Are you guilty?’ said Winston.
‘Of course I’m guilty!’ cried Parsons with a servile glance at the telescreen. ‘You don’t think the Party would arrest an innocent man, do you?’ His frog-like face grew calmer, and even took on a slightly sanctimonious expression. ‘Thoughtcrime is a dreadful thing, old man,’ he said sententiously. ‘It’s insidious. It can get hold of you without your even knowing it. Do you know how it got hold of me? In my sleep! Yes, that’s a fact. There I was, working away, trying to do my bit—never knew I had any bad stuff in my mind at all. And then I started talking in my sleep. Do you know what they heard me saying?’
He sank his voice, like someone who is obliged for medical reasons to utter an obscenity.
‘“Down with Big Brother!” Yes, I said that! Said it over and over again, it seems. Between you and me, old man, I’m glad they got me before it went any further. Do you know what I’m going to say to them when I go up before the tribunal? “Thank you,” I’m going to say, “thank you for saving me before it was too late.”’
‘Who denounced you?’ said Winston.
‘It was my little daughter,’ said Parsons with a sort of doleful pride. ‘She listened at the keyhole. Heard what I was saying, and nipped off to the patrols the very next day. Pretty smart for a nipper of seven, eh? I don’t bear her any grudge for it. In fact I’m proud of her. It shows I brought her up in the right spirit, anyway.’
George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
Starting to think this is a tipping point actually. I won’t hold my breathe but there are signs.
the problem, is the people currently protesting arnt magats, its only the progressive, not everyone is on board with that yet, until the republicans are doing it to, something will change.
Lots are former maga believe it or not. Now maga tends to win through gerrymandering not popularity and tend to be more geographically isolated, so they don’t have the numbers dems do and are more stubborn, but it’s happening.
This was so obviously gonna happen with Trump back in office. But at least we saved the Palestinians by not voting for Kamala, right?
Can you stop with this? How is this helping? We need a broad coalition to fight this walking tumor.
The same broad coalition you didn’t join by not voting for kamala? How many millions of people signed up for your mutual aid fund?
You don’t represent the masses, you just think you do.
I voted for her. That doesn’t mean the grievances against her aren’t legitimate. How is this helping?
No, the grievances against her are not legitimate. You fell for a psyop. Missed the forest for the trees.
Uh huh. You’re right and everything else is a psyop. And I’m the dogmatic one. I hope you’ll at least join us when we’re fighting in the streets.
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I’ll be voting for the most progressive viable candidate. If that’s kamala or AOC or Gavin newsom, yeah we might lose, but that’s not going to stop me from vocally supporting them over some joker like Jill Stein who has literally zero chance and knows it.
Radical left wing politicians are not electable outside of small college towns. Democrats, and Americans more generally are not radically left wing. Calling for the death of America, or Israel, or any country really, is not a position that will win you a general election in this country.
MAGA troll. Anyone still trying to stir up shit about the election is likely a Trump supporter at this point.
Swing and a miss bud
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Maybe Kamala shouldn’t have tried to take over the conservatives, and instead focussed on politics that matter. But I guess that worked out really good for her and the country!
Boy am I glad that some voters left their brains at home because their little feelings got hurt by Kamala. Makes me feel real good about that outcome knowing that they showed Kamala who’s boss! /s 🤮
I think politics need to be interesting for people to vote. If the expected outcome is that everything only worsens a bit, you’ll never get people to vote for you. So by leaning right, she basically tried to appease the conservatives, but made progressives lose interest. I don’t think that anyone (or a substancial number) on the left tried to “own” her.
Hopefully there will be next elections, and hopefully there will be a party worthy of voting for it.
(Also disclaimer, I am not american, and am just objectively stating the obvious)
Well the important thing is that you found a way to blame her instead of the actual people doing the actual things.
I am not blaming her for what is happening right now, I am blaming her for leaning too far right, and not being able to win with that.
Whatever you do don’t blame the people who threw the campaign and rolled out the red carpet for where you are now. Maybe they’ll get back into power and make sure the people involved face no justice at all, so they can do it again
I think you’re a Russian agent. I just assume anyone still trying to stir that pot is a Russian agent or MAGA troll trying to stir up shit on the left.
The first concentration camps in nazi Germany opened in 1933
And Auschwitz was in Poland
True. People tend to forget the settler colonialist aspect of the nazi ideology
They mostly imprisoned political opponents first.
Hitler only died 12 years later. I recommend doing it about 12 times faster this time around.
The thing is that it took a powerful coalition of countries to actively wage war against him for years for that to happen. I am not seeing anything similar happening here.
This is all on Americans themselves.
Wait… It took the rest of the world being against Nazi Germany to stop them. You’re not seeing a powerful coalition of countries opposing the US. So… This is all on America? Not sure how you got to that last point.
