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don’t worry good America people I’d play the games in your stead while you’re busy supporting your local brands
I delayed my preorder when I saw the bullshit price gouging for game prices.
Have you seen that nowhere is selling switch games for $90?
Look into it.
Where did I say $90?
Look into it
I’m sorry, i guess i took it as implied. I think that’s a fair assumption because what else could you mean by price gouging when all people have been talking about is the $90 games?
If that’s not what you meant, then what did you mean?
$80, $90, and even $100 games lmao. Even $70 is too much.
I guess it is. But why pretend this is something new? Games have always been expensive. Ps1 games were between 40 and 60 dollars when they came out. That’s almost 110 dollars accounting for inflation on about 50 dollars then.
The ps1 itself would cost almost 800 dollars today, accounting for inflation.
Game prices haven’t really followed along with inflation. The 60 dollar game has been a thing since i was a child in the 90s.
I agree that perhaps 80 dollars is a lot for a game, and maybe they should be priced lower than 1 quarter the cost of the console, but thats a different argument.
What i am saying, again, is this is nothing new, and i think this outrage is symptomatic of “short-term memory loss”.
I wish games were cheaper. But ragging on nintendo for charging less than they used to for n64 games (when accounting for inflation) and selling a console that plays ps5 games for less than a ps5. Is a bit strange. I also think the portability of the switch is something neither of the big 2 have. The playstation portal is half the cost of a ps5 and has to be on the same wifi as the ps5.
I just dont see why people think this is so egregious.
Because it is egregious. Wow solved that for you. Write an essay somewhere else about how you love Nintendo so much.
In fact. I dont care if you realise it or not. I dont need your validation. Im in my 30s. I’m nearly 40. i have been gaming since the sega master system. That’s fairly early doors for gaming. Its super early for console gaming. I know what i am talking about, i have been alive for long enough and paid for enough games to know what i am talking about.
The fact that you are just going to downvote me and offer absolutely nothing to counter my argument is enough for me to know you are EITHER too young to k ow about any of this, or being purposfully ignorant to jump on the rage wagon.
The fact you automatically think i am schilling for nintendo because my argument passively defends them (its actually an argument defending all game pricing) is just evidence of your immaturity.
Grow up, eh?
Yeah, bullshit. They’re just using tariffs to further increase the price.
100 bucks cheaper in Japan than any other region? 90 dollar games that never go on sale?
Get bent, Nintendo, I’ll stick to the steam deck and wait for emulation.
Tariffs causing price increase would be good for me politically
Someone doesn’t understand the full story. The Yen is weak. Super weak when compared to the US dollar. Hence the price difference for their country.
Additionally, those special consoles will be soft region locked. Only JP accounts can be added to them and will display Japanese only if the game supports that language.
Games never go on sale, what are you on about? We see Nintendo games go on sale frequently. Sorry they’re not the $5 dumpster trash that EA/Ubisoft shits out every year with their latest madden or CoD/Just Dance games riddled with bugs.
They should absolutely be selling their NES games for $5 or less instead of the original prices innthe 90s lol
Quit sucking corporate cock
Snap out of it fanboy
The Nordic prices are ridiculous though. It’s the equivalent of adding ~200 euro to the regular European price. I bet lots of people here are going to import from other EU countries
Power in Norway have said pre-orders have been “fantastisk bra”. So doesn’t seem the price bothers us.
Norway is richer on average though. Let’s see how sales go after the initial introduction
For the US only, lol
Where does it say that?
Pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will not start April 9, 2025 in order to assess the potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions.
From the article.
Not sure if the same thing but in Japan the Pre-purchase reservation lottery has already opened.
That’s weird, I don’t see that anywhere but to right of the picture I have:
Nintendo says preorders will no longer start on April 9th, but the console’s June 5th release date is unchanged.
I wonder if it’s because I’m in Europe?
I made a search on the page for some of the key words, and the quote you made does NOT appear for me?
And still with the quote, it doesn’t say if it’s ONLY changed for US?There’s a direct quote from the company.
According to a statement sent to The Verge by Eddie Garcia on behalf of Nintendo, it says preorders will no longer begin on April 9th:
“Pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will not start April 9, 2025 in order to assess the potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions. Nintendo will update timing at a later date. The launch date of June 5, 2025 is unchanged.”
