I posted an amused and positive comment on the orange site about this and in 2 minutes got a threat about me getting hanged in the near future. Tech bros be panicing.
I mean, the same will happen here if you post the wrong opinion. It’s not that different from Reddit. (See how I used to word and nothing happened, btw?)
I would like to be hung. 😏
Is this the end of 4 Chan?
If so, it’s a fitting way for them to die.
No, the people who come there are retarded. They will still be retarded in a week or a month from now.
Who is this 4chan guy?
4chan died a long time ago.
When do you consider it died? 2015 when Poole sold it?
2016 when MAGApedes inavded the site.
Not invaded. The existing 4chan user-base inspired, and was targeted with, fascist propaganda starting with gamergate!
It was literally ground zero for fascist PsyOps. Steve Bannon even considered it an inspiration, and a pivotal moment, in the creation of his fascist propaganda machine.
Debatable, there was a influx of new users around that time with reprehensible views. I used 4Chan as it was happening.
Yeah, I deleted a paragraph re chicken & egg scenario whether or not it started on 4chan.
It could have very well been a targeted PsyOp by Russia/fascists from the get-go, potentially starting years before gamergate.
fascist propaganda starting with gamergate!
But 4chan banned Gamergate posts. That’s one of the reasons why 8chan was made.
The same year Twitter died then.
Around then for me. Hiroyuki allowed /pol/ to happen when moot tried it and ditched it quickly. Too many people started thinking their farts didn’t stink. I went there for anime discussions when every other popular site was a hugbox.
I wonder about this sometimes.
Poole knew he had a contentious base of users. I remember in 2013 or 2014, 4chan users posted photographic evidence his gf was cheating on him, and I think it broke him. I dont blame him for selling the site, but 18 months later… I wonder if Moot knew he was holding back the end of the world.
I wonder if Poole has done any interesting interviews on the intersection of 4chan and the modern fascist propaganda machine it bred.
I have this dream that one day I’ll like, sit next to him on an airplane and have a chance to ask him.
When the protests against scientology happened. Long before it was sold. Long before MAGA or the politics board were even a concept. It didn’t die immediately from them, but it was the start of a measurable drop in discussion quality that never stopped.
The “protests” devolved into some of the cringiest irl meetups of online communities I have ever come across (yes, worse than dashcon), and it caused so much media attention that it accelerated the “eternal september” problem the site always had exponentially.
Motherfuckers forgot the golden rule about “hiding your power level”, which at the time at least meant doing your best to appear relatively normal in public and went full “I’m a horribly socially maladjusted mess with bad hygiene who can only communicate via tired memes, look at me! Look at me! I know memes! Haha longcat is long am I right?”.
A lot of people remember the cringe of reddit’s “When does the narwhal bacon?” forced meme attempt at the world’s most embarassing “secret pass phrase” bullshit. The scientology “protests” were significant orders of magnitude more cringe.
4chan was never a secret club, but the sheer agressiveness of non-tolerance towards obviously new posters helped to maintain a very low bar of “quality”. I’d argue that’s needed to maintain any semblance of a community on an entirely anonymous image board that has minimal moderation. Shitty threads would get saged relentlessly, eating up the maximum comments a thread could have and drowning out any discussion in the shitty thread, all without bumping it back up to the top. Hit the reply limit and the thread slides off the bottom, gone forever.
“Lurk moar, faggot” was the phrase of the time. Stop posting until you figure out how things work around here.
But as more and more people unfamiliar with what shitty community existed came in, there hit a point where they outnumbered the old guard, and the already low quality of discussion tanked.
/b/ used to have discussion threads about all sorts of shit. Actual thought provoking stuff now and then. Funny stories. Occasionally legitimately good OC. It was the breeding ground for most of the memes and meme formats that spread to the internet at large. Mudkipz, rickrolling, EFG (the progenitor of trollface and rage comics), lolcats, advice animals. All /b/.
Now it is almost entirely people sharing photos of women they know that they’ve downloaded off the ladies’ social media accounts to jerk off to. Previously they would have been chased off to the dedicated porn (or softcore) boards using fire, pitchforks, and spam of the most digusting images the internet had until the posters got the message. Or at the very least they would have been bullied into a single thread at a time instead of taking over almost every thread on the board.
Instead it has all devolved to the absolute lowest common denominator.