Nazi Germany didn’t have a shitload of nuclear weapons.
Hey, we’re working on creating that broad coalition right now! Don’t worry, invading Canada, Mexico, Panama, Greenland, Disneyland and MacDonald’s Island should help motivate the world! If that doesn’t do it, we have plans to bomb China, Australia, Costa Rica, Maine, Disney World, Loompaland, and Imagination Land.
That’s imagination island. We want to be accurate in our statements.
Nope. There’s
terroristsHamas in Imaginationland.Oh man. My kids just corrected me on this. It is imagination land after all. Apologies for my ignorance.
Dude(ette?), with all the shit going on in the real world, it’s a minor mistake.
I guess that’s what happens when you make doomed political choices and threaten annexation while forcing economic warfare on your closest allies.
But please without dragging the whole world into war with millions killed
Most of them closed before 1935 and then were reopened but worse in 1938ish
Now that’s a spicy meme.
Lol MAGAts aren’t doing what the meme says, they’re cheering it on, because ThOSe DaMn DeMoCrAps are finally getting taken care of
I don’t see that at all. The only MAGA that I’m still connected to on Facebook hasn’t posted anything about the Abrego Garcia situation since it happened. He’s literally doing the Homer thing, and the shrubs are his other posts about the weather and stuff. He went from posting about Trump all the time to kinda pretending like he doesn’t exist.
Meanwhile, the MAGAts around my parents’ house in the middle of rural Indiana have taken down all of their Trump flags. They were already at a low ebb before the election; now there are only two houses with Trump signs up on my route to their house, and I’m pretty sure one of them is owned by an old woman who can’t walk.
This just isn’t happening on the ground. Only on Fox, as far as I can tell.
My MAGA friend just said due process is only for citizens. I stopped trying to debate with him, he’s too far gone. I’m depressed about it.
Very disappointing. How does he say he’s expected to prove that he’s a citizen without due process? I’ve been wondering.
Unconditional trust in the MAGA authorities, plus unconditional disdain for all other authorities (trumps convictions are unjust politically motivated prosecution, he did nothing wrong). He turned his brain off years ago and just lets fox news think for him.
He doesn’t actually have an answer? Even more disappointing.
“What if a socialist demonrat accused you of being a noncitizen? How would you prove them wrong?”
Correct, no answer. It just cant happen.
You mean your illegal alien friend? Better let ICE know about him!
You can ask how do you know he’s not a citizen without due process?
Couldn’t answer coherently. Comfortably safe as the in group, confident that the others deserve their punishment.
My hardcore right wing neighbors have anti-elon stickers all over one of their Teslas, but are still the same. I think Fox has them fearful of “persecution”. They highlight every act of vandalism or protest like they’re some sort of oppressed minority so that makes them afraid to speak up, or they straight up know their viewpoints are shameful. Either way I think only the margins are changing as the truth never penetrates the core of the believers.
“oppressed minority”
“silent majority”
in control of all three branches of government
The mental gymnastics, man.
That happened to a buddy in Florida before the 2020 election, people took down their signs all over. I noticed it in rural Washington as well. I guess they saw a black woman, got scared, and put them right back up.
My good friend’s parents are adamant that Trump has done nothing wrong and apparently hope he continues on the current path.
That’ll change once his cancer touches them. Mark my words.
They are pretty disconnected from the rest of the country both geographically and financially, so honestly, I doubt it.
I live in a pretty maga area and I can say that maybe the support has dwindled a tiny bit around me? I dunno it’s hard to tell. I can tell you for damn sure tho that there are still plenty of people incredibly happy with everything that’s going on. Especially with the deportations. It seems a little less with the tariffs but even then a ton of them are very happy that America is finally standing up for itself. I’m pretty convinced at this point that there is literally nothing Trump could do that they would see as a bad thing.
Yah I am getting fucking SICK of all these “owning the right” and “leopards are eating their faces” memes.
THE CONSERVATIVE ORCS ARE CHEERING.
This “engagement culture” has taught us to keep clicking on things that make us feel good, distancing us from the truth and reality.
I swear the left has almost an equally distorted picture of the real world as the right, at least the ones who spend all their days scrolling their curated feeds. We are NOT winning, we are NOT sitting here smug while the conservatives whither into the background, they are fucking in control of the world’s wealthiest, most powerful country and they are celebrating every day. The number of worried neolibs out there who lost their 401K’s or the like and are booing Republicans at town halls are a minority.
I swear this is why we lost this last election. Too many people checked out, didn’t care, figured there was no way people would vote in such an obvious crook… AND YOU NEVER CHECKED WHAT THE OTHER SIDE WAS SEEING AND DOING.
