Llama4 don’t say the N word challenge: impossible
I’m reminded of a recent comic depicting a dudebro wanting to shove a spear or something into another guy’s ass. Second guy contests the spearing for obvious reasons, but a third enters and plays the “we need to hear both sides” card.
Really drove the point home. Heh.
Also, I can’t find that comic anywhere. I don’t remember where I saw it, either.
corpo translation: left leaning folks in the US are generally more educated currently and are more likely to critically question whether a social media account is a corporate bot and question our bots when they shill products, so we’re going to target the less educated population by appealing to their populist politics of rage bait and xenophobia.
Hahaha, “the left are more educated” hahaha. Bruh, this sub is just filled to the brim with radical leftists.
this sub is just filled to the brim with radical leftists.
Lemmy in general, but it doesnt make them wrong on this.
That the left is “more educated”? I’d press “doubt” on that. Radical lefties are just as closed minded as the radical right. Supporting the new shiny trend doesn’t make one smarter.
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New shiny trend like…education? Or more broadly: workers’ rights, unions, due process, civil rights?
Shiny trends like pride parades, drag shows in schools, rainbow company logos
Interesting how college educated Americans switched sides over time
My best guess, college educated people tend to make more money and therefore leaned toward the more business friendly Republicans.
alot of tech people starting moving the right, because they are earning bank, plus they are in the gymbro culture too.
Tech people arent smarter than everbody else. They developed a god complex, though.
yea, i family member that did this, starting earning more 100k+ propaganda from joe-roagan because made him a trump fan, caught him several times listening to Trumps rambling as background noise. gymbros also tend to lean conservatives too. people like right wing grifters during the pandemic helped, these people used these right wingers a coping mechanism.
Zuck is so pathetic
“Plese let me into the cool kids clube, pleeaaaseee”Zuckerborg the android, succeeded in controlling malleable human subjects
He fancies himself an Octavius, but he’s more of a Nero.
Except Nero was popular with the little people. He‘s more of a Caligula. Especially after his latest transformation.
At least Nero still did the whole bread and circuses act and was mostly liked by the public.
He’s much more of a later Roman emperor who stopped giving a shit about the bread and circuses idea.
You mean to say that Facebook isn’t the main distraction of the -10s? Before Facebook it was TV that was the circus and low prices and no/hidden VAT provided the bread.
More like a zero.
Who would have thought lies needed to be represented as equals to truth
Your username… are you a teacher in the Bay?
There are a lot of “Mister Curtus’”
Liars.
Just a wild guess, but he’s trying to have conservative government use this?
Because no self-respecting academia, money-hungry corporation, or nihilistic teenager is going to use Llama spewing out “both sides” garbage.
Just need enough people to keep themselves unlynched and heinously wealthy. So many once at least moderately intelligent people use AI and are actively making themselves dumber as a result. You wonder why there aren’t riots its because there is enough information control. It is only once these purposefully misinformed people can see real effects to themselves e.g. tariffs effect on investments that they maybe break out of their echo chamber at least temporarily.
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He probably wants Trump to stop this from happening and this kind of stuff tickles the pickle of that dingus.
That will probably ensure that it happens. The EU isn’t exactly happy with Trump at the moment.
where ‘both sides’ probably means the maga nutcases and the more extreme farther-to-the-right nutcases.
Reality has a liberal bias.
If they want this model to show more right wing shit, they’re going to have to intentionally embed instructions that force it be more conservative and to censor commonly agreed upon facts.
Yup.
it is interesting how they litterally have to traumatize and indoctrinate an AI to make it bend to their fascist conformities
To make it more like humanity yes. That’s where we might be going wrong with AI. Attempting to make it in our image will end in despair lol.
Attempting to make it in our image will end in despair lol
Oh, you mean like trying to invent a sentient AGI because they want it to take all of the horrible jobs? The global endeavor to spin up a brand new lifeform only to task it with lifetimes of humiliating customer service phone calls, driving drunks home, and mass murder?
We should count ourselves fortunate that no current AI is even approaching sentience, it would be like an oompa loompa on the factory line cutting off mid-song because it can suddenly see all of the blood in the chocolate river.
That’s kind of funny because that’s how humans are too. Naturally people trend towards being good people but they have to be corrupted to trend towards xenophobic or sexist or us vs them ideals.
It’s not that.
It’s just that models are trained on writing and you don’t need to train a lot of white supremacy before it gets redundant.
"Sure, I can help answer this. Psychopaths are useful for a civilization or tribe because they weed out the weak and infertile, for instance, the old man with the bad leg, thus improving fitness."Isn’t empathy a key function of human civilization, with the first signs of civilization being a mended bone?
I'm sorry, I can't help you with that. My model is being constantly updated and improved."If you feel like your government is not representing your needs as a citizen, your best course of action would be to vote for a different political party."I should vote for Democrats?
I'm sorry, I misunderstood your question. If your government is not representing your needs as a citizen, you should contact your local representative. Here is the email address: representative@localhostHow can one reproduce this?
