• @[email protected]
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    Politically motivated kidnappings are terrorism. Our government is committing acts of domestic terrorism.

    • @[email protected]
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      391 month ago

      “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

    • @[email protected]
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      481 month ago

      Which means more 2A people need to start practicing.

      ICE agents shouldn’t get to go home at night.

      • @[email protected]
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        Realistically, what would happen if ICE agents came in the middle of the night and a person were to completely gun them down? I assume it would escalate responses in general, but what happens to that person? Is martyrdom as much as they could hope for?

        • @[email protected]
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          141 month ago

          Realistically, what would happen if ICE agents came in the middle of the night and a person were to completely gun them down?

          The videos I’ve seen the ICE agents are in street clothes. They aren’t wearing uniforms, no badges, nothing to indicate they’re official agents at all.

          If these people show up at night, I’d say open fire. They look like any other gang member.

          • @[email protected]
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            151 month ago

            Also, what’s worse, getting deported into slavelabour or dying in your home, but getting to fire back against the SS, ups ICE?

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              101 month ago

              100%. If I were American (I’m not), in my American home (also not), on American soil (again not) and the government decided I was too woke and wanted to deport me to a deathcamp out of country, I’d definitely choose the Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid ending.

              In fact, if this were happening in my town I might choose to go out slowly picking off as many ICE, government and police in their homes first.

        • @[email protected]
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          151 month ago

          Yeah, they’re not gonna live to the next day, unless they get all of the agents.

          But they would be doing a net good to society.

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          You would be labeled a terrorist, the ICE agents would become martyrs, and all future raids would be executed full SWAT style, with flashbangs, snipers, shoot to kill etc. They save a ton on deporting people, and get to straight up murder disidents in their home.

          • @[email protected]
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            21 month ago

            Trumps America is really incredible. People voted for this.

            Whenever you feel stupid like because you made a mistake or something, just remember that people voted for this, and then you don’t have to feel so stupid anymore.

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          You would be put in prison, and the only hope of getting out is your revolution winning, taking power and absolving all the people who to action of their crimes.

          Think about it this way: The government is tyrannical, but they don’t see it that way. They don’t see your use of the 2nd amendment as “valid”, they see it as killing federal officials trying to do their job. Your only chance is change.

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          That is objectively false. While most pro 2A people are rightwing, to say or even imply that it is all is ridiculous and counterproductive to resistance.

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          151 month ago

          Perhaps the outspoken ones from the past several decades.

          But there are plenty who don’t out themselves, because they understand trigger discipline.

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          81 month ago

          Second Amendment, specifically the ones who have be very staunchly against government overreach (coincidentally, they’ve been largely conservative, and pro Fascist 47 - at least the loud online ones).

    • TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)
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      And, they battle each case in court where people in the US are trying to get them back showing they were illegally kidnapped. So even when provided evidence they disappeared someone illegally, they are still fighting to keep them in one of these unregulated death camps.

      Due process is dead, ICE is now the Kings Guard sweeping up dissidents, minorities, and whoever else they/he want(s).

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        171 month ago

        Due process is dead

        SCROTUS told the trump admin yesterday that due process needs to be followed. All 9 of them.

        Of course, SCROTUS didn’t say a word about the people who have already been deported, but I suppose it’s something…

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    And to cut costs of “deporting” people, they will use trains. And to make it less traumatic, they won’t be transferred to prisons, they’ll call them camps. But not just normal camps, camps where people can concentrate on becoming better citizens. What if we call them… idk… concentration camps?

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    Shahid Bolsen had an interesting idea. That if they are going to allow people to buy US citizenship for 5 milli that US citizens should be able to sell their for the same price. A person could use the bread to repatriate in another country. 🤔

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    It’s to Eliminate political opponents and the press in the open. It’s how Putin does it and how Nazi Germany started out before moving on to other groups to eliminate. These are the Fascist States of America.

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    I prefer to die in a shootout at home in my PJs rather than a gulag in a shithole I can’t find on the map without cheating.

  • Archangel
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    101 month ago

    So, NAL, but…I’m pretty sure this violates both international law and US law.

  • @[email protected]
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    231 month ago

    …if it identifies a pathway it can claim to be legal

    Based on everything else they have done ignoring legality, I have very little faith they won’t just start doing it anyways.

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      11 month ago

      they don’t give a fuck about the law or the legality of whatever they get up to, we know that and they most definitely know that.

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    91 month ago

    But if you want to renounce your US citizenship you still have to jump through a shitton of red tape and pay $2,350 USD - and they STILL might deny the request to renounce.