I’m also in Europe.
Thanks.
But that’s weird, now I see it immediately, it’s clearly there 2nd paragraph? Also a search finds it no problem?
Neither were the case yesterday?I have no idea why it didn’t work yesterday?
Dammm, the best part is everyone speculated that the price it’s at now was to predict and get ahead of tarrif pricing by already setting it higher. The fact that it’s not is scary.
Well we knew the price didn’t include the tarrifs when we saw Europe get absolutely crazy high prices. Higher than the US and a lot higher if we take into account the dollar tanking right now.
The market wasn’t expecting the tariffs to be as insane as they were — which is why it crashed. They had been expecting 10% maximums, not minimums.
That was the first thing I thought of too.
I think the $450 USD was just keeping up with inflation.
$300 in March 2017 when the switch originally launched is equivalent to almost $400 today ($392 and some change). S2 is launching at $450, if they were only expecting 15%-ish tariffs then maybe, but it should then be cheaper outside of the US if tariffs were the only reason. Electronic component prices have gone up beyond inflation growth, I think it would be easier to blame it on that.
$80-90 games before tariffs sucks, but games have been $60 for as long as I can remember, and they’re only getting more expensive to make.
and some games arnt even worth 60$ to begin with
I would say it’s more that some studios are spending even more to make them, games don’t have to cost more to make as you can now make a lot more with a smaller team than you could 20 years ago.
Would tariffs apply to the games as well?
Physical copies if they are made outside the US, digital no iirc
Ahh so software can cross borders for free. Then presumably they can just rent a shed somewhere to write data to what ever storage media they use these days.
God damn everyone has heard this stupid ass argument and it just makes you stupid to repeat it. Shut up.
Do you not like reading the truth?
No, it’s one of the most expensive Nintendo consoles ever. Only beat by the NES and the SNES. Those released when prices were at all time highs for this stuff.
*in the USA
Edit: apparently they’ve later come out and said Canada will be included. I dunno. I’ve stopped following.
All of North America actually.
You can tell Americans think their country is the Internet, and the Internet is oriented for Americans.
You’re not wrong. But OP just wrote what the title said and the article quickly clarifies its for the US.
I would never had imagined that in my lifetime I’d see gringos reverse-smuggling game consoles from Mexico. I guess you could smuggle them from Canada too, but Mexico has always smuggled merch from USA. We even have a term for it: “fayuca”.
The lucky ones that live near the border can cross, shop switches 2 at non-orange prices, open them and smuggle the back as personal devices.
Oh, you think Canadians aren’t going to get in on tariff evasion? They 100% will.
The tremendous irony is America was founded to evade massive tariffs, sorta… and now we’re doing it to our self.
I see a lot of people ragging on the switch and comparing it to the Steam Deck. I own both but
I’m gonna say this: they’re not even direct competitors. They don’t offer the same experiences at all.
The beauty of the Switch is the ease of use, modularity of control, and communal nature of it. Even if switch online sucks, playing with other switches or 8 people in the same room with certain games is unbelievably easy. The plug and play usability and every single game you can buy from the internal store just works.
Not to mention the dock is flawless and literally easy to use. For all its problems, the switch is a surprisingly well executed idea. There’s a reason they sold hundreds of millions of them.
Steam is catching up, but there’s still a ways to go between proton compatible games, connecting controllers, plugging into a dock without having to bend down and plug a cable etc. The Switch is simply put: easy.
That said, Nintendo is stupid for pricing the Switch 2 out of the “no brainer” casual gamer territory.
Also most of Nintendo’s target audience has no idea that the Steam Deck exists. Like if a kid asks their parents for a Switch 2 the parents aren’t going to suggest the Steam Deck since they don’t know what it is. Nintendo does a shit ton of traditional advertising, the Nintendo brand has an enormous mind share among the general audience. The mind share for Steam is almost non existent outside of PC gamers.
And many kids I know who play PC games don’t even have Steam installed. Since they only play Roblox and Fortnite on their PC. Nintendo is not competing with the Steam Deck. Their real competition is Apple and Android because of Fortnite, Roblox and TikTok.
you can fix the online problems with a USB-to-ethernet adapter on the dock
As owner and early adopter of both - disagree.
Switch is gathering dust for me and everytime I pull it out i feel like getting my steamdeck instead.
