The filibuster is expected to go through the night, against fast-tracked nominees by the Trump Administration. Booker’s protest appears to be in response to a recent wave of Republican nominees being fast-tracked through the confirmation process, many of whom are aligned with Trump’s second-term agenda and Elon Musk’s increasingly influential role in federal advisory circles.

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      tell your friends. get them on the stream - especially right now. great back and forth conversation happening.

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        i went ahead and called my own senator to be like “why aren’t YOU doing this”

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            update, the one of my two senators that i contacted did in fact speak

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              from a state with two republican senators, thank you!

              had to go to my local post office today and had a great convo with the person behind the desk - they were watching booker on their lunchbreak and we had an awesome moment of connection over this. I reminded them that there was still so much love out here just waiting to be organized.

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    I thought Democrats weren’t allowed to DO Anything? Chuck Schumer is going to be SO ANGRY at this!

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      Schumer is there asking Booker questions to give him a break. This is the first time the filibuster has been applicable this term, but the Democrats have been working. They’re confirming Biden’s pending judicial appointments whenever Republican attendance is low, they voted down every cabinet nomination, and are the ones taking the cases to the courts.

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      he’s been up there for 4 hours now and looks the same

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    Cory Booker is doing a great job with his protest speech. I started watching while he was talking about social security, and I’m so glad someone is talking about our fears in congress.

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      I guess it is in a traditional sense, but they are very infrequent these days due to the senates rules and their collective lazyness.

      IIRC the current version of the filibuster is a combination of two rules (procedural rules of the senate, not laws).

      1. Votes on bills cant be done while a senator is talking.
      2. You cant force them to give up their speaking time (which is how ever long they want it to be) unless 60 members of the senate vote to get them to stop.

      Back in the day, you actually had to be talking the entire time, but in the senate’s lazyness they changed the rules to streamline the entire process. Someone to just say they are going to filibuster something and they have the vote, to see if the matter gets dropped or not. I think its a squares vs rectangles sorta thing, a filibuster is done with the intent to kill a bill by not allowing the voting process to go forward, this appears to be doing the same before they brought anything to vote on. The outcome is still the same, the senate does nothing.

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        A little nitpick on how we got to the modern silent filibuster, because I think the history is important and demonstrates how creating rules that might seem well-intentioned at the time end up having disastrous effects when you don’t think about the long-term impacts.

        Literally everything about the evolution of the filibuster was the result of unintended consequences. When the Senate was first created, they included a rule which was common among legislatures in Colonial American and England called the “previous question” rule. There were no rules on how long debate could take place, but, at any time (including in the middle of a speaker’s turn) anyone could call for the immediate consideration of the previous question. If that got a majority support (50%+1), debate was immediately stopped and the issue was put to an immediate vote. The word ‘filibuster’ didn’t exist at the time, but this was very similar to our modern cloture motion, which is used to end filibusters, except the previous question only required a simple majority of those present, where was cloture requires 3/5 of all members (including those not present). The previous question was a lower bar to clear than cloture is.

        However, in the early days of the Senate it was a very collegial institution. All the Senators, even those opposed to each other on policy, were all friendly with each other. As such, after the first 15ish years, they had never had the need to use the previous question rule. Whenever a Senator was taking too long during debate, someone would gently tell them to wrap it up and they would. They relied more on the collegial atmosphere and friendships than the actual rules. In 1805, then-VP Aaron Burr (of murdering Hamilton and trying to steal half of North America to turn himself into a monarch fame) wanted to reform Senate rules. Mostly, he was trying to eliminate unnecessary rules to streamline the Senate. One of the rules he got rid of was the previous question. The intention was just to get rid of a rule that had never been used, but this effectively meant that there was no longer any institutional way to end debate if a Senator decided to just keep talking.

        This didn’t have much of an impact for about a century. There were occasional filibusters here and there, but they were very limited and extremely rare. The top issue that got filibusters was anything related to slavery and (after the Civil War) civil rights. Senators from slave states (or former slave states), would filibuster any legislation they saw as a threat to slavery and white supremacy. In general, these filibusters ended because the Senators who introduced whatever piece of legislation would withdraw their legislation and offer to water it down in exchange for an end to the filibuster. In this way, over the 19th century the predominate use of the filibuster was to prevent or slow reforms that would weaken white supremacy.

        As time went on, the use of the filibuster increased in frequency. The general way it would work was that a bill would be introduced. A group of Senators from the minority opposing it would organize to filibuster. Rather than just 1 person holding the floor, they’d swap out using a rule that allows the speaker to temporarily cede the floor for a question, but they’d get the floor back when the question ended. But their allied Senator who was ostensibly just asking a question would then spend hours asking that question, which gave the filibuster leader time to take a break. When they were ready to continue, the question would end and the floor would go back to the original speaker. In the meantime, the allies of the filibustering Senators would meet with the sponsors of the legislation to get them to water down their bill in whatever way that made it acceptable. Once that agreement was made, they’d end the filibuster and move on. It’s important to note that the filibuster at this time was not seen as a tool to kill legislation, but rather to force a concession.

