• @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    9817 days ago

    This is why “fake it till you make it” should’ve been bullied out of existence.

    What is this guy even saying? No one talks like that.

    It’s like being a cashier and saying “we are currently zeroed on our balances 🤓” , lmao. Not only do you not have enough info to make this claim (ever), but you were beyond incompetent with the failure.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    4518 days ago

    It’s not like in the movies where the red lights and alarms start going off to say you’re getting hacked.

    • MHLoppyOP
      link
      fedilink
      5918 days ago

      Yeah it just says “Michael Waltz has added you to the group” lmao

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    22
    edit-2
    18 days ago

    It would suck for the Atlantic and Jeff Goldberg, but I almost hope that they charge him with distributing classified info for posting the plans. The courts would absolutely WRECK the government in that case

    • HobbitFoot
      link
      fedilink
      English
      2018 days ago

      That’s probably why the government is saying nothing in the chat is classified.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        717 days ago

        Even if the courts ruled against them ( probably after 5 years of waffling about) what enforcement is going to happen?

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    116 days ago
    • Write to the group chat on a commercial platform with your non government phone (and have at least one member of the group in russia at the time)
  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    1417 days ago

    Elon…We are Go for lunch!..I mean Launch!

    … And the vehicle is going thru MECO Main engine cutoff… That’s when the vehicle is at its highest hydrozunamic temperature range…

    All this shit is old school NASA lingo that should stay in NASA where it matters. At home, I don’t run around texting my wife “main motor engaged” when the washing machine starts to go chacka chacka. I say "yes ma’am, I’m doing the laundry.

    We are launching this rocket in 5 minutes. Oh man look at how awesome the fireball looks! Stuff like that, not cryptic NASA shit that nobody cares about other than the engineers and the crew.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    2917 days ago

    This is the kind of shit people who larp Call of Duty say

    People who actually do this for their job do not talk like this

    • kamenLady.
      link
      fedilink
      English
      11
      edit-2
      17 days ago

      They are larpers - but i would even say real government larpers (is that a thing?) would do a much better job playing the government, than the trump bunch.

      Larpers are known to be passionate about the subject.

    • Refurbished Refurbisher
      link
      fedilink
      English
      1017 days ago

      The more you grow older, the more you realize everyone is LARPing everything, and it has always been that way.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      3818 days ago

      They’re larping James Bond/Jason Bourne/Jack Ryan, they are the government, and they’re coming across as more Other Barry/Len Trexler (post Ludovico technique)/Nikolai Jakov.

    • MHLoppyOP
      link
      fedilink
      6718 days ago

      In case you’re not joking, they are the government - see the linked context (I’ve added a second “context” link with the exact screenshot)

  • Basic Glitch
    link
    fedilink
    English
    5617 days ago

    Also haven’t heard anyone mentioning this, but late on the Friday before this story was published, Hegseth’s chief of staff sent a late night memo threatening anyone that leaks classified information to the press by saying they’re going to start doing polygraph tests at DOD, and said

    “If this effort results in information identifying a party responsible for an unauthorized disclosure,” then such information “will be referred to the appropriate criminal entity for criminal prosecution,”

    So threatening to turn Department of Defense employees over to the authorities for leaking classified information to reporters if they fail a polygraph (which isn’t even admissible in court bc they give false positives so often).

    Then it turns out, oops the guy trying to intimidate everyone texted classified information to a reporter in a group chat and now it’s a story in the Atlantic

    https://apnews.com/article/leaks-pentagon-polygraph-trump-investigation-685b08e14d813050a722cec89eb5c323

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      18
      edit-2
      17 days ago

      Polygraphs aren’t scientific anyway. All you’re really doing is seeing if they’re nervous or not.

      Making someone nervous by threatening them with a polygraph is arguably more effective than the polygraph itself.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      4
      edit-2
      17 days ago

      “will be referred to the appropriate criminal entity for criminal prosecution”

      I had to check that your quote was correct, because that doesn’t seem like the words they probably meant to use. Though, now that I think of it, the current administration referring someone to a “criminal entity” is all too plausible.

      • Basic Glitch
        link
        fedilink
        English
        217 days ago

        According to the AP it’s a direct quote from the memo written by the finest legal minds Trump’s money can buy

      • Echo Dot
        link
        fedilink
        English
        217 days ago

        If you read the full transcript of all of the released signal messages it’s pretty obvious that they always talk like that.

        They probably attended some seminar on public speaking by some hack and they were told to sound “alpha” in their communications. It’s a sort of thing these idiots would obsess about.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      17
      edit-2
      17 days ago

      I would wager a guess that they were contacted for a comment on the story before release and this is Hegseth telling everyone to shut up and not say anything to the press. Timing makes it seem related.

      • Basic Glitch
        link
        fedilink
        English
        917 days ago

        Damn, I’ve been so distracted with the everything else I didn’t even think of that, but yeah sounds about right.

        Little fucking fascists typing up their big scary memos to prove how much they love trampling on rights

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      9318 days ago

      OPSEC is Operational Security, basically they’re saying that their communication channels are secure. Plot twist, they’re not because they don’t actually know who is on their signal chat.

      • Echo Dot
        link
        fedilink
        English
        1017 days ago

        Why would you even write OPSEC is secure, being secure is its whole point. You don’t go around telling everyone it’s secure, just like you don’t go around telling everyone that the building isn’t currently on fire.

        It’s just it’s a new word he’s recently learned, and he’s damn well going to use it.

        • sp3ctr4l
          link
          fedilink
          English
          417 days ago

          Because Hegseth is an insecure, unqualified try-hard who is more focused on using terminology and buzzwords associated with actual competency… than actually being competent.

          Its linguistic peacocking.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          4
          edit-2
          17 days ago

          Opsec is more about the processes of confirming that you know exactly where important information is and knowing there are as few potential leaks and risks to that information getting into unintended hands. Saying you’ve got clean opsec is about confirming that you’ve gone through the proper steps to keep communications secret.

          Personally I’ve called for opsec before with different friend groups when different crises have arisen and I need a group of people to help another out who’s in a bad mental state without tipping them off to things that might become dangerous.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      47
      edit-2
      18 days ago

      OPSEC means Operational Security. He texted a journalist that everything was still hush hush.