• Detun3d
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    526 days ago

    At the moment if it comes from the US I’m not buying it. 😏

      • Detun3d
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        I’m guessing the double meaning flew right over, hence the incomplete table mentioning Tamara’s site from Oregon, USA. The thing is, I’ll need further research from other countries to consider trusting these findings, even if I’m already used to being overly cautious when purchasing hygiene products.

  • @[email protected]
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    1927 days ago

    They had to stop putting lead into fuel years, and now even lead water pipes are under threat, so they need another way to lower peoples IQs to keep them mallable.

    • @[email protected]
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      226 days ago

      Don’t worry. Chronic underfunding of education coupled with social media means we can save money on expensive lead!

    • @[email protected]
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      727 days ago

      back in my day they even leaded the wine!

      that’s where the phrase, “get the lead out”, became so popular.

      invite some friends over for dinner, break out the wine and one of the servants would say, “this wine is vinegar!” and then you’d whip them and scream, “get the lead out!”

    • ZeroOne
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      27 days ago

      The word “Docile” is better suited here

  • @[email protected]
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    526 days ago

    I pay eight dollars for what I assumed was “fancy toothpaste”. It’s expensive. Good teeth, too bad about the fucking lead poisoning though…

    Wtf!

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    127 days ago

    What the actual fuck. “Oh it’s fine. Just a little arsenic and mercury.”

    • @[email protected]
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      127 days ago

      It’s nonsense from a blogger who claims they know how to test for lead. I wouldn’t worry about it too much unless an independent lab confirms her findings. So far that hasn’t happened.

  • @[email protected]
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    7727 days ago

    Don’t worry, we’ll just cut the FDA funding and stop testing… problem goes away just like that

    • Lit
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      427 days ago

      They keep losing their stuff and brain due to lead poisoning, so they have to keep re-searching.

    • @[email protected]
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      527 days ago

      How else can the US learn how to inflict the maximum amount of pain on people it doesn’t like?

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      I mean, it depends what you’re willing to call “research”.

      The testing, conducted by Lead Safe Mama, also found concerning levels of highly toxic arsenic, mercury and cadmium in many brands.

      I’m not sure I would put this on the same level as a controlled, reproducible double-blind peer-reviewed study by Harvard and MIT published in a prestigious journal, but I’m sure it’s really close. /s

      Edit: Ok, so people argue she’s at least a little legitimate, but why the fuck can’t we use actual scientific institutions anymore? We have a scientific method for a reason. Where’s the peer review? Where’s the people reproducing her results?

      • @[email protected]
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        127 days ago

        How do you think we get to the point where a researcher can get funding to do actual peer reviewed research? In the state the USA is in they won’t until something like this gets the publics attention.

        • @[email protected]
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          527 days ago

          Part of the reason the USA has gotten to this state is because we allow unverified sensationalist slop like this to get the public’s attention and be used against them. We’ve already seen 1 bullshit study linking vaccines and autism that is STILL being widely circulated and used to this day to convince people not only that vaccines are bad but that the whole GOVERNMENT is bad. Look at the results.

          Now we’re going to convince people toothpaste is bad using the same quality of “independent research”?

          • @[email protected]
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            227 days ago

            I did not interpret this to mean toothpaste is bad. All I see is greedy corporations not doing their due diligence in making sure their product safe.

            I agree that the reason we’ve gotten to this state is due in part to sensationalist media using bad research to promote claims that get clicks/views that earn them money.

            But I don’t think that’s the same thing at all as someone paying independent labs to test consumer products for toxins.

            There are plenty of sensationalist articles about pseudo-science to get upset over. But someone who’s paying for independent testing of consumer products for heavy metals is not it.

    • @[email protected]
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      927 days ago

      Rubin said the contamination seems to lie in some ingredients added to toothpaste, including hydroxyapatite, calcium carbonate and bentonite clay.

      Several children’s toothpastes, like Dr Brown’s Baby Toothpaste, did not test positive for any metals and did not contain the ingredients in question.

  • @[email protected]
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    1526 days ago

    The findings have not been peer-reviewed and the author has been convicted of…a lot of crime.

    • whoOP
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      Peer review is for scientific papers, not lab results. If you have reason to question the lab that produced the results, then please share it.

  • @[email protected]
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    4527 days ago

    So I’m all for substances to be routinely measured for lead concentration. I wouldn’t be surprised if lead and fascism have a link.

    But, because of leaded gasoline and widespread use of lead in other products historically we cannot escape 0 lead.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if you took a plate of food from a randomized selection of restaurants, you would find lead in every meal.

    Lead is dense, and leaded gasoline absolutely fucked our planet. We know the safe level is 0.

    We cannot say that any measurement of non-zero is worse than what we can ultimately control for. We need to be measuring these things over decades, to verify the amount continues to decrease with the ultimate hope of 0 (though, that’s unlikely).

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      427 days ago

      It’s no surprise, they find lead in there. Our analytics have become crazy sensitive, we can detect the tiniest amounts of chemicals nowadays.

      That’s why it’s very important to check articles like this one for what actually was found in order to avoid uninformed sensationalizing.

      Reading through this article makes you wonder how Washington came up with their regulation for lead levels and why it differs so much from the FDA’s standards.

      Even if we know, that no amount of lead can be considered ‘safe’, we have to have a regulation, of what is allowed and what we deem acceptable. Routinely testing products against these standards of course has to happen, otherwise, they’d be pretty useless.

      • fakeaustinfloyd
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        527 days ago

        For me, the crazy takeaway of the article was just how high the acceptable level of lead is for toothpaste (the current FDA limit is 20,000ppb for fluoridated toothpaste).

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    it seems alot of themse are kids toothpaste, and SLS-free ones. they might be less regulated, because different companies may produce it, and alot of them base the manufactering in china. i also notice some of them sls-free can cause allergic reactions too.

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    327 days ago

    Seems to be a lot of kids toothpaste on that list

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      Probably because the bulk of the products tested were likely kids toothpastes.

      Lead Safe Mama community members nominate products for laboratory testing and then the LSM community uses crowd-funding (including through GoFundMe) to raise the funds to cover the costs related to testing and reporting of these nominated products. This is how the toothpaste and tooth powder products listed in the chart below were chosen for testing, and how the testing and reporting was paid for.

      • @[email protected]
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        126 days ago

        yeah, kids toothpaste is especially worrisome if it contains toxins because kids can’t exactly spit out their toothpaste until they get to a certain age. they just consume it, so kids toothpaste is supposed to be safe to consume.

    • @[email protected]
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      427 days ago

      Please stop pushing this person’s blog. Her claims have not been independently verified. It’s shameful that the guardian has amplified this nonsense without scientific proof.