Germany’s military, the Bundeswehr, recently got the all-clear for a massive increase in investment after parliament voted to exempt defence spending from strict rules on debt.

The country’s top general has told the BBC the cash boost is urgently needed because he believes Russian aggression won’t stop at Ukraine.

“We are threatened by Russia. We are threatened by Putin. We have to do whatever is needed to deter that,” Gen Carsten Breuer says. He warns that Nato should be braced for a possible attack in as little as four years.

“It’s not about how much time I need, it’s much more about how much time Putin gives us to be prepared,” the defence chief says bluntly. “And the sooner we are prepared the better.”

  • ZeroOne
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    113 months ago

    Just don’t draft people & you good. A drafted military never fights well

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        How about you fight instead of dragging people to die in wars witbout their consent.

        Oh wait, you rather sacrifice others.

        Oh & there are more desertions in a drafted military

        • @[email protected]
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          43 months ago

          I mean I’d be there right with the other reservists fighting. Not that many options for a lot of countries, Russia is so much bigger and stronger than a lot of those bordering Russia that you need pretty much every man to do their part.

        • @[email protected]
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          33 months ago

          Don’t mistake me for saying drafting and war is good. Just that a drafted army fights better than a non existent one.

  • @[email protected]
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    323 months ago

    This is not just about security, this is about safeguarding the last bastions of real democracy.

  • @[email protected]
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    373 months ago

    I feel like this is a good idea but I also saw what Germany did to Brazil in that World Cup and there needs to be a plan for them going too far and hurting people just for living.

      • @[email protected]
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        253 months ago

        I feel like I’m doing ok. I want the Fediverse to happen and I imagine I have way more likes than dislikes. (I don’t know how to check.)

        Sometimes, jokes don’t hit. Life has upvotes and downvotes and I accept both with the zeal of a competitor.

          • @[email protected]
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            123 months ago

            Maybe I’m a bit contrarian, which grows old but I try to balance it with sincerity and light jokes. I don’t have any particular agenda when posting on Internet forums, to be honest.

            You do you as well. I would nominate “Meh, you do you.” as the Fediverse slogan if I had such powers.

            • @[email protected]
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              103 months ago

              You keep doing you. I found the joke funny.

              If we’re all too afraid of downvotes to post our true opinions, Lemmy will turn into another echochamber.

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          63 months ago

          That’s the spirit.

          But did Germany defeated Brasil in the cup?

            • @[email protected]
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              63 months ago

              It was deserved as well. Brazil’s players were cocky as hell.

              At least before the match.

            • @[email protected]
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              63 months ago

              Ehh, they scored more than half of those points within six minutes, and six out of seven within the first half hour. They stopped trying to score after halftime and dampened their post-goal celebrations. It seemed like they really weren’t trying to rub it in, but Brazil was just not being competitive.

              • @[email protected]
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                53 months ago

                but Brazil was just not being competitive.

                That’s quite the understatement: It was so bad Brazilian fans started to cheer for the German team. Which, under usual circumstances, only happens when we’re not playing against each other.

                All in all it could’ve been worse for Brazil: It could have been Argentina. And it could have been better for Germany: It could have been the Dutch.

            • baduhai
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              13 months ago

              What was mean spirited? Your joke, or Germany winning 7-1? Because I don’t think either were mean spirited, and I’m Brazilian.

              • @[email protected]
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                13 months ago

                Germany winning 7-1. I was a neutral but kind of rooting for Brazil just to see a fun match and home fans celebrating. It’s always more fun when a team wins at home. And then minutes later. I thought “Oh no. Namar is out and Germany is the country least likely to hold back.” Brazil players looked dejected. Anyone with empathy felt for them.

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          It’s true, most of your comments seem to have a positive upvote score and therefore more upvotes than downvotes. Your Yale comment seems to have attracted the most downvotes in recent time, currently “-14” “upvotes”/points (seems that some lemmy clients just call them “points”)

          So actually it seems that currently Lemmy itself doesnt support showing one users total upvotes/downvotes as this would very much resemble the reddit Karma system and they dont want that.

