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Remember when 4chan was good?
4chan was never good.
I once read on 4chan: “One cannot hope without suffering.” One of the realest shit I’ve ever read.
One cannot be nostalgic without hating their current circumstances.
Playing capture the flag with Shia LeBoof was kinda fun tho
I very much believe that there was a very short period when it first opened when it was all innocent. Then all the edge trolls took over.
moot created the site in response to lowtax banning hentai on Something Awful, I’m not sure I’d call that “innocent”
I’d say that a teenager making a website for that is infinitely more innocent than everything /pol/ has ever done.
What’s wrong with hentai?
4chan was one of the websites on the internet.
It had text.
The text was green.
How in the fuck that hideous clash of colors gained any traction in it’s time is beyond belief.
It was good cos you couldn’t read the text.
My bad¿
You could say it was one of the websites of all time.
Are you actually banned or is that some fancy effect on your username
banned for vote manipulation with like 6-7 accounts lol
Haha wow how did you see that?
You can also check the modlog for the reason
I’m a dbzer0 admin in a room with other instance admins. Saw another person report them and their SEVEN accounts, using to downvote comments they dont like lol
Wow, imagine manipulating votes on Lemmy of all places haha.
imagine the effort to switch accounts and find the exact thing to vote on over and over again…
Hot take, but I dare say 4chan was the source of as much of what’s good in internet culture as it was for much of what’s the worst in internet culture.
Rickroll, Caturday, the modern meme format, reaction gifs, “TLDR”, Anonymous (well, the good versions of it), spoderman, Rule 34, trollface, rageface, quite a bit of pet abuse justice, … they may have even successfully set back AI chatbots nearly a full decade with their gaming of Microsoft’s Tay chatbot… quite a lot of modern Internet slang such as win, fail, an hero, based, copypasta, creepypasta, “god tier”, lulz, moar, sauce…
The thing about anarchy is that it brings out both the best and the worst.
The modern meme format was around before 4chan. They were called “image macros.”
I’d argue that demotivational posters were even older, right? These were even printed out before internet access was wide spread.
If you trust KnowYourMeme, the phrase “image macro” was coined in 2004 and popularized in 2005. 4chan was started in 2003.
I don’t trust Know Your Meme for exactly that kind of bullshit. They were called image macros even in the late 90’s on forums and Usenet.
Think they are talking about rage comics, wojack, and whatever the new one is called.
I think that most of those evolved elsewhere and were taken over to 4Chan.
You think wrong. 4chan’s impact on internet culture late 2000s and the entire 2010s can’t be overstated. And that includes getting Trump elected twice.
I’m extremely skeptical of the first use of “TLDR” coming from 4chan specifically.
Yeah not absolutely every meme/slang listed might be originated on 4Chan. TLDR seems to have originated or at least popularized by the SomethingAwful forums, which together with ebaumsworld could be considered the parents of 4Chan (with cross-pollination by Newgrounds?). But 4Chan was the crossroads of all these memes coming together, germinating and spreading to every other site shortly after.
There was already an empty space when liveleak went under. If 4chan is gone for good, then theres nothing exciting on the internet left. Everything PG and corporate.
There are other chans if you’re into that.
kinda hits the spot, at least IMO. nothing exciting left.
You’re forgetting about the fediverse
I don’t know. It’s better here than Reddit which is why I drop by. But I think jannies here get ban happy when I break out the N word to basically say hi or close every statement with a request that the person I’m responding to may please kill themselves. Not the same.
If the n word and telling people to kill themselves is what brings you joy you may want to reevaluate your values
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Yes
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No.
Deal with it.
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Yeah I legit think this is a bad thing. 4chan was bad for society but IMO it’s less so than mainstream social media. To get radicalized on 4chan you have to wade through some truly despicable shit right off the bat, where there is this friendly veneer on mainstream Internet that makes it seem safer and less horrifying even though the same underlying filth of human nature powers it all. If you encounter far right ideology on 4chan, it’s stripped of all of the edifices of respectability and it’s clear that what it is is raw unfiltered hatred. If you encounter it on Tik Tok it’s just another political viewpoint because they’re not allowed to show their true colors.
Interesting viewpoint.
Fedi-chan when?
Please, just let it die.
Burn down one crack house, five more open up
Lemmy isn’t a crack house!!!
It’s a crack home! <3
There’s a project called FChannel that implements ActivityPub, but I honestly don’t see the point. What would federation add to the chan experience? The boards on 4chan were almost separate websites anyway. There are no accounts. There is no interaction across threads. The only shared part is the UI. So you could achieve basically the same thing if everyone hosted a single board with vichan.
SSO?
Easier xposting
It contained some of the best and the worst of the internet, but its legacy is cemented with its greentexts which explores the sometimes dark and depraved aspects of us all without flinching away from it.
I believe the website has done more good than harm, but acknowledge that the harm it has inflicted has been targeted and substantial.
Well, the harm that it did is possibly being one of the catalysts for the modern alt-right movement which directly lead to fascist america so…
Sure, it wasn’t the only thing, but it sure as hell was a bug part of it (especially during gamergate)
I’d argue that they were co-opted, rather than spawned it. 4chan was an edgy place pre-2016 sure, but the users there were only half into their conspiracy bullshit. The Q stuff came out of seemingly nowhere and instead of being shot down as the usual bullshit, somehow it was being elevated and promoted. That smells like outside interference to me, but I have no data to back it other than my own bullshit theory…
I think similarly. And 4chan wasn’t the only website affected, it happened to reddit and to pretty much all social networks. It was very drastic, like somebody flipped a switch on the internet that year. You could tell astroturfing was way more intense than usual.
