That’s just wild. The one silver lining to T2 is that I’m not shocked by anything anymore. It’s still outrageous, but the surprise is gone.

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    I saw a billboard outside of my city yesterday saying something like “did your loved ones really die of COVID-19?” and had some “covid is a hoax” website named on it. What a fucking dark timeline we’re in.

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      I overheard a guy in 2021 say to someone that his brother said, “I just came from a funeral for a friend who died from covid.” The next thing the guy said was, "I told him, no, your friend died with covid, not from covid.

      It really upset me. I just tried to ignore him but it actually kinda ruined my day.

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    I’m just sitting here watching the end of the world

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    Trump is crazy but I still think its possible it was a lab leak. But of course everyone here is 100% confident it wasnt, so no point trying to discuss it.

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      who cares if it was a lab leak or not, a comet hitting the earth could have been sent by evil aliens, you still have to appropriately deal with the adtermath

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        who cares if it was a lab leak or not

        If gain of function experiments lead to a pandemic and millions of needless deaths, then maybe we should better control gain of function experiments.

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      As a general rule: Never accuse anyone of a serious crime unless you have evidence to back it up.

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        I think we should discuss different scenarios without having evidence. Thats how several different theories form in the first place. And then people figure out what happened.

        You are probably aware that a lot of events are explained a certain way in public, but actually occured a different way.

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    First this, then releasing 10000 pages worth of John F. Kennedy files. lol these are right out of the dictator’s handbook to public agenda manipulation. Trump can’t even do the dictator thing very well, it is such a rookie level move.

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      I would have preferred a simple 1 page faq with who did it and how was the government involved if at all.

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    Lab leak: picture of Trump. Hm, I always suspected that’s how he came into this world. Good thing they’re officially confirming it.

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    The “ANDREW CUOMO: FAILURE” at the bottom of the government site is some random shade, but I enjoy that at least. Fuck Andrew Cuomo

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      Yeah, fuck Cuomo, but a lot of the reasons for New York’s poor performance at the start of COVID were structural issues that were out of his control.

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    So… Chinese Americans (and anyone vaguely Asian looking) the next to be sent to concentration camps?

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      Sinophobia was already rampant and bipartisan.
      Deliberately fueled by the government.
      Like the embarrassing ‘spy’ balloon farce as an example.

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        Not going to make excuses for the democrats, I am saying our nazi government needs more scapegoats, and they’re back to spreading lies about them. It’s the first step like calling all immigrants ms13.

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        I feel like I’m screaming, “help” at the top of a mountain, yet nobody can hear me. I feel like almost all online interactions are false. I feel like my day to day life is shrinking from country scale to community to household scale. This is where we are divided and we don’t care for another, but only ourselves. Not out of greed, but out of perceived necessity. It’s all fake.

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          I completely understand sometimes it feels like everyone has their head buried in the sand or worse is lapping up the misinformation without a second thought, living in a post truth society is truly hell for the analytical.

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          I’m with you. Corporations have figured out how to fully monetize the internet and information in general. Knowledge and education have been paywalled. What does filter through is manipulation and brainwashing in some form.

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    But I thought conservatives said COVID was all made up and a plot by the democrats to control the populace through mask-wearing?

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      Note that mask-wearing only makes it so you can’t breathe if Democrats want you to do it for public health reasons. Mask-wearing is hunky dory if you’re doing it because you’re a Nazi who doesn’t want to be personally identified.

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        Oh sure this is like them claiming that nanograms of mercury in vaccines cause autism but they argue that companies dumping mercury into their local atmosphere, soil, and water are overburdened by liberal government regulations and shouldn’t be regulated.

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          Then in order to “cure” said autism, they pump their children with any manner of completely worthless and dangerous interventions from the same pharma companies they claim to hate.

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            Yeah I just listened to the newest Behind the Bastards about this and Robert Evans describes numerous examples of parents treating their kids like lab rats and pumping them full of expiramental drugs until they died. It’s awful shit all around.

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              Is that this week or the nightmare chelation therapy and exploding death chambers to cure ‘heavy metal toxicity’ from last week?

              The child murder episodes are rather hard to handle.

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          Well you see, there’s a simple explanation for this. When we do it, it’s good, and when you do it, it’s bad.

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    Can someone help me understand what’s going on here?

    Are they trying to throw shade on China because… they think it will help win the trade war?

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      Actually this news makes me have a conspiracy theory now.

      • Trump started trade war with china early January 2018
      • The Wuhan was studying the corona virus in the wild as usually, mostly with relax work
      • Wuhan lab start publishing about covid in mid 2018 studying different variation
      • Wuhan lab start testing mixing covid with hiv and stuff
      • Trump loses the Trade war around late 2019
      • 2019 Military World Games is happening in Wuhan October 18–27, 2019 .

      Here is my new conspiracy theory:

      • “Ordered by trump - CIA cause the leak to happen from the lab to the market to damage the Chinese economy”

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      • First report of covid patient around November 2019
      • First Cluster of patient around December 2019

      Considering how the US government has been consistent of disregards of human life I see this as realistic case of why Trump keep circling back to this.

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      So, this is wild speculation, but I’ll tell you my guess. I think it’s about TSMC, the world’s leading semiconductor manufacturer. China has, for years, been saying that Taiwan isn’t an independent country, but is instead “Chinese Taipei,” a part of China. They’ve been using this idea for years to gradually build towards an invasion of Taiwan. Taiwan, of course, does consider itself an independent nation. The US officially holds no position on this question, which is kinda bonkers; there’s this whole diplomatic dance about whether the US would defend Taiwan in the event of a Chinese invasion. The US might not care if it weren’t for TSMC, which runs the plants that produce a huge proportion of the world’s CPUs and GPUs and AI chips. All the best chip-making technology and know-how is with TSMC. It’s a major vulnerability in the US supply chain.

      China has been ramping things up in the past several years. It’s suspected that a big part of why they’re going along with the Russian invasion of Ukraine is that Russia probably promised to go along with China invading Taiwan in exchange. It’s all very sub-rosa, but there’s been so much military maneuvering and posturing and so on back and forth around Taiwan that it’s been kind of dizzying.

      This is, unfortunately, part of why China was enthusiastic about getting Trump back into the White House. Trump’s policies of isolating the US from its military allies, instigating worldwide trade chaos, and cozying up to dictators make the conditions a lot more ripe for China to make a move on Taiwan. And since the US has never been able to actually talk about Taiwan before, it’s gonna look absolutely batshit to the majority of Americans if China invades Taiwan and the US government suddenly wants to go to war against China over this, which seems like a huge risk. But since, as Trump so eloquently put it, “everything is computer,” we basically can’t stand by and let China take Taiwan without a fight.

      So he’s trying to gin up sentiment against China on his own terms to lay the groundwork for a war that seems increasingly inevitable.

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          It’s possible to have a poor opinion of the Chinese government without having a bigoted opinion about the Chinese people.

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            Possible but not common.
            Don’t tell me you haven’t seen plenty of racist comments online directed at Chinese people.
            Same for Russians or whatever country/people we’re supposed to hate.