• Draconic NEO
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      Also looks to be made of leather too, which is kind of a bigger problem.

  • @[email protected]
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    Vegan “leather” is made of plastic. Plastic is a by product of the oil industry. Oil is made out of dinosaurs. Plastic is not vegan.

    Take THAT PeTA!

    Also huge eye rolling and /s

      • Draconic NEO
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        Algae and Plankton technically, though some of those plankton (Zooplankton) are animals, not plants, they’re all mixed together and baked under high pressure, no way to separate the zooplankton from the phytoplankton.

    • @[email protected]
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      Depending on the reason for being vegan.

      For animal rights/ethics, yes.

      For health/climate, potentially less so.

      • irelephant [he/him]🍭
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        Genuine question: Is avoiding leather really that great? Leather seems much more durable than plastic, and its from a part of the animal thats really just thrown away anyway.

        • 🦄🦄🦄
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          1. making the leather is a horrible process, making skin into the product you know requires a lot of chemicals that aren’t great for the environment

          2. Leather is not necessarily a byproduct but a coproduct.

          • irelephant [he/him]🍭
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            Thanks for answering!
            For the environment thing, would making leather clothes be worse than making plastic clothes?

    • @[email protected]
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      “Vegan” originally meant “vegetarian + no non-food animal products”, which later got distorted into “vegetarian”, then thanks to crooks promoting the “carnivore” diet, “person that actually eats their veggies”. No really, the last one started to spread from gymbro forums after one of them said “um, ackchually, fiber is carbs too”.

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    Aren’t most cheap shoes vegan? It didn’t occur to me this is something I have to watch out for

    • @[email protected]
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      It’s possible, and if finances are a struggle you just kind of have to make your best guess in some cases, or buy used. Most of the time when shoes have leather, they advertise it pretty boldly, so that helps. Still, you never know - for example, what are the adhesives made out of? That’s why vegan certifications are important, a lot of things can be easily hidden, and a lot of companies aren’t particularly clear on their use of animal products even when reached out to directly.

      Going vegan means learning to have to put everything under a microscope. The word ‘vystopia’ exists for good reason.

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    i don’t know man, that looks synthetic to me

    what would dinosaurs think of this “vegan” shoe?

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      How does it being synthetic have anything to do with it being vegan?

      And a dinosaur would think “cool shoes”.

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        Those fabrics are made of plastic, which is derived from oil, which forms over long periods of time from buried decaying plant and animal matter. 70% of the Earth’s oil is from the Mesozoic Era, which encompassed the Triassic, Jurassic, and Cretaceous Periods, so formed during a time when dinosaurs lived and jokes about oil being made of dinosaurs are common. Oil is actually made of plankton rather than dinosaurs, though.

      • don
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        My guess is that the lack of leather constitutes being vegan.

      • @[email protected]
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        plastics are usualy from oil, and oil is from dinosaura

        although googling it now it seems it was disproven

        • @[email protected]
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          Almost all fossil fuels consist of plant matter laid down in the Carboniferous Period, before dinosaurs even evolved

        • @[email protected]
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          Even if it wasn’t, it’s a valid point to argue that found roadkill is vegan (but still not safe to eat, RFK Jr), because no one is exploiting anyone else. There are lots of reasons for vegans not to embrace petroleum products, but the well-being of the animals and plants that formed the petroleum isn’t one of them.

  • Pennomi
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    This pair of shoes was made by happy vegan child labor instead of sad carnivore child labor.

  • @[email protected]
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    Vegan aka Synthetics. It’s just a fuckin buzzword.

    Now if it was Oil and Animal free It would kinda cool.

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        I’m seeing 5 root comments, and a follow up, from the same account, all removed by mods. Was it just a troll or did I miss something exciting?

        • @[email protected]
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          If you really really really want to know you can go look at blahaj’s mod log - but I warn you that some of the stuff removed can be particularly mean, obscene, illegal etc…

          • Draconic NEO
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            It doesn’t show in the modlog but in case anyone is wondering, it was gore/animal violence spam. If you didn’t see it consider yourselves lucky.

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              I forgot that the really bad stuff gets scrubbed even from the modlog…

              What tf is wrong with people who’re posting stuff like that…? Oh yes, I remember, they’ve found a place where people are happy and want to destroy it. I’m pretty confident Ada and Blahaj have more than enough to deal with as it is.

              Thanks for any contribution you make to modding or letting people know when the bad stuff shows up.

              • Draconic NEO
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                I forgot that the really bad stuff gets scrubbed even from the modlog…

                It’s more like, if it gets removed by “ban with content removal” it never gets announced. Entries can’t really be removed from the modlog when they appear, at least not on all instances at once. It’s actually an unintended bug which will probably be fixed in 1.0 since as of now you can’t even tell comments were removed if someone bans a person with content removal.

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    No. Instead, it implies that eating this shoe is better for your health than eating a non-vegan one.

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      Do we have a term for individuals that refrain from eating shoes? Because vegan shoe or not, I identify as a person who doesn’t eat shoes.