Fucking 55% of eligible voters showed up. And now we’re gonna lose it all because too many of you thought yourselves the main characters who didn’t need to make a choice.
I kept telling people that Frederick Douglas helped Lincoln’s campaign at a time when Lincoln couldn’t promise to end slavery. I got called every name in the book for suggesting that a less than perfect candidate was much better than an absolute fascist.
Related: a lot of our current problems have been festering for the last century+ since we didn’t finish the job after the civil war. If instead of helping the landowners who incited the rebellion rebuild plantations without slaves and subsidizing their production, if we ignored the financial and diplomatic repercussions and just hung the bastards and took their assets, it would have served a much stronger precedent and then maybe we wouldn’t have had organizations like Daughters of the Confederacy re-writing our textbooks for the last hundred fucking years. (My grandmother was one.)
Slavery never went away, they just became sharecroppers, which is a form of slavery.
SCOTUS ruled that sharecropping was a form of slavery in the 1960s. BTW, Clarence Thomas and Roberts want to overturn that ruling…
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We are NOT winning, we are NOT sitting here smug while the conservatives whither into the background, they are fucking in control of the world’s wealthiest, most powerful country and they are celebrating every day.
You just described my mom’s YouTube feed. Just metric fucking tons of copium. The Midas Touch has like 20 videos a day, each of them with titles like Trump BLASTED by Immigration JUDGE! or Trump suffers MAJOR LOSS and FREAKS OUT or Trump has PANICKED MELTDOWN as he meets HIS FATE in COURT!!1!
None of this is true. It’s all happy fantasy. The sky is literally falling, but these fuckwits are saying it’s ok, go have a picnic, everything is working out, and all you have to do is go look outside and see THEY’RE COMPLETELY FULL OF SHIT.
One side is setting everything on fire, while the “other” side is busting out marshmallows and graham crackers.
and are booing Republicans at town halls are a minority.
I checked the mtg one and yup people were cheering him getting removed.
It’s that the one where they tazer the minority?
I just saw the initial removal. Then she talked about how Democrats are violent, to make everyone assume he was a Democrat.
My conservative relatives on the wealthier side are upset, at least. These economic policies and Musk’s foolishness have soured them enough to question their media consumption.
They believe whatever Trump does is gospel and their news outlets convince them the same. He can do no wrong because that would shatter the reality they’ve constructed.
Satellite image from CECOT
That picture doesn’t really show anything.
Germans in 1941: 🙈 well “prisons aren’t supposed to be fun”, these grainy “photos don’t really show anything.” “There are only 241 released deaths in the camps, I’m sure everything is completely fine there”
I think they mean it’s hard to tell what the fuck is even in this picture it looks like there isn’t even 241 pixels in it
I see what appears to be a puddle of blood.
It looks like an orgy to me. This photo means nothing. CECOT needs to be shut down, but not because of this picture.
There’s only like two pixels. We need more info.
I noticed this when it was first was mentioned on conspiracy, it’s probably a scrap yard or something, if El Salvador were going to start murdering people they would probably make sure to hide it from Google maps.
Why would they hide it? Who’s going to do anything about it?
I just saw this poll (not mine and cannot verify integrity), that if accurate, would suggest Maga are loving it.
So what you’re telling me is that across the board a third to half of all Americans are disgusting pigs who deserve everything that’s coming for them?
I am sorry for the rest, but there’s nothing I can do for them except saying migration also works the other way.
Exactly. As a European it’s absolutely high time that we cut all ties with these lunatics and stop letting them into our continent!
I genuinely think that most maga just are fully uneducated about what is currently happening. Most probably don’t even know that people have been disappeared. Their bubble is so fucking densely packed with stupid, nothing real gets in
nothing is more damaging to a society than the willfully ignorant.
The hard truth is that fascists cannot be redeemed or convinced. He was quite popular among a good portion of the German population long after the war. Even into the 1950s a large portion of the population still didn’t accept Germany’s responsibility for the war. The truth is a lot of the generation that was most affected by the Nazi propaganda, the age bracket that really voted Hitler into power? Most of them never lost those Nazi ideals and kept them right until they died of old age. There’s a reason so many works of fiction in the second half of the 20th century feature groups of old Nazis working one evil scheme or another.
Please be accurate when you criticize the administration. No US citizen has been sent to El Salvador.The guy the SC told Trump to get back was a legal immigrant, and a citizen of El Salvador.Edit: Well. I’m embarrassed. I misread the meme and my brain skipped the “married to a” part.
Hey entwine, just an FYI – Kilmar Ábrego García was not a legal immigrant. He was an illegal immigrant (of course, this doesn’t mean he was charged with a crime) who was granted a protection from deportation to El Salvador by a US judge on the grounds that he would be in danger from El Salvadorean gangs. He has had a work permit since 2019.
