’t find.
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I can’t find any sources or reporting on this. Not to say it’s not happening but can’t even find some dumb Musk tweet about this
The money THEOR PARENTS PAID INTO AND WORKED TOWARDS. They are literally entitled to it. It is their parent money!!!
This only ends one way, with nooses and guillotines. It is up to the people how quickly it ends.
Nah, this ends with America so bankrupt that states split up from the federation. Maybe, just maybe, the workers unions will be strong enough to claim one of these new countries, but most likely it ends with seperate kingdoms, each ruled by a different billionaire.
That is the goal, I think.
That is why i say everything else the Trump government is doing right now is just distraction.
Unfortunately many of their distractions are already global catastrophes by themselves.
Trump behaves more or less as you’d expect if you model him as a sock puppet with Elon Musk and Putin taking turns as the hand up his ass.
Musk, meaning Thiel, meaning Yarvin.
I pulled up next to a guy the other day and the passenger looked like Elon at first glance. My first thought was if I could shoot him in the face and escape long enough to at least make a few phone calls. That’s how much this guy deserves to be deleted. I’d risk my life to end it all.
He learned from trump, steal from children
Elon Musk is ultra paranoid for a reason. He has 20 bodyguards on a normal day and also has a secret service detail. He is not an easy target.
There’s good reason to be paranoid. 400 yards is a cake shot for even a mediocre sniper. Just about any gun store today sells top notch sniper rifles.
This is why Thomas Matthew Crooks failed. He relied on a bottom rung AR15 when he could have ditched it for even a simple hunting rifle with a scope. To be fair he was using iron sights. And was under a lot of stress from just being discovered by a cop (even though the secret service had seen him earlier) and Trump fidgety movements basically threw off the shot.
I need to mention, however that we should not idolize Thomas Crooks. He was not some hero. What he actually wanted to do was to go on a mass murder spree and he wanted to start it off by killing a politician. He didn’t care which. He targeted Trump for no other reason than he was the closest and most convenient at the time. If a local representative or the state senator or the city’s mayor was closer, he would gone after that politician. Trump being the target was a coincidence.
Do you have a source for that? I didn’t think they had anything conclusive about his motives. Haven’t looked into it for a while though.
I will search for them later. What I surmised was from reading multiple articles about him and what he was planning. He didn’t seem to have a political motive nor did he have any strong beliefs. When the investigators got his laptop and phone to look at, it seemed that he was quite casual in his planning. In fact the absolute last thing in his history he looked at before he went off to try to do what he did was porn.
You would think that he was a smart guy to actually get around the secret service. But it was entirely dumb luck. He did use a drone to survey the location before hand, which was unprecedented and smart, but that was it.
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Also apparently carrying his youngest kid around.
Yeah, he’s betting that literal assassins will value the life of his kid more than him
And that is the most contemptuous shit action of them all.
Yep. C’mon America. How long you gonna let these nazis fuck you?
The best part is how his efficiency improvements will cost the government half a trillion dollars 😆
Efficiently extracting tax dollars into private bank accounts.
It’ll result in Musk’s douchebag billionaire buddies not getting the extra tax scrutiny. It’s a feature not a bug.
well then it is settled he is the embodiment of orphan crushing machine
So billionaires can take daddy’s money but not the poors? Got it.
Please, Smithers, who are they going to complain to? Their parents?
How much does an orphaned 8 year old get a month from social security? I would assume that all goes directly to the orphanage or foster home?
What is he supposed to pay his own rent and not drop $2k on Paw Patrol.
I don’t know about orphaned, but my guardians got $300/month in the 90s because my mom was on social security disability. And when I was still with my mom, I think she got $700/month on social security disability. That’s with me included?
Obviously this is different from what orphans would get, and 25+ years ago. But if Musk had stolen it from us then, our situation would’ve been even worse…and it wasn’t great to begin with. Even back then, with my mom having an incurable disability, she had to be careful of how much money extra she made from odd jobs lest they take it all away (people on disability aren’t allowed to save or have above X amount in income or the benefits will be revoked). And apartments in the area were $700/month, and we weren’t in section 8 housing so all of her benefits went to rent–and that was before utilities, food, etc.
From what I’ve heard, similar restrictions are in place now. Nobody’s getting a plush ride on benefits, ever, and it’s a struggle to even get on them to begin with. Even with things that are 100% disabling and incurable.
I’ve heard that before and it still baffles me. People on disability aid have to maintain poverty to or else be subjected to greater poverty. It sounds like an obvious joke from Futurama. Except it’s real and the joke is the system.