The only exception I can think off is low profile traveling but that’s a very small niche if people.
Yeah, people are bitching about first party titles never going down in price, meanwhile I’m here enjoying my 300Eur indie machine.
I see a lot of people saying they shouldn’t be compared, but it still does make sense to do so as most can’t afford both.
And outside of coop couch, the switch pales in comparison on just about everything else.
Game prices: higher
Feel in hands? Awkward
Removable controllers: pop off or loosen during solo gameplay causing everything to pause in order to fix it, which can, but isn’t always, be a quick easy fix.
Plus, games like Animal Crossing that allow coop couch still demand individual switch consoles if you want the full experience for multiple people.
outside of coop couch
Couch coop is pretty much the only reason we have a Switch. If it was just for me, I wouldn’t bother.
As it stands, I have both: Steam Deck for me, Switch for family couch coop.
Is this global or just USA?
I think it’s just USA. Nowhere else has introduced new tariffs for stuff from Japan to my knowledge.
Edit: Another article that clarifies it is just the US.
Here is the full statement Nintendo sent GameSpot on April 4:
“Pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will not start April 9, 2025 in order to assess the potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions. Nintendo will update timing at a later date. The launch date of June 5, 2025 is unchanged.”
This is a rare case where a piece of consumer electronics is going to be quite a bit cheaper in Australia compared to the USA! Usually stuff costs more in Australia.
The Switch is currently US$450 and will probably go up with tariffs. Meanwhile, it’s listed as AU$700 in Australia, which is AU$630 before tax (all advertised prices include tax), which is US$385.
I imagine this is going to happen for a lot of devices. I’m an Aussie living in the USA and I never thought I’d see the day when buying stuff in Australia would be cheaper. Australia has better consumer protection too, around things like repairs/refunds due to major issues even outside the warranty period.
Regardless of price, Nintendo is a shit legacy company that is riding on the coattails of the 90’s.
They never have games on steep discounts like their competitors, ensure emulations and artistic expressions are shut down immediately, and barely change shit to their flagship games such as Pokemon. They’re creatively stale and are blessed to have a rabid fan base who can’t see through it.
I got a switch since my kid brought grades home, but that’s the last piece of electronic device I’ll ever buy from Nintendo. This is someone who has played back in its heyday the N64.
People who ‘boycott’ and go back to buying what they boycotted because said company pushed out a halfass apology tweet deserve to lose their money.
Edit: lol at the Nintendo fan boys downvoting
What’s this boycott and half assed apology thing? I completely missed whatever that was.
Fucking PREACH!
They’re definitely creatively stale, but they’re also undeniably good at what they do. They have by far the best selling console of the last generation, and are the only console company to consistently post healthy profits on their operation.
Is it a bit naff that their next generation of games will almost certainly be yet another Zelda, yet another Mario, yet another Pokémon? Absolutely. But if their next Zelda game is yet another best-selling critically acclaimed success, who are we to say that they’ve got the wrong approach?
You seem to be missing the point, the Nintendo Switch is handily the most popular game console in US gaming history. It has officially sold more units than the PS2.
I’m sorry that you don’t appreciate the switch, it’s an amazing general purpose gaming console.
Literally a lie. Also they have a point, you missed it not them
Switch is still behind PS2 and DS. Don’t think they’ll get that 3rd wind to get them across thr finish line for 1st place. Pandemic + AC releasing timing was a lightning in a bottle type of coincidence to help get the sales to the 150m mark.
Everything I can find still puts the switch behind not only ps2 but also the DS. Any chance you got a link?
It’s all right I wouldn’t say it’s groundbreaking. There are many portable computers including the steam deck that are far superior in terms of capability and openness.
Doesn’t think switch is groundbreaking. Proceeds to list handheld that wouldn’t exist without the Switch breaking that ground. lol
You’re going to need some evidence that that’s the case because my understanding is that Valve had been working on the steam deck for a while.
Hell the steam deck isn’t even the first handheld gaming computer, and the switch came out after the first handhelds, so even if Valve were influenced by the existence of the switch (which they weren’t), we would have still got the steam deck via other mechanisms.
I’ve got* no idea how this’ll work out. Nvidia is American.
In Europe it’s €385+taxes (all advertised prices must include tax) which is $425+tax, with two (mandatory) years of warranty included in price
The Switch 2 looks like absolute garbage so they can keep it.
