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This is kind of a me-thing, but I also never liked how you’re tied to your car, if you took it anywhere. You can’t walk through the shopping street and then just take the bus home from where you are. No no, now you gotta walk back all the way to where you parked.
in some places you can* it just means you have to come back without the car to bring it back within a certain amount of time that is rarely stated.
Upvoted even though the DMV is not a company.
Literally advocating for 15 minute cities. Couldn’t get more stereotypical and Orwellian if you tried.
Poe’s law is dead and I can’t tell if this is a joke.
It’s not; that guy is a Nazi troll.
Please stop flaunting your humiliation kink in public
Orwell is when you live near a park and a grocery store
And you’re not allowed to go further than that
What do you think “15 minute city” refers to?
Since it sounds like you think it’s this
Celestini explained that the conspiracy theory behind 15-minute cities is that it’s a form of government take-over.
People are fearful of a scenario where people would have digital identifications on them and would be forced to stay within a 15-minute radius around their homes, and that if people traveled beyond those boundaries, they would be tracked and targeted in different ways.
It isn’t. No one is trying to do that.
Buddy, is that deadass what do you think a 15 minute city is?
Holy shit lmfao, I have no words
Does New York City and its transit systems not exist in your world?
Literally no one is advocating for locking people into their own 15 minute city. No one is even suggesting that everyone needs to live in one. They’re just suggesting that some people might like that option, and that it’s probably a good idea to give people the option to live in a 15 minute city.
That’s the problem with you guys. You never think about tomorrow.
Tell me, what happened during Jim Crow when they disarmed black people? In Germany when they disarmed the Jews? And now lefties still want to disarm the people. What happened to the Native Americans when millions of Europeans came in? And y’all still want to bring in millions of immigrants. I can go on, but those are the easiest examples I have.
What does any of that have to do with 15 minute cities?
Also, I guess I should ask before this gets too far… What do you think a 15 minute city is?
What do you think a ghetto is? A real ghetto?
I lived in Montreal for a decade, living near all the amenities I needed at a walking distance and I managed to do everything without owning a car. When I wanted to get out of town I rented one for the week-end.
I never felt locked in.
most of the towns all throughout human history must have been Orwellian dystopias then
What a dumb take. They didn’t have good plumbing either, should we go back to that also?
I realized this very quickly when I moved to the city. No longer had to worry about parking, gas, insurance, how to get home when i’m tired or drunk. It’s pretty great.
Having experienced both sides of the coin, living in a city came with other downsides. My bike was stolen twice, my backpack once, my basement was broken into, I didn’t know my neighbors, my car was broken into and I didn’t have any space for any kind of hobby. I even got into SOTA because I couldn’t even install a long wire antenna anywhere and the HF (and actual audio) noise levels were off the charts. Living in the boonies now with a bunch of great neighbors, I own a few hectares of forest, I’m happy to pay some money for mobility in exchange for all that.
happy to pay some money for mobility in exchange for all that.
Most of the costs are probably externalized and not paid for by you
Also good neighbors vs bad neighbors isn’t intrinsic to city vs country. You could easily have a neighbor out there that shoots guns unsafely , or feeds bears, or whatever. I had a whole DND crew here in the city that we could walk to each other’s places.
But this is kind of getting off the topic of cars aren’t the freedom people say they are.
When I got my first car, since I hadn’t driven for many years before that moment, whenever I drove, I felt like I was moving at superhuman speeds. Like, walking is slow, cycling is around 15-25km/h on average, yet driving is 50km/h and higher, on most streets where I drove.
Having a human-scaled life, means not moving at such unusual speeds, that sure, are normal in the 21st century, but common, haven’t we proven that bigger isn’t always better, faster isn’t always beneficial?