          However as all your comments and the total sum of votes for each comment(I think also the bare numbers of upvotes/downvotes are visible via Api access) are public one could theoretically write a script or build this into a Lemmy client. However the 3 clients I just used to test this don’t support this and probably don’t want to.

    • @[email protected]
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      23 months ago

      And they did hold back that day, after the first 4 goals +/-, just to avoid embarrassing the host that much further.

  • @[email protected]
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    1663 months ago

    for the first time, Germany possibly gets to be the “good guys” in a world war! Quite a turnaround.

    • 🦄🦄🦄
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      With the Putin-loving, fascist AfD as the second strongest party in the country? We will see, but I do not have high hopes.

      • @[email protected]
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        163 months ago

        So my understanding is that they are the second strongest, but still at around 20% the other German parties formed a coalition that froze Afd out of power. So they are still a threat in future elections, but they have limited impact on policy for now.

        Is that correct or have I got the wrong idea?

        • @[email protected]
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          43 months ago

          Yes and no. In general you are right, but there are municipalities in East Germany that had over 50% of the votes go to the AfD… which is still absolutely insane to me. I’m sure it’s the same in the USA, but cities tend to lean more left and rural regions tend to heavily favor the AfD (or slightly less/more right parties).

        • 🦄🦄🦄
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          Mostly correct yes. The main danger lies in future elections.

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        I’d like to believe they’ll kick the Nazis out of the bar before they reach the levers of true power, but I’m American and you see how well having that naive hope went for us.

        Having said that, I imagine the Germans are at least slightly more cognizant of the risks involved than we are. Difference between “It can’t happen here!” and “It has already happened here and it was bad.

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          Having said that, I imagine the Germans are at least slightly more cognizant of the risks involved than we are.

          Yeah one would think so, huh? But nope, right now nothing points to that. The last government declined to start the banning process against the AfD even tho the chances of success would have been really high. And that was a coalition of basically the labor party (as far as they think of themselves at least), the greens and some neo-lib shitheads. With the conservative government of right now? Lmao fat chance.

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        43 months ago

        Fuck trump, he made world less safe in so many ways and now in addition to threatening Canada and Greenland he appears to be planning to stay a war with Iran.

        And get this, the excuse is because they don’t want to negotiate suspending their nuclear program after he broke previous agreement.

    • Boxscape
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      253 months ago

      for the first time, Germany possibly gets to be the “good guys” in a world war! Quite a turnaround.

    • Fat Tony
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      323 months ago

      I mean, were they really The Bad Guys™ in WW1?

      • NoneOfUrBusiness
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        The Austrians were the bad guys in WW1. Germany just played European Great Power politics like everyone else.

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        Yes. There are actual letters and memos from german leadership about poking the Austrians into making the situation in Serbia worse in hopes a tiping point would give them an excuse to take swathes of Russia and France in the coming conflict.

        Bonus points: methods for the handling of jews and other undesirables in the occupied lands were already being talked about

    • @[email protected]
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      13 months ago

      World war normally has not good guys. It is that Germany has gone so evil in WW2 that made all others appear the good guys. But in the end they all are evil (countries not people living in them, and no it’s not the same).

      • @[email protected]
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        83 months ago

        who says I think Germany would be on our side?

        at this rate, the US is looking more and more like it’ll jump into bed with Russia than the rest of NATO.

    • @[email protected]
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      123 months ago

      “good guys” vs “bad guys” logic isn’t much wise. In the cold war USA and germany recycled nazi and ss members to war with russia. World governments are all corrupted and have blood on their hands, none of them is really the good guys.

    • @[email protected]
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      43 months ago

      Remember the first persons to be harassed, assassinated, detained, sent to concentration camps were german citizen.
      The first who tried to resist Hitler’s power, sabotage infrastructure, retrieve and send confidential informations to the allies were german citizen.
      A lot of germans were the good guys in ww2 (and afterwards for that matter).
      Whatever the conflict, let’s not forget that [country X leadership] is not the same as [country x as a whole].

