I bought the first switch thinking I’d play it way more. But those prices that basically never go down, and paying way more for games than I could get them on steam.
Nah. I have a deck and it feels better in my hands, looks better, and I don’t get charged out the ass for games that have been out for near a decade.
Every game I’ve bought for myself on my switch I have instantly regretted not just buying it on PC and streaming to my phone with a controller
Ive had a switch for a few years. I ended up buying a bunch of games I already had on steam, plus Pikmin, breath of the wild, and Mario Kart. I feel like I bought a huge tablet just to play Mario Kart occasionally. I have buyers remorse for sure.
Yea, my biggest reason for buying was hoping for couch coop games to play with my partner. Turns out there aren’t a ton of them and the ones I could find my partner doesn’t care for. sigh
$90?
Shit.
Metroid Prime 4 and The Duskbloods don’t sound perfect after all
$80 for physical $70 for digital.
I’ll be waiting for the Tinfoil discount.
“The future is Here!!!”
Oh wow, I didn’t realize physical manufacturing, storage, transport and sale was only $10!
It might be even less than that, but it’s there so just so they can say we still accept physical though we discourage it!
Gamedev here:
For a digital copy, the devs may get between 50 and 90% of the game’s retail price, depending on several conditions like what country they are from and what treaties they have with the country of who bought it. Less than that if they have a publisher to share the profits with.
For a physical copy, between packaging, shipping, storing and the margins of all the other companies involved in this process, the devs may end up with as little as 5% of the game’s retail price.
Of course these numbers are higher for Nintendo as they are the platform owners as well.
Other way, I think. 80 for digital, 90 for physical. In USD anyways.
Jesus Christ, it’s around $60 in Japan, so old prices
Don’t forget tariffs if that’s not factored in yet…
Pretty sure tariffs are part of the reason for the $80/90 price points
Oh wow! I can buy a digital game worth the same price as a physical game! What a deal! /s
At least a regular Switch version of Metroid Prime 4 will also be available. Other options for playing those.
Couldn’t you just use Yuzu and pirate games - on the steamdeck?
It’s Switch 2 games we’re talking about here…
Damn. Gotta start emulating that too.
We’ll see how long it takes to get a working emulator going, but with power equivalent to a PS4 Pro it might not happen for a while…
Switch 2: emulation boogaloo
I genuinely believe a primary driving factor for the switch 2 was to hinder emulation of new releases. I don’t remember any of this but I think my friend said TOTK was available on bad websites a week before the official release. But I wouldn’t know.
Two weeks if I’m not mistaken
The new connection for the controllers also makes me think they didn’t want to take a chance with a fumble like on the switch where you can ground a pin to hack your switch…
So yeah after a year of a release.
No way the Steam Deck will be able to run emulated Switch 2 games. Maybe the Steam Deck 2.
How’s PS4 emulation going these days? Because the hardware will be equivalent to a PS4 Pro so it will require quite the hardware to emulate.
It’s going fine, the problem will be compatibility and not performance I think.
So in 10 years I’ll be able to boot one game and it will run well enough.
The fact that Nintendo is well known for not lowering their game prices this could very well price them out from competition.
Hopefully game reviewers will heighten their expectations to meet these inflated prices.
Can confirm: Super Mario run on iOS is still the same price as it was at launch in 2016.
Have you met Nintendo fanboys? They’re going to defend this shit like MAGAt republicans defend their Cheeto coloured Jesus.
Cursed cabbage patch bob ross
Hopefully game reviewers will heighten their expectations to meet these inflated prices.
I find it more likely Nintendo will DMCA them for daring to speak about their games
On the one side, yeah they are over protective of their IPS
On the other, This is Nintendo, not Ubisoft LMAO 🤣
Ubisoft, who literally spends more money on lawyers to sue reviewers and anyone giving their opinion of their latest worst game than in their ACS game 🤣
“over protective” you mean they’re pieces of shit.
Plus, with the Steamdeck you have more games to play than just Nintendo games or old games you played years ago but have to pay more to play them again on worse hardware.
I would just like to remind everyone that Nintendo was predatory when EA and Activision were the good(ish) guys.
Dont at me.
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I guess certain games maybe only hard copies exist, but when you can just grab a copy off the internet and store it, I don’t see the need for a hard copy.