        The culminated in 1917 when Woodrow Wilson was trying to get a law passed that would allow the Navy to arm merchant ships during WW1. A group of anti-war Senators filibustered and got this provision removed. This enraged Wilson and he insisted the Senate adopt a cloture rule which would allow 2/3 of the Senators present in the chamber to vote to immediately end debate and bring the issue to a vote (this would later be changed to 3/5 of all members, regardless if they were present in the chamber). The existence of this rule dramatically changed how the filibuster was used. Rather than being a tool to force a concession, it now became something that could actually kill legislation. The supporters now had to arrange to have a 2/3 majority in the chamber when the cloture vote was pulled in order to pass the legislation. This shifted power from the majority to the minority. The minority just had to ensure they controlled 1/3+1 of the chamber at any given time to prevent cloture. Rather than the impetus being on the minority to actually continue the filibuster and negotiate a concession, it was now on the majority to produce a super-majority. The intention was to create a rule that prevented Senate business from being ground to a halt, but the effect was just the opposite. It gave more power to the minority than the majority.

        This directly led to an increase in the frequency of use of the filibuster. Over the next half-century the filibuster was primarily used to prevent any Civil Rights Legislation from reforming the Jim Crow South. Since there was now a real possibility that a filibuster could actually kill a bill, there was no longer any reason for the filibustering party to negotiate concessions with the majority. They just sat back and continued their filibusters until the majority either got sick of it and pulled the bill or managed to produce a super-majority (which has always been damn near impossible in the Senate, only 2 cloture votes were ever successful between 1917-1964). This culminated in 1964 with a filibuster against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (which, when it eventually passed, effectively ended Jim Crow). A group of segregationist Senators from the South organized to filibuster for over 2 months. Whenever the Senate was in session over those 2 months, the segregationists held the floor and mostly spewed racists screeds about the evils of integration and other white supremacist nonsense. Eventually the pro-Civil Rights caucus managed to get a few people who were just sick of the unending filibuster and passed a cloture motion. However, this was a huge embarrassment for the Senate and they knew they needed to change the rules.

        The problem, as they saw it, was that only a single issue was allowed before the Senate at a time. When a bill or nomination vote, etc was put forth, that issue had to be fully resolved before they could move onto the next thing. Either it had to get a vote up or down, or the sponsor had to pull it (meaning the issue was dead). During this time, no other Senate business can happen. No other issues can be debated or voted upon. Committees can’t meet. Nothing else can happen. So when the segregationists filibustered the Civil Rights Act for 2 months, literally NO other Senate business was able to happen. This was an extremely high profile bill (it had originally be proposed, filibustered, and pulled the previous year while JFK was president, then reintroduce in 1964 after LBJ took office and was promoted as JFK’s legacy), so it couldn’t just be pulled to mollify the filibusterers. And this was an election year where 2/3 of the Senate was going back to their home state to ask for another term and had to justify the fact they sat on their asses doing nothing for 2 months while segregationists were allowed to spew white supremacy on the Senate floor.

        So, just like Burr did when he eliminated the previous question rule, and just like Wilson did when he insisted on the cloture rule, Senate leadership created a rule aimed at solving the immediate problem without looking at what the long-term implications were. They created the multi-track legislative process we have today. Under this system, the Senate Majority Leader could take whatever issue was before the Senate now and “temporarily” table it so they could move on to another issue. Whereas previously an issue had to be either pulled or voted upon before the Senate could move on, now they could just leave it in limbo. The issue wasn’t pulled, but it also wouldn’t get a vote. The Majority Leader could then go back to it whenever they wanted. The idea was that if a filibuster started, they could switch tracks to something else. If/when they went back to that filibustered issue, the filibustering Senator would get the floor back and could continue, but if they couldn’t come up with the votes for cloture (which were now expanded to 3/5 of the entire Senate, which made cloture even more difficult than it was before) they could just move on to something else without wasting the Senate’s time.

        Again, though, this shifted the entire dynamic of how the filibuster was actually used. The new rules went into place in 1972. The use of the filibuster (just like after cloture was first created in 1917) began to increase, and the speed of increase went up over time. At first, through the 80s and early 90s, a Senator would actually have to start their filibuster before the issue would be put on the back burner and the Senate move on to another issue. By the early 2000s, though, all a Senator had to do was tell the Majority leader they intended to filibuster if the issue came to the floor and the Majority leader would just automatically table it, never even allowing for debate.

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          This is where we are now with the filibuster. Pretty much every single bill that doesn’t enjoy broad bipartisan support gets a silent filibuster as a matter of course. This means that basically all legislation coming out of the Senate requires 60 votes to pass. That means that the minority gets to set the agenda since it’s easier to come up with 41 votes against something than 60 votes for something. This contributes to and feeds off of the hyper polarization in our politics. A minority party knows that if they can just keep all their members in line, they can easily block pretty much anything the majority wants to do unless it gets enough national attention that blocking it would garner negative press on the minority party. But even that is heavily mitigated by the existence of stuff like Fox News and media echochambers (of which, the Right is WAY better at creating and controlling).