/b/ (and by extension 4chan as a whole) has always been a cesspit. I’m not trying to deny that. There’s screenshots out there of it back when the post count hadn’t breached 1000 that show that it was shit even in the very very beginning. Back when it was almost exclusively m00t, W.T. Snacks, and their friends from Something Awful. That said, it used to be engaging to scroll through because you could stumble upon some legitimately good discussion. It hasn’t been worth even trying to look for good discussion on /b/ for well over a decade.
The retro videogames board was a brief shining return to quality for a few years after it was created, even managed to find, back up, and translate some things that had been lost media. The DooM threads used to be the place to be for new DooM wads. Even that board’s pretty shit now too.
All of these things are correct, but I would like to posit there was a specific era when it actually became intolerable, and that was about 2013 or so. It was a gradual process, but you noticed more and more “normal threads” getting hijacked and brigaded. Baw threads, or threads where people would post tumblr core sad images (mostly about missing ‘her’) got hijacked by incels (who said something like, “shes fucking chad bro” although the incel vocabulary had yet to be calcified.) You laugh you lose (YLYL) threads got brigaded by people “banana posting” or flooding the thread with images of a specific meme of a banana opening his peel like a trench coat and “exposing” himself to a pair of apples. It was boomer shit, but their alleged point was that YLYL was cringe.
Now, were Baw and YLYL cringe? Maybe. But they were also like, “normal” threads. Normal users would come and post normal content. YLYL threads (and their cousins, Epic threads) were how board culture was preserved, posting collages of greentext posts of particularly noteworthy threads or stories or interactions. The point wasn’t to point out cringe. It was to radicalize young male users who self identified as unlucky in love, to degrade board discourse so no one wanted to even post in “culture” threads, and to either radicalize the young and impressionable who might be receptive to Nazi messaging, and to push away those that were not. 4chan always tolerated Nazis, and there is an old proverb against it.
Moot used to get a ton of hate from the Nazis, because he actually tried to police them. I don’t know if they targeted him or just got lucky, but they had been trying to get rid of him of a while. He left after users found his girlfriend was cheating on him, and posted the photos on 4chan. months later, trump descends a golden escalator…
How could anything be better than Doomworld for new wads? That’s wild.
I used to frequent the /tg/ board, it had people making homebrew conceptual RPGs - the kind of stuff that the indie RPG scene pretends to have invented. Sorry to see the site go, but it was inevitable.
I miss /tg/. it held out longest from the /pol/ siege. Like nazis would still be there, but it was still a place where you could talk about games and be reasonably sure people wouldn’t talk about nazi shit. I lurked until maybe the first Trump election, whereas I had given up on the rest of the boards long before.
yet the rotting carcass is still around stinking
Sort of like US Democracy.
They were hacked by Soyjak https://www.soyjak.st/soy/thread/10615723.html#10615802 / https://archive.ph/fxB6N
Is that a person?
Is it me or does Soyjak use Windows?
Damn, I rarely looked at these types of website, but wtf is that. I feel like every post is dumb and worthless. Just spam.
the mysterious hacker known as
4chansoyjack.
Ah, the mysterious hacker known as 4chan.
It hit itself in confusion!
What’s the point? 4chan seems like such a low value target.
The Elon thing is possible, and there’s a screenshot in the Reddit thread that’s kinda convincing, but I’m still not bought in.
Tinfoil hat brain is wondering if there’s something in there someone’s supposed to find but 😂 🤷🏻
A bunch of chuds got angry that they were banned because they went brigading against LGBTQ+ folk.
This was the end result
Ah yes, there’s no honor amongst thieves.
i’m fairly certain there are more than likely a LOT of politicians on there with very questionable posting records who would probably be on a sex offender registry if it got out.
If they’re Republican it won’t matter.
Badge of Honor for them, probably.
For revenge
By my understanding, 4chan left themselves vulnerable which, given the circles they foster, means they were going to be compromised. No fear of reprisal or consequence for it either. Not like when attacking a major corporation or government.
For the LULZ obviously.
That Reddit thread is a very strange experience for someone not of their culture
That is all 4chan lingo. As a general rule of thumb, if it sounds like something Elon would say, it’s from 4chan.
more like very sad
Just remember that the vast majority of those users are in their mid-late 30s or even early 40s. Zoomers and even younger millennials never gave a shit about 4chan.
Maybe they didn’t care to the same degree but unfortunately incel culture was fostered in several areas, and a lot of them are younger than mid 30s.