My next console purchase with be a Steam Deck.
I’ll probably get the Switch 2 eventually, but not for a year or two. I also have a Steam Deck, and they’re both great.
I’ll be interested to see a comparison between the Steam Deck and Switch 2 since the Switch 2 could have better performance (but probably comparable).
That’s the thing. It’s 2025. The Switch came out in 2017 and the Switch 2 is barely a step up from the Switch OLED. Which, BTW, isn’t even and option on the Switch 2. And 256 memory? Is that a joke? Plus their new scheme is to not have the games on the physical cartridge but to only have a key code on the cartridge that transfers to the console. And that’s not even looking and the drastically inflated price of the games. Not just new games but all the old ones are priced out at $80 to $90 a piece as well.
Uh, what?
The Switch OLED was a slight improvement in battery, a better screen, and a nicer kickstand. That’s it.
The Switch 2 is an all new SOC, 1080p (more than the 1200x800 on Steam Deck) @ 120 hz, and a few other improvements. It’s pretty comparable to the Steam Deck, just in a smaller form factor with a larger screen. We don’t have direct head-to-head testing yet, but I expect it will trade blows with the Steam Deck, perhaps surpassing it in some games.
only have a key code on the cartridge that transfers to the console
That’s not the only option on Switch 2, it’s just an additional one. I imagine most games will still have the classic game card available.
I’m not happy about it, but I can see people preferring it to regular digital purchases for things like gifts.
Not just new games but all the old ones are priced out at $80 to $90 a piece as well.
That’s a completely separate complaint from the console, and I’m really not sure why you brought it up. Nintendo doesn’t compete on price for its games, they compete on IPs, gameplay, and overall experience.
Ask about your use case
You might do better with just a htpc
And many smart TVs can use the Steam Link app, so you may not need any new hardware at all if you just want to connect your PC to your TV.
i have a steam deck and it’s awesome but it’s silly to think that it looks like garbage. the switch 2 looks pretty awesome.
Are we tired of winning yet America ?
Tbh I was tired way before any of this.
Are… Are we great again, yet?
Brown people can still drink from the same fountains still, so no. /s
The jury is still out it seems
most americans are tired, honestly. source: I am very fucking tired.
Still, almost half are OK and happy about this 😮💨
why do you think the rest of us are so tired?
I am too and I’m also tired…
Not until Nintendo picks up and moves to America.
Unfortunately, we’ll probably keep winning for at least the next few months, it looks like the party is just getting started.
You can still get a Steam Deck and save a ton of games.
Looks like it has some promising titles but I don’t think price wise it can compete with the ryzen based handheld pcs like the steam deck etc. It doesn’t make much sense so far as I can tell but I’m still curious what titles it gets and how the battery life compares
No OLED screen at that price point was the deal-breaker for me.
Yeah I get that it’s obvious they are going to introduce an oled later. Very predictable imo and yeah if I ever buy one it’s going to be oled as well.
But yeah I’m at least waiting to see if the battery life is decent and what other titles it gets beforehand, right now I feel it has potential But at this moment in time I’d rather have a pc based handheld.
It’s not competing with the Steam Deck though.
The Switch 2 is competing for casual gamers and puts the couch experience first. That’s why detachable controllers are such a big deal, and why graphics quality never was a major concern.
The Steam Deck is targeting the PC gamer crowd who pretty much never play on the couch or local multiplayer. It’s far more important to be ergonomic to hold, have greater compatibility with PC games, and give the user more control (tinker with settings and mods).
They’re two very different products targeting two very different groups of people. I own both, and the Switch is mostly for family time while the Steam Deck is for me time. I wouldn’t buy a Switch if I was single, and I wouldn’t buy a Steam Deck if the goal was party games. They’re very different products.
🤣 all those Republican Nintendo fans have to love all this winning. What a bunch of dumbasses.
I really wonder how big that demographic is. My impression is that most Republicans would be culturally turned off by Nintendo’s brand.
Don’t ever tell them about that one quest in BOTW
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Did anyone check with reddit
Blanket no on that one
Still scared.
Did anyone check with reddit
Surprised Reddit just hasn’t shut down r/Nintendo since Spez and Musk are scared of a 5 letter word.
Nope.