          It’s also important to recognize that the silent filibuster is a big part of how we got to the point in our politics where Congress is so incredibly dysfunctional that Trump can actually just ignore and bypass Congress as much as he wants. All the shit he’s done since taking office this time has been done without Congress. In a previous era, that might have drawn a lot more criticism, even from his own party. But the existence of the silent filibuster and 60 vote threshold to pass legislation has created the conditions where we’re all used to Congress not doing anything at all. People want action, and they’re used to Congress not being able to do anything, so Trump doing it through Executive Order seems like a relief to them. And the same thing, although to a much less authoritarian degree, happened under Biden, Obama, and W Bush, too. Remember Biden trying to cancel student loans through EO? Remember Obama creating DACA by EO or telling the DEA to not enforce cannabis prohibition in states where cannabis is legal? That’s all stuff Congress is supposed to be doing but can’t because of the silent filibuster and 60 vote threshold.

          Since the late 90s, any speaking filibuster in the Senate, like we’re seeing Booker do now, is purely political theater. It’s done to attract national attention and news coverage, not to actually block or prevent legislation. Which is fine, so long as we all understand the purpose. Political theater is important to actually getting stuff done sometimes because it can drive mass action or sentiment.

          My overall point here, though, is that everything about this history of the filibuster and how it works today was the result of short-term thinking to solve an immediate problem without consideration of the long-term consequences.

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      Inconsequential, the easiest type of protest. Kabuki by the Senator from the pharmaceutical industry.

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        Speaking nonstop for 6 hours without using the bathroom, drinking water, sitting down, leaning on a podium, or even placing your hand on a solid surface isn’t my idea of easy.

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          Here I thought running a jackhammer or hauling roofing shingles up a ladder was hard. Silly me!

          Also this:

          In a statement to the media after the vote, Booker’s office said he supports the importation of prescription drugs but that “any plan to allow the importation of prescription medications should also include consumer protections that ensure foreign drugs meet American safety standards. I opposed an amendment put forward last night that didn’t meet this test.”

          This argument is the same one offered by the pharmaceutical industry.

          https://theintercept.com/2017/01/12/cory-booker-joins-senate-republicans-to-kill-measure-to-import-cheaper-medicine-from-canada/

          Fuuuuuuck Cory Booker

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          He’s doing most of those things. This is still impressive.

          People don’t seem to understand that they don’t have much actual power until a few Republicans decide to stand up for their country.

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          ““Tonight I rise with the intention of getting in some good trouble — I rise with the intention of disrupting the normal business of the United States Senate for as long as I am physically able,” he said.”

          Lmaooo the most dem shit ever. Overnight protest stream like he’s on twitch.

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        Nah those fucking paddles or whatever at the fake of the union were the easiest type of protest.

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      It’s a solo filibuster, but Schumer has been asking questions to give Booker a break. This is the first time a filibuster has been applicable this term. Congress hasn’t been passing legislation. All of the damage has been done by executive order.

      Edit: Murphy, Kim, and Gillibrand have also joined in with lengthy multi-part questions to support Booker.

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    Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage! Rage! Against the dying of the light!

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    It’s not really a filibuster. He’s protesting, but he’s not stopping any legislation. I kind of wish he had saved his energy for when we actually needed dems to filibuster something.

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      That would require the Republicans in Congress to actually pass legislation. All they’ve done is repeal the CFPB overdraft rule with a simple majority and pass the CR, neither of which can be filibustered.

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          I’m reading articles now that say this technically isn’t a filibuster, but a protest speech. C-SPAN called it a filibuster, so I assumed it was one. I guess we’ll see when it’s over.

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        Booker isn’t even stopping any vote. It might be better than absolutely nothing but this man is not going to save the people like this. He’s a Zionist, not progressive, in other countries would be a firmly right-wing politician.

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          I dunno if you’ve missed literally everything in the last 3 months, but I would kill to get back to “firmly right-wing”. You know what calling Democrats ‘zionists’ gets you? It gets you Donald Trump as President. How many times will you throw out good (or even just better) because it’s not perfect?

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            Even if Schumer & Fetterman got their heads out of their asses and showed some true resistance against MAGA, I’d rally behind it.

            These dead ender doomers are not our allies. They’re just as complicit as the moderates.

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            This. I’ve been learning about how to think like a dissident, and in this movement, there can be no purity testing. You’re either against Trump and his agenda, or you’re not. The purity testing can come after the clear and present danger that is Trump and his agenda has been dealt with, and not a second before. Until then, we are all in this together.

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          its what we have at the moment.

          social organization and resistance in america is almost never around a simple, single fulcrum - look at the multipronged approach of the right for the past 40 uears.

          I have been watching last night and all day today and there is just enough progressivism on display from a diverse group of dems to open cracks and widen fissures for more expansive ideas.

          every opening is an opportunity to attack the problem (both party and public) from both the inside and the outside. and while the dems try to get some momentum, keep connecting locally with likeminded people willing to stir shit up - whatever that may mean to you.

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