As the article says, it’s history repeating itself. This one made more foundational changes to the formula than 6 did over 5, and once again, if you’re looking to play a Civ game, the old game is still going to be cheaper. I loved 6 when it came out, but when friends were curious about dipping their toes in, I just referred them to 5 because it was almost as good and far cheaper to try out. Civ 6 charts compared to 5 around the same time period are similar. I haven’t picked up 7 yet just because I’m still trying to get through other games, but I’m looking forward to it.
I just referred them to 5 because it was almost as good
Why do you consider Civ 6 better than 5?
Edit for anyone else wanting to answer: Please specify whether you’re including Brave New World (or Gods and Kings) in your comparison, since those expansions significantly improved upon the original Civ 5 release.
On a technical level, it functioned better. On an artistic level, I liked the look a lot better. On a gameplay level, they were pretty similar, but I liked what they did with city tiles in 6.
I’m not the person that you asked, but I do hold the same opinion. My biggest reasons are:
- Civs are far more incentivised to expand in VI, resulting in more conflict
- Districts make city placement a much more complicated question
- The city state influence game is much more interesting than just a spending race and also has more game-changing rewards
- The culture and science victories are much more interactive with other civs now, rather than just hiding away and waiting for a bar to fill
I don’t think V is bad by any means. It was the one that got me into the series after bouncing off III and IV. I just think that most of the changes in VI were improvements
Are you including Brave New World in that comparison? I’ve never played Civ 5 without it.
Yes, and Gods & Kings. I did technically play the game without them but it was long enough ago now that I don’t really remember it without them
Thanks for the perspective. :)
Bring back the UI team from 6 and I’m sold.
As always the best route is to wait for first expansion and buy it then for like $40. Most of the bugs should be worked out by then, and the first expansion usually has all the original planned content that they ran out of time and rushed the game out before it was ready to go.
Incorporates 3rd-party DRM: Denuvo Anti-tamper
Requires 3rd-Party Account: 2K Account for Online Interactions
Somebody please wake me up when these atrocities are gone. (And thanks, Steam, for making them easy to discover.)
Linux port doesn’t have denuvo (: Don’t ask me how I know.
Do you know who made the port?
Aspyr, the ones who made the civ 6 port
Aren’t they the same company who made the abysmal Star Wars Battlefront remaster?
Yes
aspyr made the linux ports since alpha centauri (the best civ that has ever been made) afair
They do more Linux and Mac porting than any other company I know. Back in the day I believe they were actually game developer, but they seem to have become specialized in porting games specifically.
I don’t think so. There’s no mention of it on their site.
I can’t find it anywhere, I must have mis-remembered
Maybe they did the port but don’t want to claim it because the game sucks ass.
Um, firaxis
What makes you think that? It’s possible that they did it in-house, of course, but there’s no precedent for it. No previous Civ had a linux version done in-house.
I meant that it’s an official port, don’t know who didi it, sorry. But it was available on the high seas on the release day.
also no hotseat multiplayer
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I own 6 but still havent played it much.5, on the other hand, I still play a few hours a week.
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But… I already have it, though. I just never play it because I am pretty happy with 5 and it runs better on my macbook.
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Same with Paradox games. 4X in general is just really hard to get right on release because of how many interlinking systems there are, so waiting for balance updates at a minimum is never a bad idea.
I’m still playing 4
Me too. It’s still the best and the most moddable.
Realism Invictus* amazing mod for 4. Many other great mods also!
I never even knew you could mod it
Holy shit, 5 is 15 years old now?! It still feels new. How old is 3?! Because that is my first civ
My first was Civ1 and I’ve played hell out of bith 1 and 3. Perhaps feel the same about 3 as you about 5.
I’m not paying $120 Australian for it no matter how improved it is
Yeah that’s honestly the main thing for me too. It’s $120 Canadian for the Deluxe version. My price point is like… $30, especially since by all accounts it’s not even finished.
Has there ever been a finished civ game on launch since DLC existed?
Nope. Paradox and EA are the same.
EA is about mtx, not dlc
Why would you ever buy the deluxe version of any game?
Civ 7 is out now? Jesus. I can only handle the strategic view from civ 5
5 is the best one imo
No ghandi = fuck you.
You know they’re going to bring him back as DLC
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Civ6 still isn’t in a state that I’m happy with playing it over civ 5, or even civ4. What makes them think I’d give civ7 the time of day?
My philosophy is that Civ 5 and Civ 6 are just fine. My friend was going to buy 7 on release and I was like “yeah, but you can just go play Civ 6. It’s not like it’s a bad game just because the new one is out.” And I’m glad I convinced him otherwise because of how “okay” Civ 7 has been so far. Nothing against the game, I just already have the last three Civ games with all DLC and there is still a mountain of content that we already have to play with each other.
It’s honestly been one of the most disappointing games I’ve ever picked up. Civ 6 was my first. I would play it well into the night. I was addicted.
At this point I forgot civ 7 even came out until I saw this to remind me. I played maybe 250 turns total over a couple games and dropped it. I have no desire to pick it up. The map generation is bad and the age system is formulaic. Makes it feel like on the rails for the same thing every single game.
I haven’t played it and hate nearly everything I have seen about the age system, but they did make the map generation more varied in the latest patch. They’ve called the map inadequacies a priority to work on, so it will probably get better if you return to it down the line.
I mean, each of these games are just the same as the previous but with less content more or less?
They do make changes throughout the series, but every new game is a complete reset to a basic game so they can sell you all the DLC and expansions to make it into a full game.
From what I’ve seen, Civ 7 is trying too hard to be Humankind. I don’t really want try it.
I mean, the ages thing grew on me. It was way too common in other civs to just snowball early and dominate the rest. Any modern civilization was just bad, because by the time they got online it was over.
Yeah, I am enjoying the age mechanic as a new approach to the formula. It’s not without its flaws, but in previous Civs after a certain point I just stopped playing/didn’t finish games when the outcome was clear. I’m doing that less now.
Honestly the flaws I have the biggest complaints about is the God awful UI.
Incorrect tool tips, no drag and drop, no ui for city connectivity, no renaming cities, disappearing entities.
It’s genuinely painful at times.
Big agree. Figuring out over building with the interface was so frustrating! Seeing city connectivity too.
It also speeds up the games a bit. I simply do not have the time as a full adult to sink 10+ hours into a single game. I have actually finished every game of Civ 7 I’ve played so far, which has never happened with any prior Civ installments at my current playtime.