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        33 months ago

        you know that article is dated September 28th 2023, right?

        now, I’m not saying Israel doesnt have a history of acting like bastards, but that’s just a wee bit before they started ethnically cleansing the Gaza strip.

  • @[email protected]
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    983 months ago

    Good article.

    I appreciate that this was the photo the bbc chose to express German concern over US Russian relations;

  • Guy Ingonito
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    What the hell is with the Germans and austerity? They’ve been holding their own country back for over 15 years

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      Germany abdicated their monetary sovereignty to the EU, thus impoverishing themselves in service to international capital.

      But their punishment and exploitation is nothing compared to Greece, etc.

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    13 months ago

    I foresee a non-zero chance that this could backfire and their new ever-expanding military budget gets used on smaller weaker nations and then as an excuse to divert funding away from services that people actually rely on.

  • @[email protected]
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    953 months ago

    Germany, Italy, and Japan go to war against Russia and the US. Only this time the former group is the Good Guys.

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      123 months ago

      Italy has a grotesque far right wave RN, they are not the good guys still. Japan is not progressive enough compared to Germany, but I can believe Germany is far removed from being as much as a bad guy compared to the USA & Russia today.

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        Japan has never really reckoned with its past. They were just pacified.

        I judge the country as a whole for this, since they keep electing politicians who continue to do very little to reckon with their past.

        I feel a lot could be gained by apologising to the people and nations for the past, and nothing lost, other than nationalistic pride, bring forced into self reflection, and being genuinely sorry on behalf of the country.

        People who think they shouldn’t apologise because it wasn’t them personally are stupid, frankly, and standing in the way of reducing tensions.

        Will it fix everything in the region? No. Will it take some of the steam out of the war machine? Probably.

        • @[email protected]
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          63 months ago

          Is that why Japan is the only WW II participant who has not fired a shot in anger since August 1945? Japan learned, the rest of you fucks failed miserably and continue to do so.

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            Oh don’t get me wrong. The strong adherence to pacifism is laudable. But they have not reckoned with their atrocities committed during and prior world war II. They practically deny them ever happening.

            Your whataboutism is not appreciated.

    • @[email protected]
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      Go back to WW1 and you’ll have a hard time pointing to good guys. Even WW2 was heavily sketch. The US was halfway in bed with the Nazis under Hoover and only at odds with Japan because it was encroaching on the British opium trade through Hong Kong and Shanghai.

      These wars were, at their hearts, the end consequences of a century of industrial imperialism. The good guys were in Latin America and North Africa and the South Pacific, fighting for their independence and sovereignty.

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        Lieutenant George: The war started because of the vile Hun and his villainous empire-building.

        Captain Blackadder: George, the British Empire at present covers a quarter of the globe, while the German Empire consists of a small sausage factory in Tanganiki. I hardly think that we can be entirely absolved of blame on the imperialistic front.

    • @[email protected]
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      83 months ago

      That’s one of the reason governments shouldn’t have any power. Good luck when in the nearby future adolf hitler II becomes the president of a police state with an army ready for war…

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      Yeah I’m a bit tired of bought out politicians dismantling a country from the inside.

      Probably the biggest loophole that HAS to be fixed!

      • @[email protected]
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        The biggest problem with democracy is that voting isn’t mandatory, and 25% of any population is dumb as bricks.

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          I would estimate the number is higher than 25% (and growing all the time)

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      Oh yeah. That’s it. They’re morally bankrupt. They shouldn’t be allowed to defend against a lighthouse for human rights and ethical behaviour such as Russia. Imperial media. Lol.

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    I don’t see this as Germany leaving history in the past, but being smart to protect their future so the that the lessons of the past mean something.

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      Germans are on track to elect the AfD. Do you think them having a 500 Billion dollar army is a good plan?