Nevertheless, he was not granted due process and this administration is violating court orders.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/16/who-is-kilmar-abrego-garcia
Even criminals and illegal aliens are granted protection under the constitution too. Citizen or not, in the eyes of the law, they have the same (ignored) rights.
Right. Only reason I mention it is because entwine (rightly) noted we should be accurate when critizing the administration, and then accidentally inaccurately described him as a legal immigrant. Legal or not, it was a miscarriage of justice to send this man to El Salvador.
Completely agree. :)
How can you both not be a legal immigrant and also have a work permit?
Entry was unlawful, but was granted a status similar to asylum, I think.
That would make him legal, then.
Nevertheless, he was not granted due process and this administration is violating court orders.
This, I don’t care if he’s a shit bag. I know a lot of shit bags are in our country right now, some high up in government who admitted to being here illegally, does that mean we just send them to El Salvador?
Nevertheless, I misread the meme which never said he was a US citizen, so I was talking out of my ass.
I’m pretty sure they edited it when you pointed out the inaccuracy
Worth noting, though, Trump is talking about sending “homegrown criminal” to El Salvador prisons. Considering Trump does not define “criminal” as someone convicted of a crime, this is genuinely scary.
But if he sends a citizen we will totally do something about it then, right?
The courts will absolutely shake their fists furiously while the republicans in congress will sit on their thumbs while ceding all their power to the executive branch.
Democrats really have no power except to shut the government down. Hopefully they use that power in the fall.
Don’t worry, Chuck Schumer will rally enough useful tools to keep the orphan crushing machine fully lubricated with blood.
do we actually know that no US citizen has been sent? Without due process, there’s no way to confirm. Or am I missing something?
I actually misread the meme
I should’ve double-checked the meme before reposting. I’ll edit it.
Yeh, use the wording: Legal Resident
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How many have died so far on the el Salvador death camps?
The report says that 153 people died in custody after being arrested under Bukele’s year-long crusade against gangs, including 47 this year, according to the new investigation.
Wow 153 USA citizens?
You must be new here. People from other countries are still human beings.
How does that compare to deaths in American prisons?
IMO can’t compare it like that you would need a ratio. Like say they only have 200 people in the camps. That makes it a whole lot worse. If they have 5 million then having even a 1000 would be more ‘reasonable’.
Those are just the “documented” deaths.
We know that they shave their heads, number them, and make them not show their faces and treat them very similarly to another such camp
They only feed the inmates Rice, beans, a couple of veggies, etc… And yet there is a meat pile next to a small building with red stains all around it and red stained drag marks. even though they don’t use meat.
Remember they voted for the driver and we all have to be onboard for the car crash.
It’s not a car crash for them.
They just want to make the rest of the country a vile sewer like the south is.
They simply can’t process why everyone isn’t celebrating the chance to be cruel racists, it’s like people hating ice cream to them.
Agreed 100% I work around people that are Ride Or Die Trump supporters, and they are fully on board with crashing everything so as long as they get to own the Libs.
A magat would gladly allow trump to shit in their mouth if a “lib” had to smell it.
Hitler completely dismantled democracy in 53 days. Trump has been in office for 88 days.
The Weimarer Republic was a very young democracy, it existed only for 15 years and before that Germany was a monarchy. Trump is dismantling the oldest democracy at the moment
To add to what you’re saying, the Weimar republic was not a really a democracy when Hitler got in power; it was already ruled by decree, with a reactionary minority (Hindenburg, Papen, Schleicher and al) aiming to ignore parliament and preserve the nobility.
In early 1933 a German observer might have hoped the authoritarian trend was just a temporary thing and the presidential clique would have to bend to the parliament eventually, since they were continually losing support.
I don’t think the US is the oldest democracy as San Marino has been around for a long ass time.
When exactly you consider San Marino an Independent entity could be debated but def older than the US.
To be fair, that country has a population of 30K. For comparison, my town’s population is 200K. But still an interesting case nonetheless.
I think at the time they didn’t believe a republic could really work for a large expansive country and would just use it for smaller city states. Hence why Florence and Venice and San Marino were Republics but then Naples and Sicily were monarchies.
This is not how you use this meme.
I’m gonna keep saying that USA is bending over and taking it all in the GOP (grand ole pooper).
I don’t get all the misspellings these days. What’s a SOCTUS?
How hard is it to check spelling?
You can’t parse that one out?
It drives engagement.
I see so many videos with wrong “subtitles” (sorry, flashing the word as it is said is an annoying way to subtitle your videos, they’re not proper subtitles), people don’t have to proof their text anymore and it generates interaction. Stupid AF.
It’s the Supremely Official Court That’s Undermining Sanity.