SSDI, the main disability insurance benefit from social security, is not means tested. People pulling in millions can get it too, as long as they’re disabled (and qualify from working long enough in social security paying jobs). Usually that means they’re too disabled to work, but might have income from their investments or other sources. SSDI isn’t means tested, but does look to your earned income to determine whether you qualify (after all, the disability payments are designed to offset the loss of earned income, but someone who does still earn doesn’t need that stream of income as much).
SSI is the other disability insurance benefit from social security, and is explicitly an anti-poverty program that is means tested. So you have to demonstrate a lack of income in order to qualify.
Note that you can collect both, with concurrent benefits, but the SSI means test looks to your SSDI income, that counts against you.
There are a lot of anti poverty programs with pretty abrupt cutoffs based on income, or earned income, or even wealth, but many of the disability based ones have less stringent means testing or no means testing at all.
Musk should get prison time for this. But instead he will bs rewarded from Republicans for saving money and when the rest of social security checks stop coming in, yet they keep taking the money from our pockets, where exactly will all that money go?
Trump and Musk about to rob us of our social security benefits and what you bet part of it ends up in Puntins pockets.
If I remember correctly, the money goes to a guardian for the benefit of the child.
20 years ago I knew someone who’s husband was on a motorcycle and was run over and killed by a commercial truck driver (I think he was falling sleep or something.) She was a stay-at-home mom of 4 kids at the time. In the end between the settlement and the social security, she was able to continue to stay home to raise the children and college wasn’t going to be a problem either.
I haven’t thought of that family in years. In typing that out, I’m realizing that the American dream is still alive and well! Kids just have to be ready to sacrifice one of their parents to get it.
But that kid wasn’t orphaned. And I’m guessing that kid wasn’t getting social security. It’s possible parts of the settlement went into some kind of trust fund which the child wouldn’t have access to until reaching a certain age, or however else it was structured.
I have a pair of cousins twice removed whose father died, and their mom gets Social Security checks to help support them. Messed up part is the cousins live with my aunt (their great grandmother) because their mom and grandma are both too messed up to care for them, but if my aunt tried to get the SS money their mom would try to get the kids back (and neglect them) so she wouldn’t lose the check.
Survivor children of social security beneficiaries do get social security, even if it’s just one parent. It’s not particularly common because you’d need to be young enough to qualify as a child, and your parent needs to be old enough to qualify for social security benefits, but some dudes have kids in their 50s and 60s.
Kids get survivor benefits through social security from each parent lost. My 8 year old son gets $900/mo. I’m sure it varies by… everything.
Doesn’t have to be an orphan. My grandparents adopted me and I got $600/mo. from dad’s Social Security (80s money) until I graduated high school. He was a WWII vet, so I’m sure that played into it a bit.
When I was in college, I received no money for aid because my parents made too much. My friend, whose mother had abandoned him to be raised by his extremely wealthy grandmother, was still considered to be getting $0 of parental help, so he got tons of federal aid.
I worked full time through college; he didn’t. He loved to argue that free college would be “regressive” because rich kids wouldn’t have to pay for it.
That persons name?
Nicole, the fediverse chick.
I’m sure he’ll be super bummed about it whenever he wakes up from his latest k-nap.
I’m getting sick and tired of updating my The Ballad of the Techno-Prophet: A Decade of Deception
Elon after labeling orphans as fraudsters and taking away their survivor benefits that they are entitled to and deserve: “God, I just sniffle I don’t understand why people hate me crocodile tears”
Hanlon is currently using his razor for other purposes.
At SOME point persistent, weaponized incompetence has to be attributed to callousness or evil.
Only a complete buffoon would give another buffoon raw unchecked power like this. God damn this is the lowest point in US history.
Lowest point in US history so far
Yo dawg, I heard you like buffoons…
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how much time do you think Xzibit spent on how to spell his name? Is the “z” really necessary? Was it a design decision?
I feel like there is a slight chance of some seeing Xibit and pronouncing it zibit (like xerxes)
zz-zzibit
are we all idiots then? because all i see is a bunch of scholars talking about how wrong this all is.
Scholars are irrelevant. It’s the question of “Is Elon evil, or incompetent?”
At a certain point we have to assume evil as his mistakes are continuous and on going
we’re on the same page, so i hope i don’t come off as disrailing. i’m just shooting the shit.
i should have said ‘celebrities’ rather than ‘scholars’. scholars are actually screaming their lungs out right now.
and there’s no question. tt’s not incompetence. the guy owns a fucking rocket company.
but falling down a bunch of stairs is a lot more razor-friendly than being pushed, so i’ve now taken to practicing old pagan rituals to invoke time and gravity.
I am just trying to give engagement :) Lemmy needs more activity and it starts with us dumbasses.
I never took what you said as hostile; I feel your comment was worth responding to.
