The plan would replace the $600 million in subsidies Denmark gives the island each year
The Donald Trump administration is reportedly considering giving about $10,000 to each Greenland resident as part of its plan to annex the island.
The possibility would seek to replace the $600 million Denmark gives the territory in subsidies every year, and has stopped being mere rhetoric to become official U.S. policy, according to The New York Times.
The outlet detailed that the plan already includes several cabinet departments and that the White House’s National Security Council has met several times to advance on it, recently sending specific instructions to different offices.
The plan would replace the $600 million in subsidies Denmark gives the island each year
A quick google tells me Greenland has a population of ~57,000. At $10k per resident, that’s $570 million.
On money alone, his offer is less than what they already receive, and unless he’s pitching for some sort of UBI it’ll be a one-time payment instead of annual. Is this the art of the deal they keep talking about?
10k to get lost, it’s unspoken but the money is to leave the country because that is then owned by Trump.
This is a typical Trump deal, Trump gets what he wants and the other side gets ripped off. There never will be equal footing between trading partners in a Trump deal.
It’s going to cost more than that just to hire movers that will transport outside the country. It doesn’t even come close to what it would cost to set up a new life somewhere else.
On top of this, Denmark had been doing this every year. The only thing you can count on Trump doing every year is to change his mind and ask you if you’ve said thank you for it.
That’s assuming that they pay out.
Also, Denmark subsides are probably in Euros. So it’s already 5% higher just on Trump’s first 3 months.
Denmark actually isn’t part of the eurozone and uses its own currency, Danish krone
Interestingly, the value of the Danish krone is pegged to the value of the euro, meaning the job of the national bank is to ensure a more or less constant exchange rate of 1€ = 7.45DKK.
So when the euro performs well, the krone performs well.
The right-wing tactic of dismantling a program or getting a discount by offering lump sum cash up front, instead of better value in programs and services.
They prey on desperate, uneducated people who see the money in front of them.
Desperate is the right word, and I think they’re intending to make people more desperate in order to exert control.
I’m not saying a $10k gift would be life-changing, but it would pay off a significant amount of my debt, freeing up a lot of my monthly cash flow.
Ok so as a nation Denmark accepts the offer and let’s assume everyone gets their $10k, pays off some debts, buys some luxuries, has a holiday, banks a decent amount. What about the negatives? For example now healthcares no longer free. Seems like it would cost more than you’d gain.
Oh definitely. I think they’re being offered a horrible deal. But I can see how some might be inclined to take the shitty deal if their current financial situation is in fact one of desperation. I hope their citizens are in better shape than Americans.
It’s like Brexit…didn’t matter how much time people spent pointing out the negatives, there’s still people that bought into it, for numerous reasons.
I have very little debt and no savings, but a 10k gift would only pay for like 2-3 months of living. That’s not enough for me to sell out my fellow countrypeople and give up my most basic rights.
Hell even a million wouldn’t be enough for me to agree to be American at this point.
Not gonna lie, this is kinda how I’m watching the subsidies on chinese EV.
Now, would I want to pay taxes to export European cars to the rest of the world? Hell no.
So I’m quite confused
Ten thousand US dollar as personal money for leaving democracy and entering a dictatorship (or at least an autocracy)? Err…
For giving up public healthcare for one
I’m in the US, where’s my $10,000?
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This would be funny if it wasn’t so depressing.
They already get $10k from Denmark every year, so they’d get nothing in comparison.
Art of the deal 🥴
Explain to me more about this $10k from denmark. Does denmark have some amount of UBI?
They run a large budget deficit each year which Denmark subsidises out of historical obligation, since they subjugated Greenland. Fair enough I say.
Greenland is largely independent on internal policies and have their own laws, but still technically part of Denmark.
This is my laymen’s explanation.
I think that’s pretty accurate
My understanding is that these are government to government subsidies, not government to people subsidies. That’s quite different from what the usa is offering
$1m would be insulting.
$10k is beyond insulting. That’s probably one the cheapest entry fees to one of his disgusting Mar-a-Lago fundraisers.
Trump really has a knack for insulting people. He’s basically saying “You’re worth a fifth of a Tesla car”. How cheap can you be…How cheap can you be…
More up to date:
Red tie to match all them red stocks
Cheap and tacky.
the fucking plastic boxes salads and soggy burgers on ornate silver trays is just sooooooooooooo… i don’t even have the words
Apparently Trump is absolutely fucking terrified of people poisoning his food. It’s why he eats like shit - random fast food is harder to poison.
1This demonstrates how he thinks - He’s obviously getting paid by Putin to destroy America, so he thinks everybody else is just like him. Offer enough money, and theyll sell out their country, too. He has no conception of patriotism or loyalty to his country.
I’d promise him anything he wants, take his money (after jacking it up to a million bucks), then immediately betray him. Everybody in his country should do that. Whats he going to do, sue me for not being a traitor? He can go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut.
I got cold-called by one of those “We’ll buy your house!” scam outfits one time asking if I was interested in selling my modest single-story, two bedroom / one bathroom house.
Me: Not really!
Them: Well, if you were going to, what price would you hope to get?
Me: You know what, let’s say five million dollars.
Them: Uh… is this the house at [my address]?
Me: Sure is!
Them: And… five million? You’re firm on that?
Me: Well, anything is negotiable, of course. I’ve got to go now, bye!
And I just really hope that I wasted a little bit more of their time that day, but if someone were to make a horrible paperwork error and accidentally offer me five million dollars for a house worth a fraction of that, that’s really on them, I’d say.