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Physical games with a huge asterisk. Some switch 2 “physical” games will just be a piece of plastic you insert into your switch that tells a server somewhere you can play it and won’t actually have the game itself installed. It’d be a digital only game with extra steps
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Well, between their incredibly abusive behaviour towards fans making content on YouTube even though that’s free advertising, the mess with the smash tournaments and them breaking agreements to side with some new band of assholes -
their previous efforts to destroy companies by patent trolling and their current efforts to undo Palworld that have pretty much only been prevented by them teaming up with Sony -
and their very heavy-handed protectionist approach to ROM preservation even though they keep taking away people’s access to their older catalogue, I certainly wouldn’t consider them ABOVE board.
Before sony’s completely ridiculous 2024 I would have firmly called them below-board, but enshittification really hit hard, jeez. (Dashes were for breathing pauses cus that was getting a little long. I was also going to mention an issue with them being a lot less transparent with whether or not they’d ethically sourced their rare earth metals vs the other big two, but I don’t remember quite when that was, just that it was discussed during the switch era).
Edit: tbc I still upvoted cus physical games ARE still important, but I forgot to mention that they don’t let you downpatch digital games so speed running, or even just wanting to play TotK with the dupe glitch, is forced to sometimes be way more expensive thanks to REQUIRING physical AND having to play offline forever cus I think it tries to force patches?
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My counter: Metroid Prime 4. I would sell everything I own. It’s been almost 9 years
This basically makes having gone through the end of COVID-19 worth it
It will also be on the Switch 1, meaning it will probably be able to run emulated on a Steam Deck.
you really saw that trailer and said “i gotta overpay for that”. yikes.
I mean, the Metroid Community is starving.
dread came out 4 years ago. it’s not that long.
and dread wasn’t that good. Before that was nintendos metroid 2 remake, which also wasn’t very good. Neither were bad, but the genre has moved on without nintendo and standards are higher now. I haven’t been blown away by a metroid game since the fan game am2r, and that makes me sad.
Yeah but what a out Metroid Prime.
But I’m conflicted as the Prime 4 announcement came with the cancellation of AM2r which is just the best Metroid FanGame ever.
Why is Nintendo so shite
because of your first reply. you’re not a customer but a resource to be milked of every penny possible.
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I think expecting Nintendo do allow people to play their games without being customers is bizarre. I want emulator, I want to be able to pirate whatever I want, but I don’t grt expecting Nintendo to be happy about that arrangement
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Piracy is the competition.
Companies that recognize that and improve their products and services in order to compete, results in better products and services as well as an influx of happy customers. See valve and steam.
Companies that don’t improve and instead seek to stiffle competition through dmca and litigation get their products pirated and services ignored. See how nintendo games are the most pirated on any site that shows stats for such things.
For example, Mario 3 is fucking ancient, how many times does nintendo expect me to buy it? They got my money several times over, and now in order to legally play it on a current platform, it’s locked behind a subscription service. No thank you. Besides, I prefer to play platformers with a keyboard. I’d pay for nintendo games again if they let me download to my pc.
Except, what about all the games I bought online for my wiiu and 3ds? Those storefronts are gone, so anything I didn’t already have downloaded is gone. If anything happens to those consoles, the few games I do have on them are gone. (i personally never actually had a 3ds or wiiu, but lots of people did and are in this exact boat). I cannot trust nintendo to preserve my purchases, like I can with any other modern digital storefront.
yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.
I think expecting Nintendo do allow people to play their games without being customers is bizarre
If they want those customers they can sell their game on a system that can actually handle it
Because you’re presupposing that copyright is right in the first place. Distribution of information has been made free - because of the internet it’s the one thing so far where the Star Trek future has been made reality. But intellectual property laws are designed to create artificial scarcity so that one publisher can monopolize a creative work, to the detriment of everyone else.
Fans of various game franchises are not just consumers, but creators in their own right. You have to remember that this delegitimized practice of “piracy” also results in the entire romhacking community.
The bottom line is that free sharing of information benefits us all and produces a rich commons, but intellectual property plunders that commons and produces centralization of media ownership while stripping away our right to be co-creators.
don’t forget mods, easy repair, easy piracy, and actually being a functional portable computer in a pinch if you have a docking station
I love how the price goes up every time someone complains.
It’s over 9000 by now.
That’s too high!
I dunno what y’all are talking about, the Deck chip (Van Gogh, 7nm, Zen 2 but with Rembrandt-era SoC features, RDNA2) is “newer” than the Ampere chip (circa 2020) in the Switch 2.