Oh incels are a massive problem. But younger millenials and genz and the like got radicalized by reddit and twitter and the like, not 4chan. And then they just went straight to 8chan if they left their festering grounds at all.
I think my only contact with 4chan was to get JAV content and also my first contact with torrenting.
I open it periodically just to see what’s up. I regret it every time :3
the definition of Morbid curiosity is essentially what my experience w/ 4chan is
/tg/ was usually decent. Often a good source for pdfs
/tg/ ! I remember before and after they made the quests board, the one that’s basically the same as our new ‘everypostisanrpg’ comm. And the Esh-Esh raffles, she was cool. Still operating her plushies and leatherwork Etsy as far as I know.
Lemmy and 4chan do have one thing in common
Hating reddit.
Of course, they hate Reddit because they can’t use hate speech there
Reddit allows racism or sexism just fine without slurs or with slurs depending on the subreddit.
You see it mostly on the more political and gamer/incel type communities there.
there are literally subreddits with slurs in the name
Ah yes “hydrohomies” had to change after they got too popular.
Also a shady image to the point some people who have only heard of it think it‘s some deep web voodoo. They have that in common somehow.
We have voodoo? Since when
We take turns taking care of it. You’ll get your turn eventually.
You do
Do what? Remind me of the babe
its like… getting a whiff of something I haven’t felt in a long time.
lol
Question: what is the significance of /qa/, why was the board banned in the first place, and why did the hackers bring it back?
qa was my favourite 4chan board probably ever. it was a random board like /b/, but strictly SFW. so, they were the creatives of the site. the soyjak memes you see everywhere started there. they got into fights with other boards but it came to a boiling point when they raided 4chans LGBT board, and as a result qa was closed. they moved to another website. that website, or rather one of its users, then spent about a year navigating the very outdated freebsd from a decade ago running on 4chans servers until he was able to access the PHP admin panel, re-open /qa/, and then nuke all files on the server except the homepage. which itself now seems to return an SQL error.
Which site did qa migrate to?
its a website referred to as the party, but im not saying the actual name due to the fact that it regularly gets spammed with csam and other violent things of the nature, its really a lawless land and its hosted in russia. its not hard to find if you look on twitter or something. even as someone who went on qa before, i have never wanted to step foot there, its not the same.
Not interested in that other stuff, but are there any sites you recommend that are closer to the old qa?
kissu.moe is where most of the original qa migrated to, aka the people who were there before it started to become a raiding board. it even has its own version of qa there now which is really nice and they have drawing threads and talk about anime and stuff.
it’s soyjak.party
Fascinating. Live by the trolls, die by the trolls.
Well it looks like 4Chan is … [puts on shades] NoChan… YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
The hacker known as 4chan hacked himself? 😮
Who is this anonymous and why does he keep talking to himself?
Come over to Marblecake and I’ll explain.
Turns out the hacker known as 4chan barely knows how his own code.
They need to hack Reddit.
In away they did.
Yeah reddit and Lemmy are just auxiliary troll communities to the OG forums like 4chan.
Same people. Same shitty behaviour just slightly different topics and levels of trolling.
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I thought it would be a legitimate niche forum for sharing information. And reddit leaned further into trolling and bad behaviour.
A systems purpose is what it does and this platform has not shown much outside of being a place for fights and self held superiority stroking.
TL; DR I am mostly here for news links and B-Movie-Bananza cause it has some good recommendations. Not to interact or pretend this is more than the sum of its parts.
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Ah. It used to be just someone that would say something so inflammatory or provoking that it would force interaction or responses from the people witnessing it.
Like an obvious joke or quote of an earworm that it creates replies. Or sometimes something rude or just wrong on purpose. Modern bad actors adopting trolling tactics is not necessarily the same thing.
You could say trolls are like onions, they have multiple coatings.
No no, ogres are like onions.
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A definition I saw many years ago was something like a troll tricks you into feeling a certain way or doing a specific thing. Could be positive, mostly done for humour, but the ones we hear most about in the media or whatever are the upsetting ones.
Trolling is a lot harder when you’re not anonymous to other users.
People know what 4chan is. There’s no illusions about it. reddit and its derivatives are were the real trolling goes down.
Kinda inevitable after moot sold it.
Pools closed
Ok now I’m curious about the alien photo they’re talking about in the comments.
The 4chan Captcha never worked for me, so I stopped trying years ago. I used to go there to troll trolls when I was in a mood.