That’s a visit to a US hospital
A single visit
for a warm blanket and a Tylenol
Lucky
How about if he threw in the Tesla’s with poor quality and no craftsmanship? Y’know to boost all those American manufacturing jobs, and the mechanics, and Elon’s tax subsidized billions.
Even for free I honestly don’t think I could do it. And I live in California where fucking everyone has a Tesla. I’d sell it if I thought I could I guess.
And we’re paying for it.
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“We’ll give you ten grand for the opportunity to be deported to an El Salvadoran prison if we don’t like you. It’s a great deal!”
And don’t forget to say “Thank you”.
this shit is funny af LOL
And wear a suit.
Even flight ticket is free.
The money isn’t for you to spend though, it’s for your relocation. Because you WILL be sent to El Salvador.
One could even say that’s an art of a deal, ay?
10,000 * 56,583 ~= 566 million < 600 million.
Bruh, he doesn’t even want to pay out the annual subsidy once.
<Dr. Evil $1 million dollars meme .gif >
Given what Trump is doing to the American economy, it might be better to offer Chinese Yuan.
Why do we need Greenland? Is it so we can easily attack Russia or something? Isn’t Alaska pretty fucking close? Like what is the reason for annexing Greenland?
Mineral rights and control of what will be a major shipping route as the North opens up due to climate change.
Fuck that’s insane. Makes perfect sense but holy shit. I fucking hate this planet and this country even more.
No it doesn’t make sense. Unless there is a grift.
Because in the past a company could negotiate for passage and minerals.
But this time a countrys leader wants to get in on that wealth and grift.
So it makes sense only if some asshole abuses their power for greed.
This all sucks.
I meant fucked as in our politicians are, despite what we think, thinking generations ahead to the point they’ve accepted the consequences of our actions and know there’s no going back and therefore looking for ways to monetize the future bleakness that is our world.
I worded what I said poorly. I agree with you, it makes no sense. Short term thinking. I was trying to say that they could do all sorts of horrible things in the old fashioned way, not draw much attention and not much complaint. They could accomplish their short sighted plans without all the drama and scrutiny.
Climate could play a part, too.
Especially since some of Greenlands resources would replace resources the US military purchases from CHYNA.
Do we really need to repeat trumps limp humor here? Its spelled ‘China’, Brad.
There is a shipping route opening up that would enable Asian-Europen-American trade via a about 2/3 shorter route than currently possible. It would make any route through the Suez canals or around Africa pointless. This might not sound important right now, but it would fundamentally change the fortunes of countries and reshape the world.
https://www.thearcticinstitute.org/future-northern-sea-route-golden-waterway-niche/
Greenland and all the areas surrounding it know this. They will not be giving Greenland to America.
I think it’s strategic for when he pulls the US out of Nato, of course he will want the resources as well.
Probably many greedy reasons, but my personal favourite speculation: annexing Greenland surrounds Canada and stops any potential aid by its NATO allies in case of an invasion, since annexing Canada is one of the stated objectives of the US now.
In terms of strategy for actual national security, they already got all the access they wanted, if they wanted more all they had to do was ask. If they’re the ones doing the attacking of a common ally, though, they wouldn’t get that access. So it’s only of added strategic value to annex instead of maintaining the alliance if the goal is to attack members of the alliance.
Ressource deposits.
If they pollute enough to finish melting the north pole , it open a new trade route. And the pollution part is already plan with coal mining and fracking.
Trump definitely won’t attack Russia. Vladimir Putin is his bestie.
I think Putin is uncomfortable with a NATO country in that strategic position, so he has manipulated Trump into thinking that it would be a good “real estate deal” for the US to take it over.
And he’ll totally get that money out to you any day now. The check is in the mail.
Greenland should say “we’re interested, but we’d need statehood and voting representatives in the house and Senate” - which would effectively end GOP control of the Senate for a generation.
If he tries anything like this in Canada I very much hope our leaders don’t say that. Those of us who haven’t fallen into the MAGA black hole don’t ever want to be part of the USA, even with representation in their rotten system of government. I’m fairly sure Greenlanders would feel similarly.
10k to live in a dictatorship, or wait 6 months and stay in a sane country? He’s stupider every day.
It’s a get lost payment, not a welcome to the USA bonus …
“America First!” -> garbage $600,000,000 bribe to Greenland citizens
[edit: whoops, you’re right, I left off three 0s]
600k? You dropped some zeros there. It’s $600,000,000.
He’d have to go a lot higher than 10k p.p. to even make them consider it, so that’d be billions. Luckily he has millions of tax payers who can fund his little obsession!
“The party of small government”. Tries to gobble up neighbours and allies.
No.
Oh gee Mr Trump a whole 10000, I can buy so many bubblegum with that
WTF!!
What a moronic proposal, as it is, Denmark is helping them with much more than that each year.
Greenland only has 56.669 inhabitants, giving everyone including children would only amount to 567 million!!
In direct Regional financial support alone Denmark is sending about 600 million USD per year.
And that’s apart from paying for instance police and military support.
And Greenland is tax exempt too!!What a demeaning cheapskate offer.
I believe Greenland should have the right to decide for themselves.
But as a Dane, I find that offer insulting!You don’t even need to be Danish to find that offer insulting.
I haven’t read Fart of the Meal or whatever it’s called, but I feel like asking Greenlanders what it would take for them to want to be annexed may be a better (but still not good) way to broach the subject. And, if they say there’s nothing at all the US can offer them, then take that as a blatant hint to back the fuck off.