I just wish the media would quit enabling by pretending any of this is normal or accidental…
Maybe pagan rituals are the answer… we really need some [redacted]
oester is coming up, and i hear the christians love bunnies and eggs but can’t quite explain why…
yeah, we’re totally on the same page. i find myself almost wanting to disagree with you on something (edit: :P)
Hanlon’s Razor has never applied to fascists.
Yeah, but your fact totally ruins my joke.
It was a good joke.
aw shucks. you’re so sweet
Aw, you too. ( ˘ ³˘)♥︎
Literal supervillainy.
Some orphans will take matters into their own hand
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They’ve also cut PEPFAR. PEPFAR is a program which, among other things, provides antiretrovirals to people with HIV/AIDS in poorer countries. Approximately twenty million people, including half a million children will now start to slowly die without access to these drugs.
For comparison’s sake, Hitler killed 13.6 million people. History is very likely to end up remembering Trump as the single deadliest regime in history.
That’s some Heritage Foundation level of undercutting Hitler’s death toll.
Talking about Odious Lusting After Fortunes
Warning everyone that I could not find a source for this and this Twitter post isn’t any evidence in itself. So if you’re saying I told you so, then you’re just as susceptible as the people who believe $300m was being sent to 11yos without any explanation.
I found two sources for this info.
Who could see their Social Security benefits stopped?
Government Executive reports that the SSA memo proposes ceasing payments that are made to people without Social Security numbers. While people without an SSN are not eligible to receive Social Security benefits of their own, there are scenarios where they can accept benefits on behalf of an eligible person who does have an SSN as that person’s “representative payee.”
A link in that text goes to https://www.govexec.com/management/2025/03/ssa-weighs-axing-payments-170000-beneficiaries/403740/ and it gives an example:
That task could be arduous, as finding payees is already so difficult that at times the agency turns to institutional payees like child welfare agencies, said Romig. SSA staff also have to assess the suitability of payees.
“Say you’re a kid and you don’t have a payee for a while — they stop paying the benefit until they sort it out,” she said of the potential for interruptions to benefits.
It may be that the OP read that and extrapolated it to mean orphans would be cut off … which may or may not be true.
Those are for SSA, not SBA. They don’t explain why SBA would be brokering business loans with 11yos. There is likely a valid explanation here, but the media doesn’t need to get up in arms until more details are available.
There’s nothing unlawful or untwart about an 11yr old getting a business loan if they have a business, that’s just a motivated kid. If not investigate and then shut it down if it’s fraud, don’t just read the title and cut it based off that.
You clearly don’t know the basics of how an SBA loan works so I’m not sure why you are even making statements as if you’re an expert.
Also, I’m not giving an opinion on the legality of the situation. I’m stating the Twitter post is based on no provided evidence so everyone in this thread defending against another ridiculous statement with more ridiculous statements shows that both sides are equally willfully ignorant and susceptible to propaganda.
I’m on the side that thinks it’s likely a record keeping error because the names do not match the SSNs. Also, banks are the actual lenders behind SBAs and it’s highly unlikely that in one specific year, banks decided to loan out over $300m to over thousands of businesses with credit checks that did not match the name returned on an SSN with the name of the person being lent too.
That’s not a counterargument that’s a bad attempt to strawman. Similarly there are zero age restrictions on an SBA loan, none zero.
There’s no need to defend against either, they’re both legal.
Probably, that doesn’t change the fact that it wouldn’t be illegal even if the ages are correct.
I don’t see anything about SBA in the articles above.
DOGE looks to be what’s getting all up in arms here. If there’s suspicion of corruption, investigate, Don’t just cut it all off! This isn’t a car factory, it’s food and shelter, aka the economy!
Of course I think he knows this and is actually trying to bring about a recession so he can seize whatever power he can
I agree, but the Twitter post isn’t DOGE and is potentially incorrect. You don’t battle disinformation with more disinformation.
You think children are getting undeserved money from the government.
I think children are getting money from the government.
We are not the same. </meme>
Regardless of evidence provenance, children need to be our most sacred class of people, followed by the elderly and disabled. It shouldn’t even be a question about how and why we take care of them, we just fucking should.
Misinformation is real, so I see part of your point, but the people outraged at this are WILDLY different from the people outraged that kids might be getting money they don’t “deserve”. Can we not just be nice to each other? This isn’t actually a zero-sum game.
No, I actually think SBA lenders are not sending any money to 11yos. I think this is most likely a record keeping error.
I do also think the Twitter post is confusing SSA and SBA. The SSA sending social security I am 100% for. SBA lenders sending money to business I am also 100%, even if they are 11yos. I just think it is highly unlikely that in a single year, banks decided to loan an unprecedented $300m to 11yos and that those thousands of loans all had mismatching names with their SSNs.
I’m just saying everyone shouldn’t go rallying behind this person who is making claims without any evidence. It’s just as dumb as DOGE.
