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The Trump administration said it would not provide information on how it will get a wrongly deported Maryland dad home by a Friday morning deadline because the timeframe a judge imposed was “impracticable.”

In effect, the Department of Justice (DOJ) is openly defying a court order that requires it to provide details about 29-year-old Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s whereabouts and how he will be brought back stateside.

“The Supreme Court has spoken quite clearly, and yet I can’t get an answer,” said Judge Paula Xinis.

“We must heed the Supreme Court and get him back,” Rep. Jamie Raskin said.

  • @[email protected]
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    601 month ago

    Emphisis on this: the judge didn’t even order to bring him back. The judge ordered them to outline the steps to bring him back. The Trump Admin can’t even do that.

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        31 month ago

        Let me guess…

        “Duuur how do we bring him back?”

        Hmmm let me think, maybe call the place up where you sent them and arrange for them to fly back. You know, the fucking obvious thing to do.

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            31 month ago

            Procrastinating when a judge has ordered you to do something is very unbecoming.

            Last time a President pulled this was Jackson for the Trail of Tears. Not exactly the legacy you want to to be knocking on the door of.

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    The entire budget for ICE +10% needs to be confiscated and paid to the victims and their families every single day until they are returned to the US.

    None of those fucks get paid until all the legal residents are back. Miss 1 person? No pay.

    This would be the minimum penalty on a functional government where this shit was done by accident.

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    Start issuing arrest warrants for contempt of court to members of the administration, ICE, and any other member of any department who was involved in the process. Shotgun tactics. Go for area effect. See what sticks. This is the time for judges who actually give a shit to go all-in on the maximal exercise of their power.

    Remember: Canp Auschwitz was in Poland, not Germany.

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        Just need to have them sent to el Salvador to serve the time for a contempt charge. Then there won’t be anything that can be done (according to the very same doj lawyers)

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    301 month ago

    The judges have power to enforce it.

    If they do not, then the tyranny has almost complete power.

    If they do, I suspect that violence will occur. I believe this is the outcome Trump is hoping for, because then he can skip the “almost” and completely sieze it through violent means.

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      51 month ago

      What the fuck are you on about. It’s their court. It was theirs already during biden. This is just a show of power at this point. ALL of the checks and balances are gone already.

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        101 month ago

        They ruled 9-0 that the trump admin had to bring him back. That’s pretty significant. The only question is whether there’s an “or else.”

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    191 month ago

    When asked why such basic tasks are impractical they will say “just look at how incompetent we are!”

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    351 month ago

    The judge needs to put Pam Bondi in a holding cell for contempt until Garcia is back in her courtroom.

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      51 month ago

      pam bondi is beholden to trump, because he bribed her to drop the trump lawsuit case against him.

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    201 month ago

    What precisely are the next steps in this process? If the SC has ruled, and they aren’t complying, do you charge the Secretary of State with contempt and send them to jail until they comply?

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      161 month ago

      The only way this ends in a sane world is the Supreme Court appointing marshals to arrest people.

      I think you and I both know the number of bad possible outcomes outnumber the positive number of outcomes… and I think that applies to this entire presidency

      I’m … tired.

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      31 month ago

      It doesn’t have to be the Secretary of State. It only has to be people with the authority to solve the problem. Preferably several of them.

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    991 month ago

    Do you think he’s dead or they just don’t want an exposé of the conditions?

    Or that diplomatic channels prevent it? Lol.

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        121 month ago

        Trump paid to send them there, and plans to even send American citizens.

        US has its own prisons, and many are for profit, so they generate money from prisoners.

        Now questions is why would we send people to a foreign country, and pay them to keep prisoners?

        The answer is simple: CECOT is used to outsource getting rid of people. And unless US continuously pays them to hold them (which I doubt it was more than one time fee), CECOT has no benefit of keeping those people alive.

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          It’s used to remove them from the protections of a US citizen on us property the same as gitmo which is why gitmo is expanding to 30k prisoners. They’re testing the waters without having to risk all the bullshit at gitmo at the same time. It’s shitty but it’s not likely to be a literal death camp specifically because no one is going to continue paying if they know that they’re dead. Duh.

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              They’re paying 20k per prisonor annually bud. He’s a greedy fool who rarely pays anything but he’s paying this.

              Cecot yes I’ve seen cecot. Presumably you meant to link the mounds of dirt which you didn’t actually do. They might well be killing their own intentionally, they aren’t likely to be doing that to Americans because payments would stop.

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      I’d argue they might be testing the waters to see how much they can get away with. It could be a logistics thing, but I doubt it. I highly doubt they care one way or another about the individual.

      This could be a blatant test on how far their power will extend. People haven’t been saying “authoritarian” and “threat to democracy” for the past few months just for the fun of it.

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        Yes, I think this is a first test to see how far they can stretch things with the law and deport people without justification at all.
        By extension it tests the current regimes ability and efficiency on how easily they can remove people. When it is clear there are no legal roadblocks and delays the shipping containers and “train transports” will come out…

        Also, I don’t think he’s dead, might have been beaten and barely fed.
        But they most likely will have no knowledge about his status or direct whereabouts at all, might even be handed over to El Salvador’s prison anonymously. Regimes in such prisons usually strip all identity anyway.

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          But they most likely will have no knowledge about his status or direct whereabouts at all, might even be handed over to El Salvador’s prison anonymously. Regimes in such prisons usually strip all identity anyway.

          Yep. Why keep track of the prisoners you never plan to let out?

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        21 month ago

        I think it’s logistics. They threw him in a pit with a hundred other guys. Maybe you can find the one who will claim he’s supposed to get out.

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      301 month ago

      He very well could be dead, but I think the primary thing happening here is they want to create the precedent that they can’t bring anyone back from this prison. That way, they can start sending “undesirable” American citizens “by mistake” and then just be able to say “not our problem”.

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      791 month ago

      Whether he’s alive or not, it’s more that they don’t care and don’t want to be told they have to do anything by some liberal activist judge.

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      21 month ago

      If he’s not dead yet they sure hope he dies quickly, right? That’s the objective. Export your executions.

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      71 month ago

      They don’t want him back because he’s not aryan.

      Oh sorry wrong fascists. Same principle though