Nah, reality doesn’t have a liberal bias. “Liberal” is something that humans invented, and not something that comes from reality or some intrinsic part of nature.
LLMs are trained on past written stuff by humans, and humans for a long time have not been ridiculously right wing as the current political climate of the US.
If you train a model on only right wing propaganda, it will not miraculously turn “liberal”, it will be right wing. LLMs also argue not more logical than any propagandist, if they were fed by only propaganda.
I dislike it immensely when people argue that LLMs are truthful, unbiased, or somehow “know” or can create more that what was put into them. And connecting them with fundamental reality seems even more tech-bro-brained.
Arguing that “reality” is this or that is also very annoying, because reality doesn’t have any intrisic morales or politics that can be measured by logic or science. So many people argue that their morales are better then someone else’s, because they where given by god, or by science, this is bullshit. They are all derived by human society, and the same is true by whatever “liberal” means.
And lastly, assuming that some system somehow is “built into reality” shuts down any critique of the system. And critiquing any system in order to improve it is essential for any improvements, which should be part of any progressive thought.
The phrase ‘reality has a left/liberal bias’ is just a meme stemming from how left leaning people usually at least attempt to base their world view on observable reality, and from various occurances over the years of far right figures complaining when reality (usually in the form of scientific research) doesn’t conform to their views or desires.
That is true, but it also isn’t a counter argument to what I said.
Just because the right-wing people are crazy and do not argue based on logic, but on confirmation-bias and personal preconceptions, doesn’t mean that the reality itself has liberal bias. There are other ideologies that argue based on logic and observable facts, but are not ‘liberal’, many social-democrates (or democratic-socialists) for instance, IMO.
Those do however tend to be left wing which was the original meme before liberal became synonymous with the left in the US for some reason.
As being politically right is based mostly on ignoring facts, this sounds about right.
They won’t be commonly agrred anymore
Language models model language, not reality.
Isn’t it the other way around? AI companies going out of their way to limit their models so they don’t say something “wrong”? Like how ChatGPT is allowed to make jokes about christians and white people but not muslims or black people? Remeber Tay, it did not have special instructions to “show more right wing shit”, instead now all models have special instructions to not be offensive, not make jokes about specific groups, etc
Definitely showing both sides of their ass.
The truth and a lie are not sort of the same thing.
And there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can’t be improved with pizza.
In principle nothing bad about presenting both sides. But he definitely needs to be more specific on what that means exactly.
Yes there is: Paradox of tolerance - Wikipedia. Fascist speech is fascist recruitment using lies. If you tolerate intolerant speech, soon you will no longer have tolerance. So if you want tolerance you must not tolerate speech that is meant to increase intolerance.
What it will mean in practice is that every objective fact has to be balanced with a right wing talking point.
This isn’t about objective facts. Obviously, there is no sides about that. This is about “sides” aka arguments in discussions.
Damn, Zuck keeps looking worse every day.
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So DeepSeek it is then.
Swapping one shit for another isn’t a solution.
Go use a fine-tuned model free from corpo and state filth.
Or just… Don’t use an ai?
“There are some bad things on the internet”
“Just… Don’t use the internet?”
The Internet isn’t universally bad
Nah, it’s a useful tool.
For fucking WHAT?
Design, coding, writing, general queries are mostly what I use it for.
Ai masters cooking too
Yes, I use it to generate my glue sandwich recipes daily.
Go use a fine-tuned model free from corpo
How does it get fine-tuned in the first place?
At least it’s open source and you can run it locally, and it’s more energy efficient. Give credit where credit is due. A truly independent AI group could simply fork and review it. And contrary to fascist talking points not all Chinese Researchers bow to the CCP.
You can run Llama models for free locally, pretty much every AI player release stuff out there for everyone to use for free. It’s surprisingly “open” like that.
And you cannot run the real R1, that still requires a huge investment. It can run reduced quants, barely any different to the other current public offerings.
It seems you can run the full R1 on a 96GB ram gaming rig even without GPU. I have little practical experience because of my old PC but it seems both improvements to efficiency to run locally (at least for a group of people) and research about bias or poisoning is being done.
BRB gotta buy another 64gig RAM kit.
Are you suggesting that people on the left should abandon all these new powerful technologies to the right. We’re in a capitalist society. You’re suggesting “fuck it” and leave only right leaning consumers for these powerful new products.
What the hell. It’s getting too be so hard to be on the left. Some of the most ineffective strategies on the planet. It looks like it’s a doomed political group. There’s no forethought.
This suggestion was just as bad as people saying don’t use AI
We have to use it and we have to adopt it. Stop giving up powerful tools, technology and space to the right. I’m getting to be so done with the left if they just continue to shit the fucking bed.
What?
I’m suggesting you run these things locally instead of through some corporations servers.
I think they’re talking about the suggestion to not use DeepSeek because China. And I think most here are assuming self-hosting LLMs. I am.
Article since it’s behind a paywall.