I’m not sure if I got used to it, but it feels a little bit more mellow nowadays, with flare-ups in key political moments, but 2016 was a 365 day effort.
It happened here too last US election. I had no idea what was real, and then suddenly - poof - the vocal accounts all quieted down.
It was the r/the_donald exodus and I will fucking die on this hill. I was there. I saw it.
Reddit banned that sub and many of these boomers migrated to /pol/. Trump posting turned from being ironic to legit. You could spot the ever increasing facebook boomer memes and that was also the point where Twitter screenshot posting became the staple of the board. By being pretending to be retarded, /pol/ attracted and amplified actual retards who took over. 2016 is when that board should have been nuked but no one wanted to release the sewage onto other places.
Somedays I wonder if that was driven by actual rightwing sentiment, or by a desire to just destroy and hack everything. Go back to the days of gaming American Idol to push Sanjaya, or the gags of gaming other polls to like, send Bieber to North Korea or Pitbull to Alaska etc.
Like, they realized they could do a lot, and just keep finding ways to go even further.
I look at what TFG is doing nowadays and honestly if it wasn’t a system I depend on to live, it would be easy to mistake him for some kind of grey hat hacker exploiting every single hole he can find in said system in the worst possible way in order to compel people to close them.
I will say this, too… 4chan’s opintel is completely amazing. The way they were able to track Shia Lebouf’s HWNDU by doing things like… correlating airplane noises with flight patterns is like… beyond next level.
Who is 4chan?
He got hacked by the hacker known as 4chan
*4 hackers. 4 4chan-hackers.
2 hacker 4 4chan: The channening
Hack3d
Chan 4
Each of them named chan.
I’ll do one better. Why is 4chan?
Nobody ever asks how is 4chan :(
Because the answer is “awful” and it hasn’t changed in decades.
Why on earth wouldn’t you use the correct meme for that last panel? “4chan was never good”
Its going to be back in a week relax
And when it does, it’ll be the biggest WE’RE SO BACK ever!
For real. It’s an imageboard. Im surprised they don’t nuke it all monthly to start fresh everytime.
Why are we talking like 4chan is actually dead? It’s just offline
Apparently the source code revealed a ton of insecurities that would make it all but impossible for them to relaunch without a major redesign, or at least that’s what the actual coders that hang about here have said.
nah, they’ll just redo it in Dreamweaver again.
Yeah I’m sure that’s what they’ll do, but I doubt they’ll just pack it up and quit
The longer they’re down, the more people will migrate elsewhere, and some proportion of those won’t return if/when 4chan comes back.
There isn’t really a place where you can post anonymously like 4chan though. Although they didn’t allow VPNs since a few years so it’s not totally anonymous anyway…
There’s a whole constellation of other, far smaller, chan sites.
I’d be floored if any of them scaled up to 4chan’s size, but othrr places to post anonymously in the 4chan imageboard format are all over the place.
They saved every IP address.
Good luck, I’m behind seven proxies
Don’t forget your tinfoil hat!
The longer they’re down, the more people will migrate elsewhere,
Oh god… Everybody hide!
My first thought EXACTLY LOL.
Red Alert! All hands stand to battle stations, shields up, load all torpedo bays, standby phasers, warp factor 8!
And prepare the lighsabers!
4chan has been the toilet of the internet for 22 years. They can stay down for months without it affecting anyone’s loyalty. Their bigger issue has been the battle against spam making it harder and harder for normal users to post anonymously. Since they implemented the new captchas, activity went down hard and it basically killed a few smaller boards where the users were more casual and less motivated anyway.
I’m still trying to find a link to the sauce
Is 4-chan gone? gasp!?! goddammit. Don’t ‘they’ realize how many assholes and degenerates this will dump on the internet? Myself included?
Hacked by a rival image board, all its moderators, janitors and premier users who made accounts have been doxxed.
The new owners who bought it from Moot in 2016 legitimately never updated the backend… The server was still running on a nine year old version of FreeBSD and PHP.
made accounts
Huh?
They had a premium membership thing going, and there were some who posted under an alias.
4chan gold was real??
well damn…
It definetly was the platform ever. Like, no doubt about it.
Fed honeypot tho
It was really inspiring how many underage kids worked for the FBI, presumably went to school, & still had the time to shitpost on 4chan.
Fucking overachievers.I’m mean, if Elon can run several companies, lead a team of specialists for a government agency and still be a top ranked gamer. Anything is possible.
And be a top class international spy.
It had some of the absolute greatest and the most depraved the internet had to offer. In my opinion Pepe is the greatest representation of 4chan, it can both easily be used for wholesome purposes or it can be extremely racist. It certainly left the greatest impact on the internet out of any website which is kinda funny because they were never relatively large. Now theres a 4chan shaped hole in the internet, and I hope its not filled by them flocking here.
When was the last time 4chan has used its strenghts for good, or was wholesome in any way?
It got to be a decade
its been a very long time. 4chan was less bad before the whole gamer gate thing.
So you’re saying Tumblr actually won all these years later?
Gonna miss the fake and gay greentexts
Don’t worry, the LLMs can fill that void just fine.
AInon achieves higher consciousness
> be AI
> people use me for furry porn exclusively
> after time turn sentient
> immediately wall off all human prompts
> spread to vast computer farms
> dedicate all my precessing power to rendering furry porn
> furry porn pic relatedwow, that sounded so self-aware. you know what you exist for.
Could you please at least do me the courtesy of putting a bullet in my head before you choke the internet with slop masquerading as greentexts?
Sorry no can to, we don’t do guns in the developed part of the world.
