• @[email protected]
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    1271 month ago

    Look up the book “Hell’s Angel’s” by Hunter Thompson.

    There’s a section in the book where he writes about the economics of being a hippie/biker/artist circa 1970.

    A biker could work for six months as a Union stevedore and save up enough money to go on the road for two years. A part time waitress could support herself and her musician boyfreind.

    • @[email protected]
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      471 month ago

      That’s what these guys grew up seeing and reading, huh? So they’re trying to govern with assumptions that have not held true for decades.

      • Bakkoda
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        221 month ago

        No they are not governing. They are attempting to rule using rhetoric they know sticks with older generations. That’s it. Just gotta keep people voting and they will say and do anything to get those votes.

      • @[email protected]
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        61 month ago

        Nah, young folk these days just don’t want to work. They need to buckle down, pull on the ol’ bootstraps, and work a part time job at the factory while going to college. No reason that shouldn’t support a family of 4 with a single income!

    • @[email protected]
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      91 month ago

      Sounds awesome! Reminds me of a Chinese Buddhist couple who work a few months then travel a few months to temples

    • @[email protected]
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      51 month ago

      I would take anything Hunter S. Thompson wrote with a massive grain of salt. He’s fun to read but gonzo journalism isn’t a great source for facts.

      • @[email protected]
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        81 month ago

        First, he wrote the book in the 1970s. People would have noticed if he was wildly off base.

        Second, you can do a quick search and prove his numbers were correct.

      • Lightor
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        261 month ago

        Which the parents pay for… They just don’t know what words mean anymore.

  • @[email protected]
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    People are checking out because the middle class is non-existent. It doesn’t matter how hard you work - the the prospect of getting ahead, owning a home, retirement is out of reach for the vast majority of people.

    People can work hard and stress themselves out or they can check out of the system and achieve largely the same result.

    This is about the failures of late stage capitalism. To claim the issue is free healthcare is gaslighting.

    • Jerkface (any/all)
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      491 month ago

      “Middle class” contrasts with “upper class” and “lower class”, not with “ruling class” and “working class”; it’s the wrong perspective.

      • @[email protected]
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        141 month ago

        It may be today, but a strong middle class is what placates the working class. Give em something to shoot for so they won’t shoot you.

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          “Middle class” IS working class. It’s a false distinction that only serves to undermine our only tool against the ruling class, class solidarity. (I think we’re kind of saying the same thing.)

    • Ulrich
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      31 month ago

      This is about the failures successes of late stage capitalism

      FTFY

    • Bakkoda
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      161 month ago

      He has free healthcare. That’s all he cares about.

      • @[email protected]
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        41 month ago

        And if he is projecting like everything else in his life he is playing candy crush in his office right now.

  • JokeDeity
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    101 month ago

    Just got done paying all my bills and mortgage with my health insurance. 🙃🙃🙃

  • HubertManne
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    411 month ago

    So us person here. This free healthcare he speaks of is news to me.

  • @[email protected]
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    131 month ago

    “I want to check that old building for treasure!” vs. “I want to check my son’s porn usage”.

  • @[email protected]
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    And rich people don’t have jobs because they mooch off poor people.

    Hypocrisy at its finest.

  • ThrowawayOnLemmy
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    Sure. Let’s just pretend video games are free. And so is healthcare. Also, how much health care does he think young people use? This is a stupid argument.

  • ZeroOne
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    501 month ago

    Free Healthcare ? In Amerikkka ?

    Since when ?

    • @[email protected]
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      151 month ago

      Only when you’re so poor (earn less than 15k/yr out 21k a year in some states) not having it functionally costs more money, but only so long as you follow all the bureaucratic rules to continually prove eligibility.

      And don’t forget, you still have to find healthcare providers that accept Medicaid, pay copays, etc.

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        In some states they don’t even have that. I’ve been seeking disability for six years in America for a partially broken back, with ten years of documented ongoing treatment at this point from childhood and my parent’s medical coverage (I can walk, but I’m stooped most of the time and get to live with chronic pain, yippee) and because I couldn’t get by on nothing, and got a part time gig that didn’t cross the threshold I still got my benefits denied. So like, in all technicality, though I see myself as an able-bodied young man and pursue an active lifestyle to make sure my weight doesn’t cause my spine to degrade and leave me fully paralyzed, I’m not even who this guy’s talking about, and I can’t get benefits through the current system. Now I’m just uninsured and planning to immigrate for education (and healthcare).

  • @[email protected]
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    251 month ago

    You gotta be fucking kidding me. What sort of disconnected boomer statement is that!?

    I hate using such terms as “boomer”, but how else am I going to describe this?

    I’m in Denmark, and I can just about get by on one job. I have friends from America struggling to make ends meet, and they’re working TWO jobs!

    So the fuck is this guy talking about!?

    • @[email protected]
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      101 month ago

      They’re close to saying the quiet part out loud here. The reason (one of them) universal healthcare gets so much pushback is because an employer provided healthcare is a major way to keep the working class in their place.

      I know so many people who have stayed in shitty abusive jobs because they can’t lose the healthcare. Imagine if people could fuck off and decide to live a less resource intensive life? Would be terrible for the economy.

      I’m pissed at the state of healthcare health business in this (u.s.) country, and I think you should be too!

      • @[email protected]
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        41 month ago

        I know so many people who have stayed in shitty abusive jobs because they can’t lose the healthcare. Imagine if people could fuck off and decide to live a less resource intensive life? Would be terrible for the economy.

        Theres people that was scared of losing their jobs that they didnt disobey managment and leave the factory before it was washed away in the helene floods… many died. But dont worry, the family got a $100 walmart giftcard for compensation…

  • Phoenixz
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    121 month ago

    Decades pass, yet politicians keep using the same bullshit claims, just the sauce is slightly different.

    Fuck Cheeto and the USA