Who the hell is paying 90EUR for switch games?
Let’s not pretend every publisher isn’t planning on doing this. Nintendo just happens to be the first here.
I genuinely thought GTA6 was gonna beat them to the punch.
The other publishers were all eagerly waiting for gta6 to take the blame for the price increase. Nintendo just doesn’t care about that and weren’t gonna wait for a third party before announcing their new prices.
I get the MSRP outrage, but I mean it’s not an unusual cost for launch day titles, especially for physical media.
I don’t think I’ve ever paid full retail for any game or console I’ve ever owned though. And I do like to own my games by buying physical media (or at least the installer files).
Which game has been launched at 90 bucks before?
Thing is that they even do this shady thing now where retails is 10 bucks more than the digital version.
Usually because you actually own the retail/physical version but they can rescind access to a digital copy at any point.
But I usually buy old games or new ones second hand, so, I exist on a slightly different market place…
All it takes is for a major corporation to pull the trigger. Since Nintendo is willing to take that step, other companies are going to be observing to see if it’s worth the temporary backlash.
Nintendo fanboys, they would jump off a cliff if asked.
I consider myself a Nintendo fanboy. I’ve owned every console.
Would not jump off a bridge.
However, these game prices are too high. I don’t think third party games will be that price but first party games will be there.
Something tells me all new AAA games are going to be touching that price. I mean, they already do if you factor in the stupid elite wtf editions and deluxe pro plus editions. Hell, they’re more like $130-$150 after DLC is all said and done.
Same, owned every console since the NES. This one’s a pass for me. Maybe Nintendo will be humbled and bring their pricing back down to Earth in the future, but I doubt it.
Too young to have owned every console and don’t care enough, but I am a fan of many games and the community. Nintendo the company hates its fans, that is widely known.
I’m not gonna buy it for that price. Especially not as a student. Especially not while ☠️ isn’t a thing yet.
They have gotten greedy. There needs to be a Wii-U era again.
There needs to be a Wii-U era again.
I agree, they need to be humbled, but I have no idea whether they will or not. While the economy is working against them, a LOT of people liked the Switch, and this is a more powerful one rather than a hard-to-understand mess like the Wii U. Genuinely curious to see how the Switch 2 does. My best guess is “modest success.”
I crave for the earlier days of the 3DS to happen again, please Nintendo fan base, I have a bit of faith.
I know my work colleague is not. His Switch was cracked for I think 100+ eur which seems quite high, but since you can afterwards download pretty much any title from some pirate marketplace, that investment has been covered at least tenfold.
The funniest part is that the best selling video game of all time (Minecraft) currently has an MSRP of less than $30, which technically gets you 2 games because Microsoft/Mojang maintain 2 completely separate codebases for Minecraft (Java edition and bedrock edition) and has to design, program, test and debug everything twice, once for each codebase
Well no one is paying that for PC games either so
Me and millions of others. If you account for inflation, there has been higher prices in the past.
I mean I own a switch, and I’ve never paid anything close to that for games… I’ve gone to maybe £45-50 for launch titles but what games cost £70?
Because inflation applies to all products equally and there aren’t ever relative adjustments /s
What games currently cost that much though, is my question really, I guess. The last expensive titles I can see right now for standard editions of games is like, 70Eur equivalent for AAA type titles.
Nice to see an adult reaction in this thread. You have a good point and I’m very curious why Nintendo made these choices. Maybe it could have to do with the current value of the Japanese yen? I’m not an economist though, so I’m just guessing right now.
Wild. Possibly market rates are different - don’t know if the EUR is particularly weak right now? I don’t follow the conversion rates…
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Being rude for no reason is a bad look
My question was genuine, and not rude at all, absolute majority of people can’t afford to buy $90 game every month, nor should they.
Your question was a good one, but still rude. You’re more likely to get a satisfying answer if you don’t pose the premise that the person you’re replying to must be dumb if they’re not rich.
But if you account for average wages, the prices are higher now.
Eh, with the prices you could upgrade from steam deck to better specs, maybe switch will have better battery
Nintendo isn’t getting another penny from me after what they did to the switch emulation projects.
You can still emulate everything. Newest version will work just fine for the indefinite future
Much to Nintendo’s dismay
… what they “momentarily” did to “that” em project, you mean.
